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French Troops Died After Scared Italian “Army” Stopped Paying “Don’t Hurt Me” Money To Taliban



Oct 15, 2009 16 Comments ›› Pat Dollard

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When ten French soldiers were killed last year in an ambush by Afghan insurgents in what had seemed a relatively peaceful area, the French public were horrified.

Their revulsion increased with the news that many of the dead soldiers had been mutilated — and with the publication of photographs showing the militants triumphantly sporting their victims’ flak jackets and weapons. The French had been in charge of the Sarobi area, east of Kabul, for only a month, taking over from the Italians; it was one of the biggest single losses of life by Nato forces in Afghanistan.

What the grieving nation did not know was that in the months before the French soldiers arrived in mid-2008, the Italian secret service had been paying tens of thousands of dollars to Taleban commanders and local warlords to keep the area quiet, The Times has learnt. The clandestine payments, whose existence was hidden from the incoming French forces, were disclosed by Western military officials.

US intelligence officials were flabbergasted when they found out through intercepted telephone conversations that the Italians had also been buying off militants, notably in Herat province in the far west. In June 2008, several weeks before the ambush, the US Ambassador in Rome made a démarche, or diplomatic protest, to the Berlusconi Government over allegations concerning the tactic.

However, a number of high-ranking officers in Nato have told The Times that payments were subsequently discovered to have been made in the Sarobi area as well.

Western officials say that because the French knew nothing of the payments they made a catastrophically incorrect threat assessment.

“One cannot be too doctrinaire about these things,” a senior Nato officer in Kabul said. “It might well make sense to buy off local groups and use non-violence to keep violence down. But it is madness to do so and not inform your allies.”

On August 18, a month after the Italian force departed, a lightly armed French patrol moved into the mountains north of Sarobi town, in the district of the same name, 65km (40 miles) east of Kabul. They had little reason to suspect that they were walking into the costliest battle for the French in a quarter of a century.

Operating in an arc of territory north and east of the Afghan capital, the French apparently believed that they were serving in a relatively benign district. The Italians they had replaced in July had suffered only one combat death in the previous year. For months the Nato headquarters in Kabul had praised Italian reconstruction projects under way around Sarobi. When an estimated 170 insurgents ambushed the force in the Uzbin Valley the upshot was a disaster. “They took us by surprise,” one French troop commander said after the attack.

A Nato post-operations assessment would sharply criticise the French force for its lack of preparation. “They went in with two platoons [approximately 60 men],” said one senior Nato officer. “They had no heavy weapons, no pre-arranged air support, no artillery support and not enough radios.”

Had it not been for the chance presence of some US special forces in the area who were able to call in air support for them, they would have been in an even worse situation. “The French were carrying just two medium machine guns and 100 rounds of ammunition per man. They were asking for trouble and the insurgents managed to get among them.”

A force from the 8th Marine Parachute Regiment took an hour and a half to reach the French over the mountains. “We couldn’t see the enemy and we didn’t know how many of them there were,” said another French officer. “After 20 minutes we started coming under fire from the rear. We were surrounded.”

The force was trapped until airstrikes forced the insurgents to retreat the next morning. By then ten French soldiers were dead and 21 injured.

The French public were appalled when it emerged that many of the dead had been mutilated by the insurgents— a mixed force including Taleban members and fighters from Hizb e-Islami.

A few weeks later French journalists photographed insurgents carrying French assault rifles and wearing French army flak jackets, helmets and, in one case, a dead soldier’s watch.

Two Western military officials in Kabul confirmed that intelligence briefings after the ambush said that the French troops had believed they were moving through a benign area — one which the Italian military had been keen to show off to the media as a successful example of a “hearts and minds” operation.

Another Nato source confirmed the allegations of Italian money going to insurgents. “The Italian intelligence service made the payments, it wasn’t the Italian Army,” he said. “It was payments of tens of thousands of dollars regularly to individual insurgent commanders. It was to stop Italian casualties that would cause political difficulties at home.”

When six Italian troops were killed in a bombing in Kabul last month it resulted in a national outpouring of grief and demands for troops to be withdrawn. The Nato source added that US intelligence became aware of the payments. “The Italians never acknowledged it, even though there was intercepted telephone traffic on the subject,” said the source. “The démarche was the result. It was not publicised because it would have caused a diplomatic nightmare. We found out about the Sarobi payments later.”

In Kabul a high-ranking Western intelligence source was scathing. “It’s an utter disgrace,” he said. “Nato in Afghanistan is a fragile enough construct without this lot working behind our backs. The Italians have a hell of a lot to answer for.”

Haji Abdul Rahman, a tribal elder from Sarobi, recalled how a benign environment became hostile overnight. “There were no attacks against the Italians. People said the Italians and Taleban had good relations between them.

“When the country [nationality of the forces] changed and the French came there was a big attack on them. We knew the Taleban came to the city and we knew that they didn’t carry out attacks on the Italian troops but we didn’t know why.”

The Italian Defence Ministry referred inquiries to the Prime Minister’s Office. A spokesman said: “The American Ambassador in Rome did not make any formal complaint. He merely asked for information, first from the previous Government and then from the current Government. The allegations were denied and they are totally unfounded.”

Silvio Berlusconi, the Prime Minister, defeated Romano Prodi at elections in April 2008.

The claims are not without precedent. In October 2007 two Italian agents were kidnapped in western Afghanistan; one was killed in a rescue by British special forces. It was later alleged in the Italian press that they had been kidnapped while making payments to the Taleban.


  • Nikki

    so? they’re french! who was paying? the italians? no big shock there … i expect that after i worked with them in the balkans … only sad to see that these events impact the rest of the troops in the AOR.

  • LechWalesa

    well Italians’rules are of clientelism, and it isn’t astonishing that Mafiosi are a italian crime organisation. Berlusconi’s government isn’t different, he would be in jail in any other country.

    Now, betraying have been always their sort of behaviour, when Hitler was attacking north of Belgium and France, Italians were attacking France in the Alps, Savoy, but a bunch of french soldiers, border guards, made a massacre in their ranks, and they finally pulled out !

  • Nikki

    france makes me glad to be from canada … say what you will about canada, but we have the largest population of french who never surrendered to the germans.

  • LechWalesa

    of course, you’re bordered by seals !

    but the one who run away first from the Germans were the Brits, remember Dunkirk retreat

  • Independent

    The Italians and Mussolini. The millstone around Hitler’s neck

    Now it has come out that Mussolini was an MI5 agent
    in WW1.

    The Italians were notorious for reporting German troop movements and Naval vessel movements to the British and Americans.

    Hell the Germans fought like lions defending the Italian homeland while the Italians were good for telling stories and entertaining the Germans in chow line.

  • Nikki

    true. why would one want to run away from a good wine and cheese and some laughs with good friends? particularly knowing that the hunters will come for you … i know, not tasteful, but it is how i see the rest of the frogs, err, french. :beer:

  • LechWalesa

    prout !

  • http://www.thunderrun.us David M

    The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the blog post From the Front: 10/15/2009 News and Personal dispatches from the front and the home front.

  • Lone Wolf

    In the old days this problem would have been solved by destroying every building, killing all military-aged males, selling the rest of the population into slavery, and putting salt in the fields to make them permanently sterile. Instead, we have rules of engagement that don’t allow us to shoot at people if ‘civilians’ are in the area, even though you can’t tell them apart. The worst thing you can do in war is prolong it.

  • Sully

    LechWalesa = Franchie

  • LechWalesa

    t’es fort comme le roc fort :roll:

  • EL GONZO

    I TOTALLY AGREE with you Lone Wolf, I though of the very same thing as I read down until I found your entry…only thing is that there would be no need for salt since they all would have been killed, why ruin it for those that took it over from these bastards…

  • aboutTObegin

    who cares for this article anyways….bunch of french with white flags….they abandoned us when we needed their help even though we saved their a$$’ from the Nazi’s!!!! I hope those puff’s keep on dieing!

    -aTb

  • LechWalesa

    baaaaaaaaaaaouaaaaaaaaaaaaah
    Return to school ignorant monkey

  • Political.fish

    She can change the name, but the stink follows her everywhere.

  • LechWalesa

    idiot