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A War Tax? Are You F-ing Kidding Me?



Nov 30, 2009 15 Comments ›› Erik Wong

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The Washington Times:

After years of putting the cost of war on the nation’s credit card, liberal members of Congress say the time has come to impose a new war tax and drive home to average Americans how expensive it is to keep fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The call for a tax on high-income earners, coming from top Democrats in the House and Senate, signals a deep level of concern in President Obama’s own party about his plans to escalate the battle in Afghanistan.

“The only people who’ve paid any price for our military involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan are our military families,” three top House Democrats, led by Appropriations Committee Chairman David R. Obey of Wisconsin, said in announcing their proposal last month. “We believe that if this war is to be fought, it’s only fair that everyone share the burden.”

Republicans say the tax idea isn’t going anywhere and argue that of all the reasons to go further into debt, defense should be at the top.

“The Democrats are willing to bust the budget to pass a domestic program that the American people are against, but all of a sudden find it offensive to do something that is absolutely essential to the security of Americans here in the United States, which is to keep on offense in the war on terror,” Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, Kentucky Republican, said on CNN.

The Defense Department said that through this summer it was spending about $10 billion a month to keep up the war efforts in both Afghanistan and Iraq, and congressional estimates have put the cost of sending more troops at $1 million per soldier per year.

House Democrats’ Share the Sacrifice Act of 2010 would require the president to set a surtax level so that it fully pays for the previous year’s war costs. It would give the president discretion to delay the tax if he deems the economy too weak.

Mr. Obey is joined by Rep. John P. Murtha, Pennsylvania Democrat, and Rep. John B. Larson, Connecticut Democrat.

The three men said they fear the costs of the war will crowd out the social reforms Democrats are trying to push through after having captured control of Congress and the White House for the first time since the early years of the Clinton administration.

“I have to look at the entire federal budget as chairman of the committee, for instance,” Mr. Obey said Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “I have to see what $400 billion or $500 billion, $600 billion, $700 billion, over a decade, for this effort, will cost us on education, on our efforts to build the entire economy.”

In the Senate, Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin, Michigan Democrat, has proposed creating a higher tax bracket to pay for the wars — though this weekend he said he doubts it’s a good idea right now.

“Well, in the middle of a recession, we’re probably not going to be able to increase taxes to pay for it,” Mr. Levin said on CBS’ “Face the Nation.” “There should have been, as far as I’m concerned, tax increases long ago on upper-bracket folks who did so well during the Bush years. That’s where the tax increases should have taken place. But that should have happened some time ago.”

Mr. Obama will address the nation Tuesday and announce his policy going forward in Afghanistan, but the White House said a war surtax has not been part of the discussion there.

Press secretary Robert Gibbs said Mr. Obama in his remarks will touch only briefly on costs, though the White House expects the conversations about war spending to intensify.

“I think you’ll hear the president acknowledge the resource requirements and the responsibilities and the trade-offs that are going to have be discussed here and, more importantly, on Capitol Hill,” he said.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi sounded open to the new tax in a conference call with bloggers and reporters last week but said she would have to wait to hear the president’s plan before making any decisions.

“It is obviously part of the debate. Mr. Obey insists that it be,” Mrs. Pelosi said. “But I think the American people believe that if it’s something that’s in our national security interest — we have to be able to afford it. That doesn’t mean, though, that we hold everything else – you know, we say that everything else has to be paid for.”

When a similar proposal for a war tax was floated in 2007, Mrs. Pelosi quashed the idea.

Leaning on an artificial tax to cover the cost of the war while undercutting U.S. efforts to fight would be “disingenuous,” said Frederick W. Kagan, director of the Critical Threats Project at the American Enterprise Institute.

Congressional support for the war will hinge on the “extent that leadership is captive of the radical progressive agenda,” Mr. Kagan said. “Certain members of the progressive caucus see this as very attractive because it has the chance of increasing the unpopularity of the war.”

Perhaps the Senate’s most liberal member, Vermont independent Bernie Sanders, said that if the president is going to spend for more troops, the cost cannot be passed on to younger generations.

“If you’re going to have a presence there, you just can’t pass the bill on, as we did in Iraq, to our kids and our grandchildren. I think that’s wrong. I think that’s immoral,” Mr. Sanders said on ABC’s “This Week.”


  • More than Duty

    Sorry Pat, youre coming off as Neo-Con and not a proud American (I don’t care how many motivating documentaries you put out). Neo-Cons and Neo-Liberals are the common mans worst enemy. There is enough defense spending, just as there is enough social spending. Share the sacrifice act and its about time. Bush as much allegiance as I have to him as the Commander and Chief I served under never took advantage of bringing the population together as a whole to make sure we “all” win this war. First thing I can say the Democrats have done right in the past 11 months.

    • More than Duty

      Let me make myself clear, though it is politically motivated, I don’t doubt the wealthy will about face while “still supporting the troops”. If they don’t I’ll be sure suprised of my fellow Americans. None the less while we have been distracted by skirmishes with Muslims who think we are the Free Masons army or (one eyed Baal’s cult army), the globalist are preparing to surrender our borders. It’s been said in the past and more importantly in the Bible. Bush “my Commander In Chief”, though I hate to say it is a sell out, just as much as Obama. God Speed and I wish all of yall the best. Finding God is more important then what these traitors are trying to bait us with.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3jKB6_tVpQ

    • vincenzo4

      I like you. Molon Laabe. Next Year in Jerusalem my brother. Come Forth Lod Jesus, Commander of the Forces of the Massive North. Angels unbounded, Innumerable. That day approaches when all this will be silenced in His Presence, the supreme arrest warrant for evil served without incident.

      These people have demeaned and besmirched the likes of our forefathers egregiously and with glee in their wealthy arrigance in insulated buffers from the consequences of their decisions borne of jealousy.

      Shakespeare was dead on and so was Machiavelli, but most of all, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who keeps the universe from crumbling into dust and who has no clue what global warming is about is watching and preparing a war party, a QRF that will cause every eye to see, ever knee to bow and every mouth to confess.

      Pray for the Peace of Israel. David’s Sling will yet again swing true. Linerty Will reign in America!!!!!

  • Xavier

    If we let them they will tax air on Earth, as if they invented the atmospheric gases.

  • More than Duty

    Tax them just as they have taxed us of our honor and souls.

  • tom of wales

    I sorry that Wisconsin has sent this nitwit to Washington. Butits’s the only way we get him out of here.

    • vincenzo4

      His words have never made any sense to me, in decades. Kucinich ran his mouth about the Patriot Act a few weeks ago saying the terrorism arrests around the country were timed to ensure renewal of the Patriot Act. Another coward in a 2,000 dollar suit. Fact is, the initiatives heretofore absent before this band-aid of a the Patriot Act, if in place over the last sveral decades might have saved untold lives and stopped this flood of espionage we face.

      Bastards.

  • Korey

    the british are coming, the british are coming

  • GRIZZ

    Go fuck yourself levin
    Maybe if you corrupt fucks would stop giving our money away to acorn and the seiu and all your auto union thugs,there would be enough money to defeat a bunch of goat fucking peasents.
    And if you had any money left,you could buy yourself some balls.

  • vincenzo4

    They are Democrats. What exactly did you expect? Principle? Honor? Valor? Service?

  • Sully

    Asswipe Levin needs to spend more time with The Constitution.
    National defense is the PRIMARY purpose of the money we ALREADY pay in Federal taxes.

    • vincenzo4

      The priority in the 90s should have been national security-deliberately neglected. Bush had to conduct damage control. Since January national security has been emaciated deliberately and no says a word. Democrats.

  • Tom in CO

    So it’s not enough that they risk their lives to protect you and the country anymore? Gtfo…

    • vincenzo4

      Not enough, in fact our folks they want abandonned and tried in front of foreigners the Hague. BUT, but these animals whose passion is wholesale violations of the Geneva Convention and Human Rights, all over the globe-well, we MUST must give them Miranda Rights. Everything these bastards have done since January is blatantly deliberate, naievete my patriotic Irish-Italian Ass.

    • saepe expertus

      Vincenso,
      Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet. I love you.