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“It Makes No Sense:” Former Democratic Senator Calls Cap And Trade Bill “Out Of Control”



Aug 18, 2009 6 Comments ›› Erik Wong

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Bloomberg:

Aug. 18 — Cap-and-trade legislation to limit U.S. carbon dioxide emissions has “gotten out of control” and needs to be scaled back in Congress, said former Democratic Senator Timothy Wirth.

“The Republicans are right — it’s a cap-and-tax bill,” Wirth, a climate-change negotiator during President Bill Clinton’s administration, said in an Aug. 14 interview. “That’s what it is because they are raising revenue to do all sorts of things, especially to take care of the coal industry, and it makes no sense.”

A system to cap carbon emissions and then create a market for the trading of pollution allowances is the centerpiece of President Barack Obama’s proposal to fight global warming. Wirth, who helped craft an emissions-trading market two decades ago that cut sulfur-dioxide pollution causing acid rain, is among Democrats questioning House-passed legislation set to be taken up next month in the Senate.

“I’m not critical of cap-and-trade,” said Wirth, head of the UN Foundation, a philanthropy established in 1998 with $1 billion from Ted Turner, founder of the CNN cable network. “But it has to be used in a targeted and disciplined way, and what has happened is it’s gotten out of control.”

Wirth, who represented Colorado in the Senate, says the House-passed plan is “too broad across the economy.” Instead of capping carbon pollution generally, the measure should focus solely on coal-fired power plants, he said.

The House of Representatives passed its climate bill in June on a 219-212 vote. House Democrats won passage over the opposition of most Republicans by giving away 85 percent of the initial pollution allowances to energy producers and users.

‘Focus on Utilities’

Wirth also takes issue with auctioning permits as a way to generate federal revenue. Obama’s original plan called for auctioning all the permits to bring in about $650 billion by 2019, much of it for a middle-class tax cut.

“Just focus on the utilities and don’t use it as a revenue-raiser,” Wirth said. The trading permits will become “a narcotic for aging power plants.”

The measure faces more hurdles in the Senate, where regional and philosophical differences over its provisions divide Democrats.

The legislation would require 60 votes in the 100-member Senate. Most Republicans have said they oppose the cap-and-trade measure, and at least 15 of the Senate’s 60-member Democratic majority have said the House-passed version would hurt the economy and needs to be revamped to win their support.

Critics such as billionaire investor Warren Buffett say cap-and-trade would amount to a regressive tax and burden businesses and consumers.

Renewable Energy

Wirth says concentrating solely on a cap-and-trade system for power utilities, without an auction, would help resolve such concerns.

“The current cap-and-trade is just too much,” he said.

Four Democratic lawmakers have said the Senate should scrap attempts to pass the cap-and-trade provisions of the legislation this year, and focus instead on a narrower bill requiring the use of renewable energy. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat, said he is confident an energy bill will be passed this year including climate provisions.

To win passage, the Senate legislation must include more agriculture-related provisions, a “better package” for nuclear power, a carbon-emissions standard for new power utilities, and a strong “natural gas piece,” Wirth said.

The former lawmaker says he and others are working “slowly but surely” to persuade lawmakers to alter the legislation, an effort that would fail “without the help of industry.”

EPA Awaits

The Senate remains under pressure to pass a cap-and-trade bill because failure to act would leave regulation of carbon emissions in the hands of the Environmental Protection Agency, which has asserted its right to do so, according to Nikki Roy, who monitors Congress for the Pew Center on Global Climate Change in Arlington, Virginia.

EPA regulations would trigger a raft of lawsuits, “delay regulatory certainty” for businesses and postpone the unleashing of low-emissions energy technology needed for a new, carbon-constrained world, he said.

“If you are a company and you want to build a plant, you are on thin ice until we get this law,” Roy said.


  • Sully

    Tim Wirth has always been a UN shithead. No news here.

  • RexRedbone

    Lets add a few more mill stones around the Jokers neck so he sinks faster

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/08/obama_to_spend_1_billion_to_fu.htmlAugust 18, 2009
    Obama to spend $1 billion to fund offshore drilling – for Brazil
    Rick Moran
    Just when you think Obama has made the dumbest move of his presidency, he proves once again that there is no limit to his stupidity.

    The Wall Street Journal is incredulous:

    The U.S. is going to lend billions of dollars to Brazil’s state-owned oil company, Petrobras, to finance exploration of the huge offshore discovery in Brazil’s Tupi oil field in the Santos Basin near Rio de Janeiro. Brazil’s planning minister confirmed that White House National Security Adviser James Jones met this month with Brazilian officials to talk about the loan.

    The U.S. Export-Import Bank tells us it has issued a “preliminary commitment” letter to Petrobras in the amount of $2 billion and has discussed with Brazil the possibility of increasing that amount. Ex-Im Bank says it has not decided whether the money will come in the form of a direct loan or loan guarantees. Either way, this corporate foreign aid may strike some readers as odd, given that the U.S. Treasury seems desperate for cash and Petrobras is one of the largest corporations in the Americas.

    But look on the bright side. If President Obama has embraced offshore drilling in Brazil, why not in the old U.S.A.? The land of the sorta free and the home of the heavily indebted has enormous offshore oil deposits, and last year ahead of the November elections, with gasoline at $4 a gallon, Congress let a ban on offshore drilling expire.

    Obama is actually going to go ahead with additional oil leases for the Gulf of Mexico. But as the Journal points out, there is as much oil along our east and west coasts as the oil field in Brazil our president is financing.

    But carbon is evil and we emit too much of it. Better to let Americans pay through the nose for foreign oil than exploit any of our own fields and have one additional molecule of CO2 waft up into the atmosphere.

    To quote the great philosopher Bugs Bunny: “What a Maroon.”

    • Sully

      The # is $2 billion and it’s a payoff to George Soros, a MAJOR ‘investor’ in Petrobras. Probably to keep Soros from trashing the dollar in currency markets.
      There’s no ‘valid’ reason to finance oil drilling in Brazil.
      And where did Barry X get the dough for this payola?

  • Reloader449

    “EPA Awaits

    The Senate remains under pressure to pass a cap-and-trade bill because failure to act would leave regulation of carbon emissions in the hands of the Environmental Protection Agency, which has asserted its right to do so.”

    Its RIGHT to do so? Its RIGHT to take action? Its RIGHT to prosecute industries in the name of the federal gov’t?

    Government has no rights. The EPA should be shut down for being blatantly anti-American and entirely unconstitutional.

  • MustangSandy

    Any expenditures must be approved by congress. What bill did he hide this in?

    • Sully

      Short story? Misappropriation of the funds of The U.S. Export/Import Bank.

      Barry and Soror are financing Brazilian oil exploration yet Barry intends to slap oil from the Gulf of Mexico with a 13% ‘excise tax’.

      Marxist thugs.