Beck: McCain Would’ve Been Worse Than Obama

September 21st, 2009 (35) Posted By Erik Wong.


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  • Professor Bill

    I used to like Beck….

    • mike3481

      McCain’s political decision making ability is based on the Naval Academy’s Honor Code.

      In other words, if McCain thinks it’s the honorable thing to do, then that’s what he does, whether or not it’s good for the country or the world.

      What does he think is honorable?

      That’s the problem, no one knows, not even McCain knows until the situation’s smacking him in the face.

      He’s totally unpredictable.

      Look back at McCain’s blunders in the Senate and look at them through the filter I described above and it will go a long way towards explaining his actions.

  • DTOM

    Well, the march towards socialism and big government would have continued under McCain.

    He supported the first bailout just like Obama.
    He supports amnesty just like Obama.
    He supports expansion of government health programs that are unconstitutional and unaffordable (see Medicare Part D) just like Obama.

    If he were president now, we would be discussing his health care bill. And he would find a “compromise” with the dems that would continue the march towards complete government run health care.

    And many republicans would go along with it because of his party.

    This is why I told my republican friends (before the election) that is would be better if Obama won.

    The march toward socialism would continue under either one, but conservatives would be much more likely to rally against a democrat than a republican.

    Unfortunately, too many people still put party before principles.

    • saepe expertus

      Your are correct in your assessment.
      “Well, the march towards socialism and big government would have continued under McCain.” At a slower pace perhaps, but it would have no doubt continued. We have been moving in that direction for 6 or 7 decades. We are awake now. Perhaps we can end it. It will be difficult. We may fail. Our liberty and our posterity depend on our success.

  • Phil Byler

    I don’t agree with Beck and I don’t agree with DTOM. In fact, I think both are about as wrong as wrong can be. Obama is a radical socialist who is appeasement minded in foreign policy. McCain was and is a pro-life fiscal conservative and foreign policy hawk who was and is supremely knowledgeable in foreign policy, military matters and national security.

    McCain, like Dick Cheney, supported the first bailout because it was the Bush Administration bailout and they were both told that the financial system would fail without that bailout. But thereafter McCain opposed all bailouts, beginning with the vote on the second release of TARP monies while Bush was still President. McCain voted against all Obama bailouts and voted against Obama massive deficit spending, calling it generational theft.

    McCain, since September 2007, has supported law enforcement first in immigration matters. He says he never supported amnesty, as the immigration bill that Bush and he supported was not intended to provide amnesty given the law enforcement provisions. What Obama supports in contrast is overt radical amnesty.

    McCain flatly opposes ObamaCare. McCain’s health care position in the 2008 Presidential race was the most conservative, free market oriented appproach of any in either party. If McCain were President, we would NOT be discussing a health care bill, unless it would be a proposal to provide tax cuts or insurance across state lines. What McCain promised quite differently was a freeze on federal spending — no room in there for a massive health care program.

    If McCain were President, the Supreme Court nominee would have been a conservative jurist instead of liberal Sotomayer (whom McCain voted against); the State Department legal advisor would not be an advocate of transnationalism (which is dangerous stuff); the Attorney General would not be destroying the CIA; the HHS Secretary would be pro-life instead of a pro-abortion zealot.

    Obaam operates with a history of being a community organizer and a narcisstic cult of personality. McCain, a military man who put his life in harm’s way as a Navy combat pilot and who endured 5 1/2 years of imprisonment at the hands of the North Vietnamese, spoke of being President with a servant’s heart.

    If McCain were President, we would have a very capable Commander in Chief instead of the dangerously incompetent in Obama. Neither Beck nor DTOM mention foreign policy, military matters and national security; yet those subjects are critical to the nation. To argue that McCain would have been worse than Obama requires consideration of how with respect to foreign policy, military matters and national security, we are beter off with Obama; but only a complete and utter fool would make that argument.

    The nation screwed up badly last November. You can disagree with McCain on certain issues, but to confuse any such disagreement with how bad Obama is, is just nuts.

    • saepe expertus

      “The nation screwed up badly last November. You can disagree with McCain on certain issues, but to confuse any such disagreement with how bad Obama is, is just nuts.” Yes, the nation screwed up badly last November. I am not a fan of Senator McCain but you analysis is correct nonetheless. He is a good man and he would have made a good President. Both you and DTOM have great points, and are both right in important aspects. But now that we have what we have, let’s concentrate on getting it the hell out of our body politic before it kills us all.

  • dacoelec

    I think what Beck is pointing out is that BO’s overreaching is a distinct plus for the GOP and that McCain (if history is any guide) would have spent even more time than Bush did in trying to include libtards in his governing. Which would have been very detrimental to the GOP.

    • TerryTate

      You are right.

      McCain would have put us all in the pot and slowly cooked us up.

  • Elizabeth G

    DTOM is correct and there’s more. Remember the McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Reform? http://www.nrapvf.org/News/Article.aspx?ID=60 ?
    Basically sttempting to “muzzle your voice concerning critical national issues” before elections. Critical issues like 2nd Amendment rights.

    McCain said during the campaign that obama is a nice fellow…and how about his goofy daughter???

    He might not have the extreme agenda as obama and company but he’s at least a socialist and bends in the wind to get along…

    • Phil Byler

      No, Elizabeth G, McCain is not a socialist. His voting record McCain’s voting record this year is conservative and as good as any. McCain has voted AGAINST every Obama bailout bill. McCain has voted AGAINST every Obama deficit spending bill, denouncing the multi-trillion dollar deficit spending as “generational theft,” a phrase thereafter used by Sean Hannity and even lately by Rush Limbaugh. McCain has voted AGAINST the confirmations of tax cheat Geithner, radical pro-abortion advocate Sebellius, leftist Kagan and transnational legal theorist Koh to their respective positions in the Obama Administration. McCain voted AGAINST the confirmation of Sotomayer to the U.S. Supreme Court. McCain has announced he is opposed to Obama’s cap and trade bill and adamantly opposed to ObamaCare.

      McCain is, however, old fashioned; the old fashioned way was to try to say something nice about the other fellow. Saying that Obama is a nice fellow is no endorsement under that creed.

      As for judging McCain based on his daughter Megan, that is no more sensible than judging Ronald Reagan based on his daughter. At least Megan describes herself as a Republican. But if you are goiing to judge McCain based on his kids, I then need to point out that McCain has two military sons, one a Marine who has served several tours of duty in Iraq and the other a recent graduate of the Naval Academy.

    • fas1776

      McCain is voting against Obama,because he is pissed and he wanted to be the Dictator,McCain was for Cap & Trade he is against Fair Tax and He wants to keep the IRS,I don’t care how Conservative McCain claims to be now,he is full of it and he threw the Election,as for being old fashion,the old fashion way is to stand up don’t cower and say exactly what you mean,this be nice BS is recent,My Father told me there used to be fist fights on the Senate floor,now we have a bunch of pansies,so lets go back to the old fashion way.Being nice has got in this mess.

    • Phil Byler

      No, fas1776, McCain is not voting against Obama because he is pissed, but because Obama’s socialist agenda is against what McCain truly believes. McCain has always been a fiscal conservative.

      As for cap and trade, McCain is flatly opposed to Obama’s cap and trade. Last year’s much, much more limited cap and trade, supported by many Republicans, is what you are presuambly referring to; it is not the same at all as what Obama is seeking.

      McCain did not throw the election. (You might want to consider the inconsistency between sayng McCain is pissed because he lost and saying McCain deliberately lost the election.) McCain did unwisely pull some punches, but in fairness, 2008 was a bad year for Republicans due to the financial “crisis,” the Bush bailout, Bush upopularity (unfair though it was), Obama money, absurd pro-Obama media bias and demographic changes that favored Democrats.

    • fas1776

      McCain & Lieberman wrote a whacked out green bill,we do not need any kind of green BS,as for Cap & Trade it is not new they have been trying to pass it since 1989,Union 76 & Sunoco started crushing Classic cars in 1989 for Carbon Credits.As I said before McCain is FOS and we do not need him on our side,he has been a thorn in the side the Republican Party far too long,I hope he gets voted out.

  • Crowley

    DAMN STRAIGHT PHIL!!

  • Sully

    That’s completely ridiculous but Beck also naively believes that the partisan divide between Progressivism and… well, the rest of America is reconcilable.
    But he has no clue how…
    An ‘election’ ain’t a cure for the Marxist virus Barry and his ilk carry. And Van Jones ain’t gone away.

    It seems Beck is fond of saying ‘This isn’t a Republican or Democrat issue’.
    No… to Beck it’s a Libertarian issue.

  • POD1

    Did Beck just jump the shark?

    • Double Tap

      Yup. I think that the 9/12 rally was the shark. Beck will slowly slide into desperation and oblivion unless he can figure out how to keep the people interested in his agenda.

      I hear a lot of grumbling from the local 9/12 groups that the lack of real direction from the Beck project on what to “DO” to get the country back on track has them (us) extremely frustrated.

      Many made the trek to DC and felt that it was all for nothing. 2 million people (give or take) and they were summarily ignored by the media, congress and pretty much everyone – and absolutely nothing was accomplished. They are calling, yelling, going to town halls, protesting, sending letters and they are simply being ignored. Their momentum is fading as we speak, sadly. I pray that they have enough to at least make an impact in the ’10 elections.

  • killzcar

    mccain better get beat in his next election, we do not need any more liberal, but it makes me feel good repukelicans. they all need to go to the gallows. mccain is a socialist, just look at the asses he has kissed in the last 4 years. fucking sad. bolton-cheney 2012.

  • lastconservativeblackmanonearth

    McCain is a former POW. With that exception, I find little to like about him … just like obama, he’s a proponent of ‘gangsterism’ himself (“gang of this and that …”)

    Gang members override established rules and protocols. so with that in mind, there’s no daylight between himself and Bam.

    I’m not sure if the country would be worse off under McCain, but the GOP would have been toast.

    • lastconservativeblackmanonearth

      … and one more thing: at this point, I’ll continue to ‘stick my neck out for Beck’ … he’s a good and honorable man. he’s going where few men dare to tread. he’s a trailblazer. if you’re anything near a Constitutionalist, then he deserves your support.

    • NMPatriot

      Agreed, having Obama in office is a boon for the GOP. People are actually paying attention to the issues and getting informed and organized. I am appreciative of McCains service to our country, however, I do not care for him as a politician. IMHO, I think the GOP would have suffered a trmendous ammount of damage if he was elected.

      Remember, Beck is in the business of entertainment, however I do think that he is sincere and honest man. He is one of the few people in the biz who is addressing Political corruption and the Communist agenda of Obama.

      NMP

  • Tom in CO

    I hope everyone that didn’t vote for mccain are fucking happy right now.

    • fas1776

      If McCain won the election we would be going through the same BS,we would have went back to cruise control because the President has an R after his name,and the loss of Freedom would still continue.The fact that Obama won,and he is moving fast has brought a lot of people together,even Democrats are seeing how bad Obama is and we are saying enough with the BS.

  • killczar

    i voted for mccfuckup. but i believe the right has been galvenized by obongos direction. that would not have happened with mccfuckup. and he would be mr.nice guy, give them this and give them that.

  • MinneSoCold

    Beck just had one of his “drama queen” moments. Don’t believe he really feels that way, maybe he does. The fact is Beck is wrong. McCain wasn’t my choice, but I supported his as the opposing candidate to Obongo. It would be a much slower march toward bigger government with McCain, but far from the socialistic, anti-capitalism movement we’re experiencing now. I also believe we wouldn’t have the corruption and Constitutional disrespect we’re seeing from this administration. Lastly, a libtard would have not made it to the SCotUS.

    Beck is right on many things and a patriot, but he is dead wrong on this one. I wonder if he was punking Katie and the libtard media?

  • GROUNDWIZARD

    mccain just would of been a slower bleed on our nation, just like others have posted before, mccain-feingold, higer taxes during bush, bailouts and latest on the list along with Democrats…Update: Here are the ignominious ACORN sex ring enablers….
    Burris (D-IL)
    Casey (D-PA)
    Durbin (D-IL)
    Gillibrand (D-NY)
    Leahy (D-VT)
    Sanders (I-VT)
    Whitehouse (D-RI)
    Full roll call vote here. 9 not voting…
    Burr (R-NC)
    Byrd (D-WV)
    Coburn (R-OK)
    Graham (R-SC)
    Gregg (R-NH)
    Hutchison (R-TX)
    McCain (R-AZ)
    Mikulski (D-MD)
    Vitter (R-LA)
    ***
    Here’s a reminder of why McCain is such a flakeout on ACORN

    • Citizen K

      You are definitely wrong on Vitter!!!

      Vitter has tried to get ACORN off the government payroll before. He does not have to prove himself on one vote that he missed.

      And Coburn? He is another very conservative fellow.

  • mikeindallas

    Beck is right as usual

    • Phil Byler

      Sorry, but I really think Beck is wrong on this one. See my 9/21 7:18 PM post.

  • Rudemeister

    Some political parties like the Whigs needed to go extinct. I think there are 2 big parties that out to join the march to extinction right now. Both Dems and the GOP. A pox on both of their houses. Maybe we should just have 2 parties now called the Patriot party and the Internationalist Party. I think Pat should start the Patriot Party.

  • ALPHA

    I don’t agree with Beck on Mac being worse but if it takes the miserable failure of Obama to finally “bottom out” on the way elected officials operate and what we as citizens tolerate from them, perhaps this is the price Americans have to pay. Average Americans and those who paid no attention to governmental affairs are beginning to have awareness on a level not seen in recent memory. Lots of folks are finally saying “enough is enough” and 2010 promises to be the first stage of cleansing. Having to bear the burden of a full blown fraud like Obama just may be the impetus for real change unlike this road to ruin we are being taken on.

  • More than Duty

    McCain / Obama serve the same Elites. The Democrats and a good portion of the Republican party should just enact their Dicatorship allready.

  • Double Tap

    Remember Patriots… Soros funded both McCain and The Joker because he knew that McCain would be easily and soundly beaten by The Joker. McCain simply is too much of a weenie middle-of-the-road pussy politician to be effective at anything.

    I say…. Joe Arpaio for president!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1tfIKUZ0fY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O88pHAcZnGU

    How about Palin/Arpaio in 2012?

  • Chuck O

    Damn right I didn’t vote for McCain. What some don’t realize is this-constantly voting for the lesser of two evils is what got us where we are today. Golly gee. Let me vote for someone based upon what letter trails their name. Give me a break. Here’s a concept that works: find out where they stand on the issues then make your decision based upon that. Obama vs. McCain. Those two ass clowns had to campaign for roughly two years for a four year job. Why? Because there is nothing that separates them from the pack. Nothing to make them stand out as something truly better and genuine. You can show love to McCain all day long if you choose but the fact is he runs to the left every chance he gets. Stinking RINOs are the death of the GOP. Sure I’d like to think he might have picked a true conservative for the Supreme Court but chances are he would have caved to the left. If he loves them so much, he is free to join them just like Arlen. I won’t lose sleep over it.