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Senate Committe Passes Health Care Bill That Will “Cost Us An Arm And A Leg”



Oct 13, 2009 19 Comments ›› Pat Dollard

Health Care Overhaul

Fox News:

Health care reform cleared a momentous hurdle Tuesday, as the Senate Finance Committee voted to send its version of the legislation to the Senate floor after months of closely watched deliberations.

The committee voted 14-9 in favor of the package. One Republican, Maine Sen. Olympia Snowe, broke with her party to support the bill. All 13 Democrats on the panel voted in favor of it, while the rest of the Republicans opposed it.

The panel was the last of five to act on health legislation, and the vote marked the biggest advance so far toward health care reform, as the committee’s legislation is considered the best building block for a compromise plan in the full Senate.

But much work still remains on the package, and Senate Republicans made clear after the committee vote that they will continue to fight the bill.

“It’s going to cost us an arm and a leg,” Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, said. “The costs of this are astronomical.”

The House still needs to bring a unified version to the floor, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will begin working with White House staff, Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., and others to blend the Finance bill with a more liberal version passed by the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee — before bringing a final product to the Senate floor.

If passed, the legislation would then go to a conference committee to reconcile differences before heading to the president’s desk.

The 10-year, $829 billion Finance Committee bill includes consumer protections such as limits on copays and deductibles and relies on federal subsidies to help lower-income families purchase coverage. Insurance companies would have to take all comers, and people could shop for insurance within new state marketplaces called exchanges.

Medicaid would be expanded, and though employers wouldn’t be required to cover their workers, they’d have to pay a penalty for each employee who sought insurance with government subsidies. The bill is paid for by cuts to Medicare providers and new taxes on insurance companies and others.

Unlike the other health care bills in Congress, Baucus’ would not allow the government to sell insurance in competition with private companies, a divisive element sought by liberals.

Last-minute changes made subsidies more generous and softened the penalties for those who don’t comply with a proposed new mandate for everyone to buy insurance. The latter change drew the ire of the health insurance industry, which said that without a strong and enforceable requirement not enough people would get insured, and premiums would jump for everyone else.

The road to the Tuesday vote was paved with bickering and complaints. At the start of discussion, the top Republican on the Senate Finance Committee said that he’s still concerned about the potential for more government control over health care.

Sen. Charles Grassley’s comments, and those of other Republicans, aired the lingering partisan divisions on the panel, even as Baucus stressed that his bill is a “balanced plan” that should win bipartisan support and eventually pass the full Senate.

“With this markup nearing its conclusion, we can now see clearly that the bill continues its march leftward,” Grassley, R-Iowa, said.

But Baucus urged his colleagues to “make history” by sending his comprehensive overhaul to the floor of the Senate and one big step closer to the president’s desk.

Snowe’s support was the most sought-after Republican vote by Democrats for months. The Maine Republican could be the only member of her party to vote for health care reform, though she cautioned Tuesday that support for the committee bill does not guarantee support for a final product.

“When history calls, history calls,” she said, even though she had some criticism of the bill.

She was among several key senators still on the fence over the pivotal package going into deliberations Tuesday, even though leadership aides said they were confident the bill would win enough backers.

But three previously undecided Democrats announced their support Tuesday, bolstering Baucus’ majority on the panel.

Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., said Tuesday afternoon he would support the bill, despite concerns that it could increase costs for families with mandates to obtain coverage and inadequate subsidies. Sen. Blanche Lincoln, D-Ark., also announced her support, though adding the same warning that her backing is not guaranteed down the road.

Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., was the last to unveil his support. The liberal Democrat wants nothing short of a government-run insurance plan in the bill, and he thinks the Finance Committee’s “co-op” system is not sufficient. He reiterated those views Tuesday.


  • ALPHA

    If this train wreck of a health care gets approved we as citizens that were against it should hang the final bill costs around the necks of those government officials and their future family members who imposed and shoved it down the throats of the American people.
    Every last damn cent at that.

  • josephus

    Democracy has failed us miserably today.
    These ideological buffoons refused to listen and now they will pay at the polls.

    • aboutTObegin

      no, they need to pay for it now! WE need to become relentless 24 hrs a day for each and every one of them!!! with a voice constantly reminding them that they are on their way out!!! DO NOT LET THEM EAT in peace, SLEEP in peace, or WORK in peace!!! They made the war, and we will finish it!!!! They have awoken the sleeping majority!!!! THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN NOW! and at the same time support ALL of those that are staying true to the Constitution! i.e. service members, Orly Taitz, Glenn Beck, Bachmann, Palin…etc!!!!!!

      -aTb
      The time for playing nice is over!

      -aTb

  • eric

    :twisted: “The bill is paid for by cuts to Medicare providers” Medicare already pays docs and hospitals often only 50-70% of the ACTUAL cost of health care; the rest has to get passed on to those paying with private insurance. With the ranks of Medicare swelling and current unfunded Medicare liabilities 5X larger than unfunded SOcial Security, throwing more on the backs of those under 65 is big time forced redistribution of wealth.

  • josephus

    What the fuck does this mean: “When history calls, history calls,” she said, even though she had some criticism of the bill.

    She voted to be what? Emblazoned on American history as the turncoat Republican who doomed us all to socialized medicine?

    People voted for this idiot president because they wanted to see history? WTF? Watch fucking History Channel if you wanna watch history.

    • saepe expertus

      I can’t image the degree of narcissistic megalomania that wanders around in the minds of the likes of Snowe. History calling?!?! Then to coyly demure, “My vote may change” – crap and damnation. All she is saying is, “What can you do for me between now and and my final vote?” If it’s good enough for me (or Maine: maybe she will try to exempt her state from it) then you’ve got me.” How about making history by voting to keep Americans free and properous. I hope the good voters of Maine can see fit to make her tenure “history” before too long. :mad: :mad: :mad:

  • brityank

    Here is a pdf (233 pages!) of the Senate Backus bill: “America’s Healthy Future Act”

    I suggest we spend the money to ship all these miscreants to Cuba for their health care – it will be cheaper in the long run!

  • EL GONZO

    Here comes communism marching in. Olympia snow should not get re-elected for one. I loath this government for the first time in my life but I trust that the people will take it back, one way or another.
    The military should start feeling guilty for letting our country fall into the hands of socialists. The generals are sitting idle in their bases. I thought that the first order of business, at least I did, was to defend the constitution first, not these freaks calling themselves elected officials. Wipe the slate clean and start over again but do start with ObamaShit……….

  • USMCTANKS

    time for guerrilla warfare

  • CPLViper

    What else needs to be done? Do we really need to go to DC next time with torches and pitchforks (or worse)? Do we really need to become traitors of this new form of government (as this is no longer the United States of America) in order to restore the true government that so many of us and our fore-fathers have faught and died for?

    This is a terrible day for the individual, terrible day for freedom … you know it, I know it … the only people who don’t are those willing to sell their freedom for the promises and pipe dreams of ideologs that speak of a utopia that will never and can never exist in reality.

    These so-called elected leaders are exempt from what you and I (and even the supporters of these lies) are going to have to endure. The supporters of this socialism will wake up one day. On that day, I will not say, “I told you so.” but I will take pleasure in their discovery in the fact that they were enslaved at the same moment I was. And while I pursued a course of opposition to the destruction of all our liberties, they blindly followed, gleefully into the mess that is almost, now, a certainty.

    Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness … currently we can scratch out Liberty and, soon, Life … and without those, I can guarantee that the Pursuit of Happiness will be nothing more than an exercise in futility.

    • SgtJenz

      Well stated Viper. That’s the last straw for me gents.

      Time to go off the grid. No more dialogue. No more being patient and hoping sanity will return to DC.
      This is it. Barry Goldwater spoke of this as did Ronald Reagan decades ago and now here we are.

      Time to light the fires. Ruck up…

  • Nanny

    How about all of us who do not support this stop paying our taxes? There is enough of us – probably over 60 million – that would put a dent in their spending sprees! How would they even begin to bring us in to prosecute us – there are not enough legal sharks to do that and we could collapse the IRS.

    • Spudman in GA

      Hit them where it hurts – money. it’s their drug of choice. Instead of refusing to pay taxes, why not start a drive to get the 50% of Americans that are against this to change they number of exemptions via re-submitting W-4′s? Use their own stupid tax form against them. Imagine the squeeze in tax revenue we could create if everyone jacked up their exemptions!

  • GRIZZ

    CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT

    • maynard

      demacunt

    • copperpeony

      I totally agree with you. It was not the best choice for her political career. I wonder what she got out of this? She is a traitor and I am ashamed as a woman conservative to even share the same female genes with someone like her. I spit in her face> :twisted:

  • hyandright

    Touche’ Griz..Touche’

  • aboutTObegin

    no, they need to pay for it now! WE need to become relentless 24 hrs a day for each and every one of them!!! with a voice constantly reminding them that they are on their way out!!! DO NOT LET THEM EAT in peace, SLEEP in peace, or WORK in peace!!! They made the war, and we will finish it!!!! They have awoken the sleeping majority!!!! THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN NOW! and at the same time support ALL of those that are staying true to the Constitution! i.e. service members, Orly Taitz, Glenn Beck, Bachmann, Palin…etc!!!!!!

    -aTb
    The time for playing nice is over!

  • aboutTObegin

    now Senator Collins from (R) Maine is signaling she will betray Americans with this crap!!!! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091014/ap_on_go_co/us_health_care_overhaul

    -aTb