Absurdity: SCOTUS To Decide Which States The Second Amendment Applies To

October 2nd, 2009 (31) Posted By Erik Wong.

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Gun Control: The Supreme Court agrees to decide if the Second Amendment applies to all of us, or just Washington, D.C. Why would the Founders put in the Bill of Rights something applying only to a federal enclave?

In a 5-4 decision last year written by Justice Antonin Scalia, the Supreme Court overturned a draconian District of Columbia gun ban enacted 32 years ago that barred private ownership of handguns at all. Scalia wrote that an individual’s right to bear arms is supported by “the historical narrative” both before and after the Second Amendment was adopted.

The court ruled that the Second Amendment indeed protected an individual’s right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia and to use that firearm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. But it left unclear whether the ruling applied outside the nation’s capital.

The joy of Second Amendment defenders was short-lived. A three-judge panel of the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals rejected subsequent suits brought by the National Rifle Association against the city of Chicago and suburb Oak Park that similarly believe the Constitution prevents citizens from defending themselves.

That decision was written by Judge Frank Easterbrook, and his reasoning was fascinating. According to Easterbrook, the Revolution was fought and independence won so that the Founding Fathers could write a U.S. Constitution with a Bill of Rights that applied only to the District of Columbia.

Heller v. Washington, D.C., “dealt with a law enacted under the authority of the national government,” Easterbrook said, “while Chicago and Oak Park are subordinate bodies of a state.” We’re all for federalism, but the U.S. Constitution is the U.S. Constitution. Surely he cannot be serious.

But he is, and freshman Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor agrees with him. While she was on the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals, Sotomayor and the 2nd Circuit affirmed a lower court’s decision in a case that the Second Amendment applies only to federal laws and not to states or municipalities.

One of the plaintiffs in the Chicago case is Otis McDonald, a Chicago resident since 1952 and a retired maintenance engineer who helped integrate his union. He is also a community activist who has been threatened for his efforts to rid his neighborhood of drug dealers and other criminals. McDonald owns a handgun, but he cannot keep it inside the city because of the handgun ban.

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  • vivi libero o muori

    you see, DC is just a “district” not a state. It has no representation in the house or senate, has no state rights. Go figure, the Nation’s Capitol is responsible for the only area in the country where there truly is “Taxation without representation”

    • David

      Was DC even in existance when the Constitution and Bill of Rights were passed? Wasn’t the first Capital in Philadelphia?

      List of capitals in the United States
      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      Washington, D.C. has been the capital of the United States since 1800. Eight other cities have served as the meeting place for Congress and are therefore considered to have once been the capital of the United States. In addition, each of the 50 U.S. states and several territories of the United States maintains its own capital.

  • Hawkerdriver(Pisson the Koran)

    The loonies will never give up on this…Join the NRA !!

  • Kirk

    Well if the 2nd Amendment doesn’t apply, then NONE of the Bill of Rights has any application either, right? BULLSHIT! :gun: :gun: :gun:

    • Chuck O

      Well, you’ll still have the “right” to gay marriage and abortions. All of the others would be void to a Leftist.

    • proud2beaninfidel

      Then as a veteran, and a law-abiding citizen, I should have the right to a citizen’s arrest and administering “justice” to those who refuse to defend the United States from all enemies abroad and within. If we’re going to make our own rules, then let’s get started.

      We know there are many enemies among us, what are we going to do about it?

      Talk is cheap. Actions speak louder than words.

    • prestonsbrooks

      :arrow: :neutral: Read the 14th Amendment.

  • http://none WWTD

    5-4 should concern everyone. That’s two votes from the end.

  • Professor Bill

    This is just further proof that attorneys are in fact some of the dumbest most ill equiped thinkers to leave a college campus. They can’t build anything, they can’t fix a broken body, they can’t seem to write anything cogent or even pithy and they sure as hell can’t think logicaly.

    • Professor Bill

      And I never claimed to be a great speller

    • Jimbo

      No, you are no good speller, but you sure are a pithy writer.

      Jimbo

  • John DeFrees
    • Kirk

      AGREED, and that was a great show you did last night!

    • John DeFrees

      Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it.

  • Bob

    All I know is I still can’t find .357 rounds. One box since Chairman Obama took office

    • http://www.tipjarmusic.com/1/jameshooker.html James Hooker, Nipple Whisper

      38+P headshot can still do the trick. Just sayin

    • http://papaswamp.blogspot.com Papa Swamp

      Natchez Shooters supply has Rem UMC .357 125gr. $71.96 per box of 100rds. Not a bad deal! :smile:

    • Minuteman01

      reload, my friend. There may come a time when the option to buy more ammo no longer exists.

    • GRIZZ

      I can get S&B 158gr FMJ for $16.99 a box.38 special for the same price.

    • GRIZZ

      Box of 50

    • Lone Wolf
  • Sully

    This was made necessary because the NRA didn’t nut up and join the DC/Heller case. Scalia practically lamented that the case was too narrow.
    I think we win this one because in a loss the ramifications to Federalism are huge.
    Which might not be a bad way to get out from under the current Marxist regime.

  • Xparatwoopa

    Soooo… Chicago bitches about states rights, and it’s perfectly o.k. But when a red state gives the same argument (I.E stimulus), they want to succeed? Jumpin Jesuses, you can’t buy this much B.S at a dairy farm.

  • http://www.accdf.com aboutTObegin

    how about ALL MFin States fall under the Bill of Rights & Constitution!!! SCOTUS is NOT protecting the Constitution like it should be which is why their time is done. Once they outlaw guns is when we become outlaws.

    -aTb

    • DC

      Yup! If I’m gotta do the time, I’m gonna do the crime! :evil: :gun: :gun: :gun:

  • Jimbo

    Out law means that the outlaw has been – usually in absentia – declared outside the protection of the law. In medieval times, an outlaw was fair game to be killed or maimed, captured or face-branded upon sight. What’s more, there need not be any particular reason for his being treated thusly. It was done at the whim of the liege lord, sheriff or magistrate. It occurs to me that it is very difficult to so treat armed people. Is there something afoot about which we have not been informed?

    Jimbo

  • http://www.yankeemom.com yankeemom

    Law Schools are not teaching the history behind Constitutional Law. They just teach about precedents in the laws. So these supposedly educated idiots have no clue what our Founders meant by what they laid out in our Constitution. Nevermind the political backroom deals…or the fact that they are just idiots.

  • ZenDraken

    So, does this mean all jurisdictions smaller than states can now ignore the Bill of Rights?

    So, New York City can now declare an official state religion? Denver can now suppress free speech? San Francisco can now search and seize private property at will?

    Those are all “subordinate bodies of a state” and can do these things, per Easterbrook’s reasoning.

  • Steven D

    If the Supreme Court didn’t take up the issue, the previous ruling, i.e., allowing Chicago and Oak Park gun bans to stand, would stand.

    So, SCOTUS must over-rule the 7th Circuit Court ruling.

  • GRIZZ

    Will their decision stop anyone from carrying? Not me

  • http://HBCIndy.com Dr. Jerry

    If the SCOTUS rules in favor of Chicago and Oak Hill, and local municipalities can threfore preclude the right of citizens to “keep and bear arms” well…I don’t care! I will continue to carry a handgun where ever I please and whenever I please, in violation of the law if necessary.

    I don’t want to go to jail, but I will if I have to. I don’t want to shoot it out with local lawenforcement, but I will if I have to. Somewhere the line must be drawn, and the Second Ammendment has to be that line.

    I am ready to defend my right to be armed to the death, if need be I can start today! once we are unarmed by our government, then we are henceforth doomed to whatever their nefarious whims and wills might then be. I aint gonna live that way!

    How about you?