You Have The Right To An Attorney: Afghani Prisoners Allowed To Challenge Detentions

September 13th, 2009 (17) Posted By Erik Wong.

Afghanistan Sept 11

WASHINGTON – The Pentagon has begun putting into place a new program under which hundreds of prisoners being held by the military in Afghanistan will be given the right to challenge their detentions, a defense official said Sunday.

Prisoners at Bagram military base are all to be given a U.S. military official to serve as their personal representative and a chance to go before new Detainee Review Boards, to have their cases considered, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to be able to discuss a program that has not been formally announced.

The initiative amounts to the first time prisoners will be able to call witnesses and submit evidence in their defense. There are some 600 detainees at the facility, some who have been held for up to six years.

An order creating the review boards was signed in July by Deputy Defense Secretary William Lynn. Some military officers serving in Afghanistan have already been assigned to the boards and some who will serve as personal representatives have already been identified, the official said. He declined to say whether any proceedings have already been held.

The guidelines came to light as the Obama administration is reviewing Bush-era detention policies and determining where to make changes.

The proposed rules were given to Congress in mid-July for a 60 day review, according to The Washington Post and New York Times, which reported on the new program in stories late Saturday night on the Web.

Under the rules, the military-assigned representatives, though not a lawyer, are charged with gathering evidence and calling witnesses on behalf of the prisoners.

That process is similar to the one used for detainees at the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Unlike those prisoners, the Bagram detainees have had no means to challenge their detentions or to hear allegations against them. But the official said the initiative is more like a system used in Iraq than in Guantanamo. In Iraq, authorities used review boards to help manage the prisoner population and reduce it by distinguishing which detainees posed the greatest threat and which could be rehabilitated and released.

Prisoners at Bagram have been refusing privileges like recreation time and family visits arranged by the International Committee of the Red Cross to protest their lack of legal rights since July, according to U.S. military and humanitarian officials.

Human rights campaigners have argued that the prisoners should be given the same rights as those at Guantanamo, but the U.S. military argues that Bagram detainees should be treated differently because they are being held in an active theater of war.

Their status is the subject of lawsuits in the United States. A federal judge ruled in April that several Bagram detainees have the right to challenge their detention in U.S. courts, and the Obama administration has asked a federal appeals court to overturn the decision.

Ramzi Kassem, a law professor at City University of New York and attorney for one of those Bagram detainees, said the move is just “window dressing.”

“The whole thing was meant to pull the wool over the eyes of the judicial system,” he told The Associated Press late Saturday, responding to the newspaper reports. “These changes don’t come anywhere near an adequate substitute for a real review.”

Kassem said the changes appear to mean the appointment of a military representative to help guide a detainee’s case through a review process. The representative would not be bound by confidentiality, thus making this system similar to one already rejected by the Supreme Court in 2008.

“These improvements are really just smoke and mirrors,” Kassem said.

Kassem represents Amin al Bakri, a Yemeni national who was taken to Bagram after being detained in Thailand in 2002.

The American Civil Liberties Union said the development was encouraging, but also was concerned about the level of secrecy that the group said surrounds Bagram.

“The public remains uninformed of basic facts such as who is imprisoned there, how long they have been held, where they were captured and on what grounds they are being subjected to indefinite detention,” said Melissa Goodman, staff attorney with the ACLU National Security Project.

She also expressed disappointed at the administration’s “continued efforts to block Bagram prisoners’ access to U.S. courts.”

Efforts to get responses from administration and military officials were not immediately successful.

(AP)

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  • saepe expertus

    “Under the rules, the military-assigned representatives, though not a lawyer, are charged with gathering evidence and calling witnesses on behalf of the prisoners.”
    =================================
    Why don’t we do what the Soviets used to do during WWII – Have two commanders of a unit in the field – one to call the tactical shots and the other to be the “political commizar” to ensure that actions taken could be vetted as to their “political ramifications”.
    We could assign the equivilent of a…oh I don’t know…a military paralegal…to accompany each mission whose job it would be the “gathering [of]evidence and calling witnesses on behalf of the prisoners.” They could be linked directly back to the deploying JAG unit or employing civilian Attorney.

    I don’t think that words can adequately convey the deep burning anger that I feel at this development. To do this to Marines and Soldiers in the field is..is.. :evil: Sometimes I think that we are actually deserving of being subjugated under Sharia for asinie, politically correct crap like this. If the Black Flag of Islam ever flies over us we know who to thank, and hopefully hunt down.

  • Steady

    the sooner Barry the Islamist is out of office the better the country will be.

  • copperpeony

    All terrorists whould get what Daniel Pearl got in Pakistan: PHUCKING BEHEADING!! :twisted: :twisted:

    Not cocktails and lawyers!!

  • comesiryourpassado

    This is part of the lefts “Vietnamazation” of the War on Terror
    Have screwy “rules of engagement” when the enemy go by no rules.
    Don’t go out of your way to destroy the enemy, just enough to make them
    what to negotiate a “peace” so they can break it after we leave.
    And now lawyers for the lawless.

  • grumpy mechanic

    Not good at all.

  • Phil Byler

    The Obama Adminsitration may be trying to appease the so-called “human rights activists” because the Obama Administration is in sympathy with that crowd. But neither what the Obama Administration is doing nor what so-called “human rights activists” want is dictated by international law properly interpreted. The problem is that the international lawyers and the so-called human rights activists are hell bent on displacing the laws of war with various international strictures basically giving judicial due process to detainees from wars, such as the Af-Pak War, that are part of the larger war with the Islamic Salafi jihadists. What they seek, if implemented, will result is higher casualties of our Marines and soldiers, but they don’t care. How they justify it means running roughshod over the U.S. Constitution and turning a blind eye to the war that the Islamic Salafi jihadists have initiated. What the Obama Administration is doing is just as objectionable.

  • Bobby E

    Doing everything he can to destroy this country.

  • http://www.accdf.com aboutTObegin

    and thus, placing the servicemembers in Afghanistan as he did the ones in Iraq. They should all be tried and found guilty of treason!

    -aTb

  • http://www.accdf.com aboutTObegin

    placing them in danger is what I meant…

  • MustangSandy

    Nov 2010 is not going to come fast enough…get you candidates primed for the fight.

  • http://www.accdf.com aboutTObegin

    thats right Mustang!!! and make sure you use ALL of the support services to get the message out (Facebook, Tea Party sites, and Glenn Beck….etc!!!! ) We are going to take back our Government and Impeach/prosecute the illegals in our White House!

    -aTb

  • http://www.thunderrun.us David M

    The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the blog post From the Front: 09/14/2009 News and Personal dispatches from the front and the home front.

  • MinneSoCold

    Allowed to challenge…. OK, how about this challenge. Set-up a land mine maze on the stadium field and if they get through it we’ll give them a one-minute head start run away so our snipers are challenged.

  • Bobby E

    I like it. Let’s use it for our traitors as well.

  • Tommy_G

    Need to have less prisoners and more martyrs.

  • nick

    Thats why I try really hard to not take prisoners. Not much person left after a 120mm from my tank hits them.

  • vincenzo4

    I understand that after this administration compromised the interrogation methods and added Miranda, most of the detainees are remaining silent abd uncooperative-and they know they cannot be forced to do a thing. Thanks a lot Eric Holder, thanks a lot Obama. When all this shit goes south I want all these archived news stories to add up to huge espionage trial for all your asses.