House Struggling To Collect Enough Votes To Ruin America

November 6th, 2009 (14) Posted By Erik Wong.

Health Overhaul Capitol Rumble

WASHINGTON — Amid intense lobbying by the Obama administration, House Democratic leaders struggled Friday for the final votes needed to pass sweeping health care legislation, working to ease concerns among Hispanic holdouts and abortion foes.

“We’re very close” to having enough votes to prevail, said Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland, although he added a scheduled Saturday vote could slip by a day or two and sought to pin the blame on possible Republican delaying tactics.

“Nice try, Rep. Hoyer, but you can’t blame Republicans when the fact is you just don’t have the votes,” shot back Antonia Ferrier, spokeswoman for the GOP leader, Rep. John Boehner of Ohio.

In a struggle that combined the fate of President Barack Obama’s top domestic priority and a 2010 campaign issue, bipartisanship was not an option.

GOP leaders boasted that all 177 House Republicans stood ready to oppose the $1.2 trillion bill, which would create a new federally supervised insurance marketplace where the uninsured could purchase coverage.

Consumers would have the option of picking a government-run plan, the most hotly contested item in the legislation and the basis for the Republican claim that Democrats were planning a government takeover of the insurance industry.

Democrats said their bill was designed to spread coverage to millions who lack it, ban insurance industry practices such as denying coverage on the basis of pre-existing medical conditions and restrain the growth of health care spending nationally. The Congressional Budget Office said that if enacted, the measure would extend coverage to 96 percent of all eligible Americans within 10 years.

Obama and his administration lobbied furiously for its passage.

Rep. Jason Altmire, a second-term Democrat from western Pennsylvania, said he received calls during the day from the president, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius and Education Secretary Arne Duncan. Their message was “this is a historic moment. You don’t want to end up with nothing,” he said.

Altmire added his callers emphasized the legislation would change once it left the House, “but if you kill it now it’s over” for the foreseeable future. He said he remained undecided on his vote.

Several Democrats have already announced their opposition, most of them moderate to conservative members of the so-called Blue Dog Coalition.

Democrats hold 258 seats in the House and can afford 40 defections and still wind up with 218, a majority if all lawmakers vote.

The White House issued a statement of support for the measure, saying it “meets the president’s criteria for health insurance reform: It assures that all Americans have access to quality, affordable health care that is there when they need it and does so without adding a dime to the deficit.”

Months after Obama urged lawmakers to remake the health care system, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the leadership struggled to resolve controversies over the bill’s treatment of illegal immigrants and insurance coverage for abortion, issues that transcend health care and have long divided the Democratic cacus as they do the nation.

Abortion blended politics and religion.

Federal law currently prohibits the use of federal funds to pay for abortions except in the case of rape, incest of situations in which the life of the mother is in danger. That left unresolved whether individuals would be permitted to use their own funds to buy insurance coverage for the procedure in the federally backed insurance exchange envisioned under the legislation.

A compromise proposal backed by Rep. Brad Ellsworth, D-Ind., would allow it, so long as abortions weren’t paid for from federal funds used to subsidize insurance policies bought by lower-income individuals and families.

While that was enough to satisfy some, other abortion foes objected, backed by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, and Democrats weighed possible concessions that could satisfy them without losing votes from abortion rights Democrats.

The controversy surrounding illegal immigrants remains “a work in progress,” Rep. Nydia Velazquez, a New Yorker and chairwoman of the Hispanic Caucus, said after a mid-day meeting in Pelosi’s office.

As drafted, the legislation permits illegal immigrants to purchase coverage with their own money inside the insurance exchange that would be created — a provision that the 23-member Hispanic Caucus wants retained in any final compromise that reaches Obama’s desk.

One lawmaker who attended the sesssion, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss the private talks, said members of the Hispanic Caucus sought and received assurances from Pelosi that she and the leadership would support them as the bill made its way through the House and ultimately to the president’s desk. But this lawmaker said the speaker was not able to get a pledge in return that the Hispanics would all vote for the bill regardless of how their issue was ultimately settled.

Despite the uncertainty, Hispanic lawmakers generally have a strong incentive to support the legislation. According to the Census Bureau, nearly 31 percent of Hispanics are uninsured, roughly double the rate of 15 percent for the U.S. population as a whole.

The bill provides federal subsidies for consumers at lower incomes to to defray the cost of insurance. Most individuals would be required to buy coverage and large businesses would have to provide it to their employees.

The bill would be paid for by cuts in future payments to Medicare providers as well as a surcharge of 5.4 percent on income tax filers with income of $500,000 for individuals and $1 million for couples.

The bill also would provide for a large expansion of Medicaid, the federal-state program for the poor, and eliminate a gap in drug coverage under Medicare.

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  • Hawkerdriver (Pisson the Koran)

    They have the majority,they have the nuclear option.They will pass this.What will we do about it? Carry signs? 2010 is a faint glimmer of hope,but I think by then the elections will be as corrupt as everything else.What then,carry more signs?They are seeing the fruits of 40 years of dogged pursuit of their ideals,they won’t give up that easy.The new laws will come faster than we can say Pol Pot.I will not obey.

    I’ve been to 3 tea parties and carried signs myself so I’m not dissing tea party goers.I just don’t think it’s productive anymore.I’ll stop there.

    • SgtJenz

      :beer: :beer:

    • saepe expertus

      :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: Somebody give me another, I can still hear Pelosi talking.

    • killczar

      time for a little d.c. cleansing. my sign carrying days have come to an end.

  • Sully

    I disagree. We’ve achieved a great deal in one year. The Tea Party movement is awesome and I think it has demoralized Barry quite a bit…. but Conservatives HAVE TO reassert themselves in local politics as well. It has been the front line of Progressive politics with little to no opposition for far too long.
    Where do you think these assholes get started?

    “Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered….. ” – Thomas Paine

    • Hawkerdriver (Pisson the Koran)

      Demoralized Barry quite a bit? Well,probably but remember he is only a puppet.It hasn’t demoralized his handlers.They are laughing at us,and gathering steam for their next assault. True,we have acheived a great deal in the last year as far as situational awareness on our side goes,(OMG,were we ever asleep!)but I think that’s it. Us merely feeling good about ourselves inflicts zero damage to the enemy’s schedule.

      We have to start formulating ways to thwart the liberal torch bearing media.That they are a pillar of the progressive movement would be the understatement of the century.The msm is literaly the walls around the castle now.We must breach that first,before we can ever hope to have a say in DC again.

  • TerryTate

    You know this gives me a thought regarding a third party.

    I’m sure the Repubs are going to try and take credit for this failure to pass healthcare.

    But wouldn’t it be nice if there was a third conservative party which held enough seats to ensure that neither the Democrats nor the Republicans could dominate congress?

    Sure, maybe we wouldn’t control the government, but we would ensure that neither of those parties could ram their big government ideas down our throats.

    I have a dream…

    • ZenDraken

      I share your dream, but I worry that a third party would steal more votes from the Republicans than it would from the Democrats, leaving the Dems with a majority over either Republicans or the 3rd party.

      In other words, it could end up Dems: 40%, Republicans: 30%, 3rd party: 30%. So the Dems wouldn’t have an overall majority, but they’d have more power than the other two parties.

    • RexRedbone

      We take the republican party back time to scare these A Holes that we mean business

  • John H

    If this shit passes it will be the equivilent of a 400 megaton economic bomb……very few times can you look back and see a single moment that was the clear point at which everything went to hell….but this would deffinately be it.

    This will GUARANTEE our journey from superpower to the next Europe like has been state. Might as well just go ahead and crown China the new king.

  • Sully

    @HawkerDriver:
    Yes, even Barry’s ‘handlers’ are becoming demoralized at the resurgence of American values. Losing NJ and VA were huge.
    We’re still lacking in “situational awareness” though. Most Americans have no idea what an anti-Constitutional Progressive ‘is’ but that is changing.
    We have managed to slow this train wreck down though. And that is significant.
    Don’t get me wrong. I no longer believe any political reconciliation with ‘the other side of the aisle’ is possible. I think the laughably ‘post-partisan’ Marxist liar Barry will bring this country to the same point it was in 1860. Secession and/or nullification will become more likely and not less the next several years.
    But not yet.

    That Thomas Paine quote I referenced ends with the warning…. “…the cunning of the fox is as murderous as the violence of the wolf…”.
    Well, we are smarter than they are. Passion is necessary but not enough. ‘We’ have no army yet.
    Some of the speeches Sherman made around 1860 warned the South against bringing violence ‘too soon’ to their right to secede.

    Again, it is becoming clearer that we are smarter than they are.
    We also have God and right on our side.

  • Minuteman01

    I want a drink.

  • politicalfish

    This week has been a turning point for me. I am losing my mind. The profound indifference to the open murder of our citizens and soldiers shown by this administration, and our so-called representatives is unforgivable. There is no outrage among the people, the military leadership, the media or any others outside of a small cadre of conservative bloggers. When our soldiers and citizens are brazenly murdered, in broad daylight, on our own soil, by a known terrorist invited and encouraged by our sitting president and his policies, and no person in authority is willing to even acknowledge the truth of what has happened, or act in an appropriate manner in response or opposition, then our system, as a whole, has collapsed. Our president is a traitor, he is responsible for the murders of our people and not a goddamn thing is being done. The news cycle has passed, the thing has been white-washed, and Barry is now forcing health-control down our throats. American civilization is close to death, we are running out of options, we are running out of time.

  • Gary in Midwest

    Any bill thats written by communists and criminals should avail itself to be unwritten by the people who flush the DC toilet in 2010.