Obama Signals Defeat In Afghanistan

October 29th, 2009 (18) Posted By Pat Dollard.

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There is no victory in leaving the countryside to the Taliban. Taliban under pressure in Pakistan will use the “free zones” in Afghanistan as haven. Obama does not want to make a decision before the upcoming November elections, and this whole delay, as well as his neutering of McChrystal’s request, is designed to appease the left, and keep their votes next year, instead of being designed to do what is in America’s best interests. It is politically-motivated treason, and it is an impeachable offense.

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Obama is considering sending large numbers of additional U.S. forces to Afghanistan next year but fewer than his war commander, Gen. Stanley McChrystal, prefers, U.S. officials said.

Such a narrowed military mission would escalate American forces to accomplish the commander’s broadest goals, protecting Afghan cities and key infrastructure. But the option’s scaled-down troop numbers likely would cut back on McChrystal’s ambitious objectives, amounting to what one official described as “McChrystal Light.”

Under the pared-down option, McChrystal would be given fewer forces than the 40,000 additional troops he has asked for atop the current U.S. force of 68,000, officials told The Associated Press.

Senior White House officials stressed, however, that the president has not settled on any new troop numbers and continues to debate other strategic approaches to the 8-year-old Afghanistan war. The officials say Obama has not yet firmly settled on the narrowed option or any other as his final choice for how to overhaul the war effort.

Two officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because Obama has not announced his decision, said the troop numbers under the narrowed scenario probably would be lower than McChrystal’s preference, at least at the outset. The officials did not divulge exact numbers.

The stripped-down version of McChrystal’s plan still would adopt the commander’s overall goals for a counterinsurgency strategy aimed at turning the corner against the Taliban next spring.

But that pared-down approach would reflect a shift in thinking about what parts of the war mission are most important and the intense political domestic debate over Afghan policy.

A majority of Americans either oppose the war or question whether it is worth continuing to wage, according to public opinion polls dating to when Obama shook up the war’s management and began a lengthy reconsideration of U.S. objectives earlier this year.

Any expansion of the war will displease some congressional Democrats, while Republicans are likely to accuse Obama of failing to give McChrystal all of what he requested.

A stripped-down approach would signal caution in widening a war that is going worse this year than last despite intense U.S. attention and an additional 21,000 U.S. forces on Obama’s watch.

Fourteen Americans were killed Monday in Afghanistan in two helicopter crashes, and a spate of roadside bombings Tuesday left eight U.S. troops dead. October has been the worst month for U.S. fatalities since the U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan began in October 2001.

Even if McChrystal gets less than he wants from Obama, the U.S. may still end up adding more troops later in 2010. The most likely reason would be to fill voids left by some NATO allies who have been considering troop cutbacks.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates has pushed back hard against a faction of administration officials, led by Vice President Joe Biden, who contend that much of the U.S. national security objective in Afghanistan could be accomplished by concentrating on strikes at al-Qaida along the Pakistan border.

That approach would focus on hunting terrorists with missile-bearing, pilotless drones and could require little or no additional U.S. manpower.

Gates has bridged both sides, officials said. Long wary of a large U.S. presence that could too easily look like an occupation army, he has suggested recently that he could support a carefully designed expansion.

Obama meets Friday with the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the military leaders who would have the responsibility for carrying out his strategy decisions. White House officials said the president will continue to consider his options with advisers over the next couple of weeks, adding that other broad war council meetings may still be called during that period.

The White House preference is to announce the troop decision after the Afghanistan’s run-off presidential election on Nov. 7, but before Obama leaves for a long and unrelated trip to Asia, four days later on Nov. 11. That timing is not assured, however, and no announcement plan has been settled upon by Obama and his aides, officials said.

Army and Marine Corps units would make up the bulk of any “surge” of U.S. forces, and the identification and training of specific units to be deployed would start soon, in late winter and early spring.

Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, is on record supporting a troop increase. He has not quantified his preference, but he signed off on McChrystal’s assessment of the worsening conditions in Afghanistan and the need for a change in both approach and boost in manpower.

Gates has not given a public opinion on McChrystal’s request but has pushed for the commander’s overarching strategy during recent weeks of review by the White House, officials said.

“I think that the analytical phase is … coming to an end,” Gates said last week in Europe. “Probably over the next two or three weeks we’re going to be considering specific options and teeing them up for a decision by the president. ”

As for McChrystal, he already begun carrying out elements of his targeted counterinsurgency plan, which focuses on the volatile south and east of the country and emphasizes protecting civilians even if it means allowing individual militants to escape.

McChrystal’s recommendations got broad endorsement from NATO defense chiefs last week, with the suggestion that some nations will increase troops or other resources.

The Friday meeting is the last formal session the president has scheduled to review the situation in Afghanistan and neighboring Pakistan, a decision-making process that Republican critics say has taken too long.

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  • BradW (the Infidel)

    How about instead of sending anymore troops, we send all of the liberals, at least all of the elcted ones in the country over, for a tour of not less than 15 months, with the caveat that they have to be in the country side, are not allowed to be in the cities at any time, in order to show the Afghanis the best way to socialize a country, see how long they last…

  • kim clift

    Axelrod staged this photo op, what a slap in the face to these families. May God take this serpent down in a slow and painful fashion. :mad: :!:

  • aboutTObegin

    he is a betrayer to all of us!!!! the blood of those spilled overseas are on his hands and his head!!!! May God Have Mercy!

    -aTb

  • intrepid

    :twisted: Spell his name any way you like,it’s still found
    between shit and syphilis in the dictionary

  • uclimbit

    The Final Indignity. Headline: obama desecrates bodies of American soldiers.
    Pretends concern. Thinks to himself “how far is the nearest golf course…”

  • MIke Citadel 98

    A little off topic and I may be a little nuts but what the hell. I thought the flagged draped coffin ceramony was always done in full dress uniform for offloading back in the states. Why are are guys in BDU’s. Just wondering. BTW, Oboma sucks socialist dick!!!!!!

  • bart simpson

    :smile: The “indecision” is on purpose. Hussein’s plan is to wreck the military so it cannot oppose his coming “civilian defense force,” or SA, to use a good old NAZI phrase. Obama will soon have secret death squads so prevalent in the banana republics. In another year or so, America will be indistinguishable from the gulags of Stalin or the Death Camps of Adolf Hitler. :shock:

    • GRIZZ

      Anybody wanna join the GRIZZ militia.

    • ZenDraken

      Obama will not wreck the military. He’ll try to wreck it, he’ll foul up a bunch of stuff, but he will not be *able* to wreck the military. Because he doesn’t understand The Oath.

      I’d like to see McChrystal resign over this. That would send a huge message to Obama.

  • GRIZZ

    Fucking posing over our warriors?
    YOU MOTHER FUCKER.AAAAAAGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun:

  • http://patdollard.com Average Joe

    What would the Founding Fathers and Patriots of 1774-1775 have done?

    They would never have let Obama take the “oath” because he was known as a traitor all along.

    We should DO NOW what they would have done to save the Country, the Consitution, and the Military Honor (and their lives).

    • uclimbit

      I keep coming back to this. It’s like trying not to look at an accident. I am infuriated at the insult to our American soldiers. This wart of instant gratification has brought contempt for America to a whole new level.

  • http://patdollard.com Average Joe

    I can see Hussein “laughing” at what he had just done about being at Dover, and joking about the irony of the SALUTE all the way home.

    And you know he did!!!!!!!!!

  • http://patdollard.com Average Joe

    :arrow: ALL
    And Hussein is LAUGHING AT US TOO, since we are giving him the time to cement together the Muslim-Kos Anarchist-Hollywood-HuffPO-ACORN network into the SA that BART SIMPSON is very right about on this story thread.

  • EL GONZO

    This photo is not staged….what Obama is saluting are the Taliban that killed our soldiers…He’s thinking about them and how he can increase the US body count further so that he can just pull out….When is this clown going to be arrested for treason?????????? Look at all those soldiers walking around him, and not one is taking the bold step to “arrest” this fucker on the spot…….Our secret service sucks,..

  • Rezz909

    This guy really bothers me. I’m not sure how to react to this guy without getting phuken angry. I’m getting ready to head out there again but this time it just doesn’t feel right.

  • Rezz909

    HE SUCH A PHONEY POSER!!!

  • Tellicorick

    Makes me physically sick to see this rotten cock sucker attempting to render a faggot weak hand salute to fallen soldiers. As to his strategy, I predicted it; cut and run, that’s all the weak minded liberals can do – can’t wait to see them try to talk or suck their way out of a nuclear attack on our soil. Hopefully the blast will send all of them to hell!