Comments on: Man Made Climate Change Proved To Be A Hoax As Hackers Expose Climategate: The Final Nail In The Coffin Of Global Warming? http://patdollard.com/2009/11/hackers-expose-climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-global-warming/ The War Starts Here Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:51:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: punisher55 http://patdollard.com/2009/11/hackers-expose-climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-global-warming/#comment-576691 punisher55 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:26:29 +0000 http://patdollard.com/?p=98275#comment-576691 The Libtard media is still a very powerful propaganda machine for the left and they will do what ever it takes to make this go away. The Libtard media is still a very powerful propaganda machine for the left and they will do what ever it takes to make this go away.

]]> By: USNA1985 http://patdollard.com/2009/11/hackers-expose-climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-global-warming/#comment-576535 USNA1985 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:11:30 +0000 http://patdollard.com/?p=98275#comment-576535 I just heard on Rush's show today that the Competitive Enterprise Institute is sueing NASA for violation of the FOI Act in that they conspired with the CRU in the UK to commit fraud. The MSM can ignore this all they want, but they can't ingnore the LAW!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :lol: :lol: I just heard on Rush’s show today that the Competitive Enterprise Institute is sueing NASA for violation of the FOI Act in that they conspired with the CRU in the UK to commit fraud. The MSM can ignore this all they want, but they can’t ingnore the LAW!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :lol: :lol:

]]> By: crimedog http://patdollard.com/2009/11/hackers-expose-climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-global-warming/#comment-576508 crimedog Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:35:51 +0000 http://patdollard.com/?p=98275#comment-576508 The lame stream news media will not report this. Truth doesnt fit their agenda. The lame stream news media will not report this. Truth doesnt fit their agenda.

]]> By: Unbeliever http://patdollard.com/2009/11/hackers-expose-climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-global-warming/#comment-576480 Unbeliever Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:05:56 +0000 http://patdollard.com/?p=98275#comment-576480 AGW being a potential or (in the case of Al Gore) actual cash cow, ostensibly generating new "earth friendly" industries at the expense of the big ol' dirty oil and coal companies, it's no wonder some climate researchers act as if they have a dog the fight. If AGW were an actual serious phenomenon of emergency proportions, we in the United States would be fast-tracking nuclear power plant and hydroelectric dam construction. But no new plants are being built (Yucca Mountain has been declared dead by the Obamessiah) and we've been knocking down dams while China is building them. It's well known that alternative energy production methods are nowhere close to replacing fossil fuels yet the singing of the alternative energy choir continues unabated. A reasonable person might question the motivations of the AGW crowd. A reasonable answer might be that the AGW crowd doesn't believe in AGW themselves, they just want YOU to believe, so as to maximize their standing before the politicians they seek to influence. Those politicians can then increase the considerable power they already have over our daily lives, making a few bucks in the process. A fraction of that money is then used to continue funding researchers who prop up the whole scheme. Politicians continually seek to provide solutions for problems non-existent or beyond their control. It's the rest of us who are firmly within their grasp, and those who squirm risk having their life squeezed out. Why liberal-minded people fall prey time and time again to those power-seekers espousing Utopian ideals is beyond me. Perhaps their belief in the perfectibility of Man requires a bit of amnesia. AGW being a potential or (in the case of Al Gore) actual cash cow, ostensibly generating new “earth friendly” industries at the expense of the big ol’ dirty oil and coal companies, it’s no wonder some climate researchers act as if they have a dog the fight. If AGW were an actual serious phenomenon of emergency proportions, we in the United States would be fast-tracking nuclear power plant and hydroelectric dam construction.
But no new plants are being built (Yucca Mountain has been declared dead by the Obamessiah) and we’ve been knocking down dams while China is building them. It’s well known that alternative energy production methods are nowhere close to replacing fossil fuels yet the singing of the alternative energy choir continues unabated.
A reasonable person might question the motivations of the AGW crowd.
A reasonable answer might be that the AGW crowd doesn’t believe in AGW themselves, they just want YOU to believe, so as to maximize their standing before the politicians they seek to influence. Those politicians can then increase the considerable power they already have over our daily lives, making a few bucks in the process. A fraction of that money is then used to continue funding researchers who prop up the whole scheme. Politicians continually seek to provide solutions for problems non-existent or beyond their control. It’s the rest of us who are firmly within their grasp, and those who squirm risk having their life squeezed out. Why liberal-minded people fall prey time and time again to those power-seekers espousing Utopian ideals is beyond me. Perhaps their belief in the perfectibility of Man requires a bit of amnesia.

]]> By: Bob http://patdollard.com/2009/11/hackers-expose-climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-global-warming/#comment-576455 Bob Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:22:41 +0000 http://patdollard.com/?p=98275#comment-576455 Most people will never see this story. I've been posting the Washington Times link on FaceBook and places. The drive by news media will try and avoid this story. Fox News was talking about it. Most people will never see this story. I’ve been posting the Washington Times link on FaceBook and places. The drive by news media will try and avoid this story. Fox News was talking about it.

]]> By: killczar http://patdollard.com/2009/11/hackers-expose-climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-global-warming/#comment-576344 killczar Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:03:55 +0000 http://patdollard.com/?p=98275#comment-576344 these people will not stop at health care. they are going to continue to shove this down the throats of all americans. my pitchforks are sharp and my mind is clear. the time is now to turn the tables. these people will not stop at health care. they are going to continue to shove this down the throats of all americans. my pitchforks are sharp and my mind is clear. the time is now to turn the tables.

]]> By: fan http://patdollard.com/2009/11/hackers-expose-climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-global-warming/#comment-574947 fan Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:58:58 +0000 http://patdollard.com/?p=98275#comment-574947 see postings about this at wattsupwiththat.com Cap and tax may still not be defeated, they bribed 60 to vote on the health bill debacle. they can do it again. see postings about this at wattsupwiththat.com
Cap and tax may still not be defeated, they bribed 60 to vote on the health bill debacle. they can do it again.

]]> By: Hawkerdriver (Pisson the Koran) http://patdollard.com/2009/11/hackers-expose-climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-global-warming/#comment-574827 Hawkerdriver (Pisson the Koran) Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:27:49 +0000 http://patdollard.com/?p=98275#comment-574827 It's a huge story,one that like all the rest will be swept under the carpet while everyone is focused on health care.Health care to the enemy is just a beach head.Cap and trade will be a much bigger campaign with (planned) devastating results.When that rolls through the Politburo on the Potomac,amnesty will be a walk in the park Kazanski ! Sorry,but I don't see anything comming to light out of this.I pray I'm wrong. :sad: Keep yer pitch forks sharp ! It’s a huge story,one that like all the rest will be swept under the carpet while everyone is focused on health care.Health care to the enemy is just a beach head.Cap and trade will be a much bigger campaign with (planned) devastating results.When that rolls through the Politburo on the Potomac,amnesty will be a walk in the park Kazanski !

Sorry,but I don’t see anything comming to light out of this.I pray I’m wrong. :sad:

Keep yer pitch forks sharp !

]]> By: Musing Lew http://patdollard.com/2009/11/hackers-expose-climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-global-warming/#comment-574602 Musing Lew Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:34:02 +0000 http://patdollard.com/?p=98275#comment-574602 Oh this is even juicier than I had hoped. These butt clowns were conspiring to circumvent FOIA requests: When [Professor Phil] Jones is really forced to the point of handing over his data, he considers ways to make checking it more difficult or annoying: "Options appear to be: Send them the data Send them a subset removing station data from some of the countries who made us pay in the normals papers of Hulme et al. (1990s) and also any number that David can remember. This should also omit some other countries like (Australia, NZ, Canada, Antarctica). Also could extract some of the sources that Anders added in (31-38 source codes in J&M 2003). Also should remove many of the early stations that we coded up in the 1980s. Send them the raw data as is, by reconstructing it from GHCN. How could this be done? Replace all stations where the WMO ID agrees with what is in GHCN. This would be the raw data, but it would annoy them." But Jones figures a way out: At 04:53 AM 5/9/2008, he writes: "Mike, Ray, Caspar, A couple of things – don’t pass on either… 2. You can delete this attachment if you want. Keep this quiet also, but this is the person who is putting in FOI requests for all emails Keith and Tim have written and received re Ch 6 of AR4. We think we’ve found a way around this… This message will self destruct in 10 seconds! Cheers Phil Prof. Phil Jones" More from Don’t-Disclose Phil, who seems to have a like-minded acolyte in Melbourne’s own Bureau of Meterology warmist David Jones: Email 1182255717.txt "Wei-Chyung and Tom, The Climate Audit web site has a new thread on the Jones et al. (1990) paper, with lots of quotes from Keenan. So they may not be going to submit something to Albany. Well may be?!? Just agreed to review a paper by Ren et al. for JGR. This refers to a paper on urbanization effects in China, which may be in press in J. Climate. I say ‘may be’ as Ren isn’t that clear about this in the text, references and responses to earlier reviews. Have requested JGR get a copy a copy of this in order to do the review.In the meantime attaching this paper by Ren et al. on urbanization at two sites in China.Nothing much else to say except: 1. Think I’ve managed to persuade UEA to ignore all further FOIA requests if the people have anything to do with Climate Audit .2. Had an email from David Jones of BMRC, Melbourne. He said they are ignoring anybody who has dealings with CA, as there are threads on it about Australian sites. 3. CA is in dispute with IPCC (Susan Solomon and Martin Manning) about the availability of the responses to reviewer’s at the various stages of the AR4 drafts. They are most interested here re Ch 6 on paleo. Cheers Phil“ If chit doesn't hit the fan we had better make sure to start slinging it ourselves! ML Oh this is even juicier than I had hoped. These butt clowns were conspiring to circumvent FOIA requests:

When [Professor Phil] Jones is really forced to the point of handing over his data, he considers ways to make checking it more difficult or annoying:

“Options appear to be:

Send them the data

Send them a subset removing station data from some of the countries who made us pay in the normals papers of Hulme et al. (1990s) and also any number that David can remember. This should also omit some other countries like (Australia, NZ, Canada, Antarctica). Also could extract some of the sources that Anders added in (31-38 source codes in J&M 2003). Also should remove many of the early stations that we coded up in the 1980s.

Send them the raw data as is, by reconstructing it from GHCN. How could this be done? Replace all stations where the WMO ID agrees with what is in GHCN. This would be the raw data, but it would annoy them.”

But Jones figures a way out:

At 04:53 AM 5/9/2008, he writes:

“Mike, Ray, Caspar,

A couple of things – don’t pass on either…

2. You can delete this attachment if you want. Keep this quiet also, but this is the person who is putting in FOI requests for all emails Keith and Tim have written and received re Ch 6 of AR4. We think we’ve found a way around this…

This message will self destruct in 10 seconds!

Cheers

Phil

Prof. Phil Jones”

More from Don’t-Disclose Phil, who seems to have a like-minded acolyte in Melbourne’s own Bureau of Meterology warmist David Jones:

Email 1182255717.txt

“Wei-Chyung and Tom,

The Climate Audit web site has a new thread on the Jones et al. (1990) paper, with lots of quotes from Keenan. So they may not be going to submit something to Albany. Well may be?!?

Just agreed to review a paper by Ren et al. for JGR. This refers to a paper on urbanization effects in China, which may be in press in J. Climate. I say ‘may be’ as Ren isn’t that clear about this in the text, references and responses to earlier reviews. Have requested JGR get a copy a copy of this in order to do the review.In the meantime attaching this paper by Ren et al. on urbanization at two sites in China.Nothing much else to say except:

1. Think I’ve managed to persuade UEA to ignore all further FOIA requests if the people have anything to do with Climate Audit

.2. Had an email from David Jones of BMRC, Melbourne. He said they are ignoring anybody who has dealings with CA, as there are threads on it about Australian sites.

3. CA is in dispute with IPCC (Susan Solomon and Martin Manning) about the availability of the responses to reviewer’s at the various stages of the AR4 drafts. They are most interested here re Ch 6 on paleo.

Cheers

Phil“

If chit doesn’t hit the fan we had better make sure to start slinging it ourselves!

ML

]]> By: mike3481 http://patdollard.com/2009/11/hackers-expose-climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-global-warming/#comment-574401 mike3481 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:39:34 +0000 http://patdollard.com/?p=98275#comment-574401 Just downloaded it. God bless you. :beer: :beer: Just downloaded it.

God bless you.

:beer: :beer:

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