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	<title>Comments on: New &#8216;Journalism&#8217; Students: We Drink Coolaide! With Video</title>
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		<title>By: TerryTate</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2009/10/new-journalism-students-we-drink-coolaide-with-video/#comment-556720</link>
		<dc:creator>TerryTate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Journalism is getting paid for doing nothing but making shit up.  Nothing is produced, so is it any wonder that these folks have no touch with reality?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Journalism is getting paid for doing nothing but making shit up.  Nothing is produced, so is it any wonder that these folks have no touch with reality?</p>
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		<title>By: New Texan</title>
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		<dc:creator>New Texan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aaaargh, when they get out of their sheltered port  they have no option but to become somali pirates to pay off their student loans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aaaargh, when they get out of their sheltered port  they have no option but to become somali pirates to pay off their student loans.</p>
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		<title>By: RealityCheck</title>
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		<dc:creator>RealityCheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, this is what we call &quot;macroscopic fallacy.&quot; You show an example of one person or small group of people doing something, and declare that all people sharing a hand-picked, singular characteristic are necessarily doing the same thing. 

It would be the same to say that, since the three commenters above agreed with you, then all people who comment on blog posts agree with you.

Yes, this is stupid. No, it doesn&#039;t belong in a journalism ethics class. These things are true.

But, what is ignored are some simple facts: 

1) Columbia is a crap university. Nobody cares what the president of the university says, let alone some moron grad students with too much time on their hands.

2) Journo grad students are rarely ever found in the mainstream media. They&#039;re perpetual students. There is only a tiny percentage of mainstream media reporters from any outlet (print, radio, tv, online) that have post-graduate degrees. This is therefore not representative of the media as a whole.

3) If you can find a journalism graduate - or any other college graduate for that matter - who still follows all the rules and teachings of every professor they ever had, sell them to the Smithsonian and retire.

4) Saying they&#039;re idiots for not knowning the numbers on &quot;how many liberal contributors there are at Fox versus conservative contributors at ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, and PBS COMBINED!&quot; and then not having those same numbers in the story means that the writer of this story is an idiot too.

5) Fox is a pretty crappy media outlet because they very obviously slant their coverage. Same for MSNBC. They just slant in a different direction. Agreeing with one or the other doesn&#039;t change the fact that they&#039;re bad journalists who are breaking the rules that they teach in journalism ethics classes. If this song was about MSNBC being crap, it would be the same exact song with different names (though, Newsbusters would call it the greatest thing ever done instead of an offense).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, this is what we call &#8220;macroscopic fallacy.&#8221; You show an example of one person or small group of people doing something, and declare that all people sharing a hand-picked, singular characteristic are necessarily doing the same thing. </p>
<p>It would be the same to say that, since the three commenters above agreed with you, then all people who comment on blog posts agree with you.</p>
<p>Yes, this is stupid. No, it doesn&#8217;t belong in a journalism ethics class. These things are true.</p>
<p>But, what is ignored are some simple facts: </p>
<p>1) Columbia is a crap university. Nobody cares what the president of the university says, let alone some moron grad students with too much time on their hands.</p>
<p>2) Journo grad students are rarely ever found in the mainstream media. They&#8217;re perpetual students. There is only a tiny percentage of mainstream media reporters from any outlet (print, radio, tv, online) that have post-graduate degrees. This is therefore not representative of the media as a whole.</p>
<p>3) If you can find a journalism graduate &#8211; or any other college graduate for that matter &#8211; who still follows all the rules and teachings of every professor they ever had, sell them to the Smithsonian and retire.</p>
<p>4) Saying they&#8217;re idiots for not knowning the numbers on &#8220;how many liberal contributors there are at Fox versus conservative contributors at ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, and PBS COMBINED!&#8221; and then not having those same numbers in the story means that the writer of this story is an idiot too.</p>
<p>5) Fox is a pretty crappy media outlet because they very obviously slant their coverage. Same for MSNBC. They just slant in a different direction. Agreeing with one or the other doesn&#8217;t change the fact that they&#8217;re bad journalists who are breaking the rules that they teach in journalism ethics classes. If this song was about MSNBC being crap, it would be the same exact song with different names (though, Newsbusters would call it the greatest thing ever done instead of an offense).</p>
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		<title>By: David Ross</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2009/10/new-journalism-students-we-drink-coolaide-with-video/#comment-556584</link>
		<dc:creator>David Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is priceless. Parents tossing good money after bad on a career path that is going the way of the Candle Stick maker in an ever decreasing market that is tossing employees overboard faster than an Somali pirate ship. Thata boy! :beer:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is priceless. Parents tossing good money after bad on a career path that is going the way of the Candle Stick maker in an ever decreasing market that is tossing employees overboard faster than an Somali pirate ship. Thata boy! :beer:</p>
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		<title>By: WWTD</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2009/10/new-journalism-students-we-drink-coolaide-with-video/#comment-556549</link>
		<dc:creator>WWTD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More products of the NEA. Bring on the draft. Let us watch some videos of abdulscrotum muhammad hacking mr rapsters squak box off while his academic peers look on. A new bud light commercial...real man of genius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More products of the NEA. Bring on the draft. Let us watch some videos of abdulscrotum muhammad hacking mr rapsters squak box off while his academic peers look on. A new bud light commercial&#8230;real man of genius.</p>
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		<title>By: tedders</title>
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		<dc:creator>tedders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where do you get a  journalism degree? At a college of liberal arts! They aren&#039;t teaching them history, economics, business, mathematics, science or any of the things that have advanced human civilization. They&#039;re teaching them to admire Mao, Che, Lenin and Marx. They&#039;re what Lenin would classify as useful idiots, ... and they have a microphone in front of the television camera.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where do you get a  journalism degree? At a college of liberal arts! They aren&#8217;t teaching them history, economics, business, mathematics, science or any of the things that have advanced human civilization. They&#8217;re teaching them to admire Mao, Che, Lenin and Marx. They&#8217;re what Lenin would classify as useful idiots, &#8230; and they have a microphone in front of the television camera.</p>
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