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Flag This: Sarah Palin On “Death Panels”



Aug 13, 2009 13 Comments ›› Erik Wong

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Yesterday President Obama responded to my statement that Democratic health care proposals would lead to rationed care; that the sick, the elderly, and the disabled would suffer the most under such rationing; and that under such a system these “unproductive” members of society could face the prospect of government bureaucrats determining whether they deserve health care.

The President made light of these concerns. He said:

“Let me just be specific about some things that I’ve been hearing lately that we just need to dispose of here. The rumor that’s been circulating a lot lately is this idea that somehow the House of Representatives voted for death panels that will basically pull the plug on grandma because we’ve decided that we don’t, it’s too expensive to let her live anymore….It turns out that I guess this arose out of a provision in one of the House bills that allowed Medicare to reimburse people for consultations about end-of-life care, setting up living wills, the availability of hospice, etc. So the intention of the members of Congress was to give people more information so that they could handle issues of end-of-life care when they’re ready on their own terms. It wasn’t forcing anybody to do anything.” [1]

The provision that President Obama refers to is Section 1233 of HR 3200, entitled “Advance Care Planning Consultation.” [2] With all due respect, it’s misleading for the President to describe this section as an entirely voluntary provision that simply increases the information offered to Medicare recipients. The issue is the context in which that information is provided and the coercive effect these consultations will have in that context.

Section 1233 authorizes advanced care planning consultations for senior citizens on Medicare every five years, and more often “if there is a significant change in the health condition of the individual … or upon admission to a skilled nursing facility, a long-term care facility… or a hospice program.” [3] During those consultations, practitioners must explain “the continuum of end-of-life services and supports available, including palliative care and hospice,” and the government benefits available to pay for such services. [4]

Now put this in context. These consultations are authorized whenever a Medicare recipient’s health changes significantly or when they enter a nursing home, and they are part of a bill whose stated purpose is “to reduce the growth in health care spending.” [5] Is it any wonder that senior citizens might view such consultations as attempts to convince them to help reduce health care costs by accepting minimal end-of-life care? As Charles Lane notes in the Washington Post, Section 1233 “addresses compassionate goals in disconcerting proximity to fiscal ones…. If it’s all about obviating suffering, emotional or physical, what’s it doing in a measure to “bend the curve” on health-care costs?” [6]

As Lane also points out:

Though not mandatory, as some on the right have claimed, the consultations envisioned in Section 1233 aren’t quite “purely voluntary,” as Rep. Sander M. Levin (D-Mich.) asserts. To me, “purely voluntary” means “not unless the patient requests one.” Section 1233, however, lets doctors initiate the chat and gives them an incentive — money — to do so. Indeed, that’s an incentive to insist.

Patients may refuse without penalty, but many will bow to white-coated authority. Once they’re in the meeting, the bill does permit “formulation” of a plug-pulling order right then and there. So when Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D-Ore.) denies that Section 1233 would “place senior citizens in situations where they feel pressured to sign end-of-life directives that they would not otherwise sign,” I don’t think he’s being realistic. [7]

Even columnist Eugene Robinson, a self-described “true believer” who “will almost certainly support” “whatever reform package finally emerges”, agrees that “If the government says it has to control health-care costs and then offers to pay doctors to give advice about hospice care, citizens are not delusional to conclude that the goal is to reduce end-of-life spending.” [8]

So are these usually friendly pundits wrong? Is this all just a “rumor” to be “disposed of”, as President Obama says? Not according to Democratic New York State Senator Ruben Diaz, Chairman of the New York State Senate Aging Committee, who writes:

Section 1233 of House Resolution 3200 puts our senior citizens on a slippery slope and may diminish respect for the inherent dignity of each of their lives…. It is egregious to consider that any senior citizen … should be placed in a situation where he or she would feel pressured to save the government money by dying a little sooner than he or she otherwise would, be required to be counseled about the supposed benefits of killing oneself, or be encouraged to sign any end of life directives that they would not otherwise sign. [9]

Of course, it’s not just this one provision that presents a problem. My original comments concerned statements made by Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, a health policy advisor to President Obama and the brother of the President’s chief of staff. Dr. Emanuel has written that some medical services should not be guaranteed to those “who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens….An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia.” [10] Dr. Emanuel has also advocated basing medical decisions on a system which “produces a priority curve on which individuals aged between roughly 15 and 40 years get the most chance, whereas the youngest and oldest people get chances that are attenuated.” [11]

President Obama can try to gloss over the effects of government authorized end-of-life consultations, but the views of one of his top health care advisors are clear enough. It’s all just more evidence that the Democratic legislative proposals will lead to health care rationing, and more evidence that the top-down plans of government bureaucrats will never result in real health care reform.

[1] See http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/08/president-obama-addresses-sarah-palin-death-panels-wild-representations.html.
[2] See http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/111/pdf/publications/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf
[3] See HR 3200 sec. 1233 (hhh)(1); Sec. 1233 (hhh)(3)(B)(1), above.
[4] See HR 3200 sec. 1233 (hhh)(1)(E), above.
[5] See http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/111/pdf/publications/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf
[6] See http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/07/AR2009080703043.html].
[7] Id.
[8] See http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/10/AR2009081002455.html].
[9] See http://www.nysenate.gov/press-release/letter-congressman-henry-waxman-re-section-1233-hr-3200.
[10] See http://www.ncpa.org/pdfs/Where_Civic_Republicanism_and_Deliberative_Democracy_Meet.pdf
[11] See http://www.scribd.com/doc/18280675/Principles-for-Allocation-of-Scarce-Medical-Interventions.


  • Barry Goldwater

    :mad: German National Socialism started the same way! No to Obo-Hitler!Down with the Brown Reich!

  • Scoot

    Off subject: Shop at Whole Foods, libbies are boycotting them for not supporting Obamacare.

    http://www.americablog.com/2009/08/whole-foods-comes-out-against-health.html

    “The CEO of Whole Foods, John Mackey, just penned an opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal. It sounds like something written by Dick Armey with the help of Sarah Palin and the teabag brigade. I am absolutely shocked. Joe, an avid Whole Foods shopper, up until this morning, is absolutely devastated.

    Read this opinion piece. It’s not just someone who disagrees with President Obama about the details of health care reform. It reads like someone who is a conservative Republican activist. I’d highly suggest you share this article with your progressive friends who, like Joe and me, have for far too long been under the mistaken assumption that Whole Foods was a “good” company. Apparently they’re one of the worst out there. Not just agnostic on doing good, but affirmatively trying to stop good from happening.

    When you go to Whole Foods you are bankrolling the conservative Republican effort to kill health care reform and to label Democratic presidents and Democratic values “socialist.” The CEO of Whole Foods thinks you’re a socialist. It’s time to stop giving him your money.”

    • unkaglen

      Guess I’ll be shoping there…… :lol: :beer:

  • lottie

    So we are just supposed to just get in line and take it and say nothing because its good for the government health care and :arrow: because it will save money!! :gun: I think if this is so good why doesnt the jocker and family also have this plan. I think all our elected should stand in line for yhis flu shot first. We the people will select the viles from those planned for us. Then wait a few days and see how they are and then we might, I say might trust them. I personaly will never trust another politicion any further than the wites of there eyes so I can make sure I will be in the distance to…… you get the picture?

  • bill-tb

    So now the congressional clunkers say they have taken out the death panels that just two days ago Obama said wasn’t there.

    Does anybody trust their congressional clunker to do what is right by the people or do what is right for themselves. Make no mistake about it, the inhabitants of the Walled city of WDC care only about their spot in the politburo above all else. It’s all about them.

  • josephus

    Actually, the Supreme One responded using his bevvy of paid and trumped up media outlets…like oh…the formerly reliable ASS-ociated Press.

    Nice whole story with their denial of the death panels.

    Are you getting tired yet of being treated and dimissed like a bunch of Rosewell UFO nut-jobs ON EVERY SUBJECT?

    Joe Public: There are death panels.
    Gov’t: No, it’s a weather balloon!

    • Scoot

      “Joe Public: There are death panels.
      Gov’t: No, it’s a weather balloon!”

      AWESOME analogy! :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

  • Stevo

    lottie Aug 11

    Your statement is dead on….Bless You…

  • Cotton B
  • Ernest T. Bass

    Damn she’s fine :oops:

  • Jon

    I’m off to Whole Foods, not that I need anything in particular. I’m boycotting GE products for comparable reasons the libs are staying away from Whole Foods, their unabashed worship of the Zero. I’m thinking the Whole Foods shopping experience should be more enjoyable these days.

  • Pamela

    Americans now is the time to stand up for the most important right we have……the RIGHT TO LIVE. The dems want to confuse those not medically savie in the terms and lingo of medicine. The dems want you to believe a “death panel” such as rebs are calling them are nothing more than making sure everyone has a DNR or living will…well thats mandatory in Hospitals everywhere….the “death panel” is when grandpa comes in with chest pain at age 72 with anginia…the first choice from death panel will be do we give him a cardiac catherization to look for blockages($20,000 to $60,000) or give him nitro glycerin pills for $20. Well the death panel will say hes 72 let deny the cath and approve the nitroglycerin…..a week later grandpa is back at hospital with chest pain and having a heart attack (open heart surgery can start around $100,000)now instead off having those blockages opened with cath grandpa will die from a major heart attack….because the government cannot afford to give every person in this country that kind of health care…..now what happens the way things are now….grandpa comes in and gets cardiac cath ,meds, and2 day hosp stay…EVEN IF HE DOESNT HAVE INSURANCE BY LAW HE HAS TO GET CARE