Politico Says Tea Partiers Are Turning On Each Other

November 20th, 2009 (23) Posted By Pat Dollard.

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Politico:

After emerging out of nowhere over the summer as a seemingly potent and growing political force, the tea party movement has become embroiled in internal feuding over philosophy, strategy and money and is at risk of losing its momentum.

The grass-roots activists driving the movement have become increasingly divided on such core questions as whether to focus their efforts on shaping policy debates or elections, work on a local, regional, state or national level or closely align themselves with the Republican Party, POLITICO found in interviews with tea party organizers in Washington and across the country.

Many of these differences date to the movement’s beginnings last winter in an outpouring of anger about the huge increases in government spending enacted by President Barack Obama and the Democratic Congress. But they were overshadowed by the initial explosion of activism that culminated during the congressional town hall meetings in August.

Now the disagreements and the sense of frustration they have engendered could diminish the movement’s potential influence in state and national politics.

“These groups don’t play as well together as they should,” said Kevin Jackson, a St. Louis-based conservative author and activist who has spoken at dozens of tea party-type rallies and is traveling across the South with a convoy sponsored by the national Tea Party Patriots group.

“They’re fractured at the organization level, I think mainly because there are a lot of people who have not had managerial experience who all of a sudden are thrust into the limelight and become intoxicated with it. And when a potential rift comes up, instead of handling it and maybe agreeing to disagree, they splinter and go off on their own.”

The movement is composed of hundreds of independent local groups, many of which are incorporated as nonprofits and have localized names referencing the tea parties, 9/12 or We the People.

Many of their members also belong to national conservative groups, including FreedomWorks, Americans for Prosperity and Grassfire, while the local groups often affiliate formally or informally with loose-knit umbrella organizations, including the Tea Party Patriots and Tea Party Nation.

The organizational chaos — combined with a widening apathy at the edges of the movement — has produced a growing consensus among local, state and national tea party leaders that for the movement to evolve from the loose conglomeration of fired-up activists who mobilized this summer to register their dissatisfaction with Obama and Congress at town hall protests and marches across the country into a sustainable bloc with the power to shape the GOP and swing elections, it will require the emergence of a national leader, group or structure.

Ned Ryun, president of American Majority, a nonprofit that has conducted organizer-training sessions for many tea party activists, said “the next three to six months” are going to be critical in determining “what’s going to happen with the tea party movement. Are they going to be a bunch of fingers, or are they going to come together to be a fist?”

Yet, while some tout a planned National Tea Party Convention in February (at which former Alaska governor and tea party darling Sarah Palin is listed as the keynote speaker) as a potentially unifying moment and others point to online coordination efforts, there is deep disagreement about what any national organization would look like and who would lead it.

FreedomWorks, Americans for Prosperity, Grassfire, Americans for Limited Government and a host of other groups have helped organize various efforts capitalizing on the energy behind the tea parties, including providing training, online war rooms that help generate phone calls and ready-to-distribute canvassing literature.

But the groups have also jockeyed — mostly behind the scenes — to take credit for leadership of the movement, which — depending on who’s doing the telling — took its name either as an homage to the 1773 Boston tax revolt that played a major role in sparking the American Revolution or from an acronym standing for “taxed enough already.”

Some activists see the turmoil within the movement and the internal clashes as simply a part of maturing.

“Some of these groups may burn out, but this is part of this entrepreneurial process and the competition is good,” said Adam Brandon, vice president of communications for FreedomWorks, a nonprofit chaired by former House Majority Leader Dick Armey of Texas.

The group has facilitated some of the efforts demonstrating the potential power of the movement. Those have included the confrontations that erupted at congressional town halls this summer, the massive Sept. 12 “Taxpayer March on Washington” as well as another Washington rally this month and support for conservative third-party candidate Doug Hoffman, who narrowly lost a special congressional election in upstate New York this month despite strong support from many tea party groups and leaders.

Brandon stressed that the strength of the tea party movement is in its grass-roots nature and that FreedomWorks’s goal is to help facilitate the movement, not to control it.

“One thing that’s clear is that anyone who says they own the tea party movement is going to get run over because no one owns the movement,” he said.

Brandon acknowledged the “rivalries and turf battles” now gripping parts of the movement but said “that’s normal because people have different ideas about what they want. That’s what’s happening now, and it’s sometimes a painful process.”

Those fights have been waged over issues that go to the heart of the movement’s purpose and strategy as well as more mundane rivalries and personal feuds.

In Myrtle Beach, S.C., disputes within the local tea party about how much to engage in partisan politics and whether board members were profiting from contracts to print paraphernalia emblazoned with the group’s logo prompted the treasurer to resign and join with defectors from a North Carolina We the People group to form a new organization.

“There’s a lot of fighting, and everyone wants to be in charge, and that’s why you have so many splinter groups,” said ex-treasurer Janet Spencer, who charged her adversaries within the tea party with saying “derogatory things about me that were very unprofessional.”

She said her new group, called Patriotic Voices of America/Carolina Patriots, counts about 100 members and will not coordinate with the Myrtle Beach Tea Party, whose treasurer, David Ognek, said the friction is “just group dynamics.”

In Texas, a handful of thriving tea party groups severed their ties from the national Tea Party Patriots group after it ousted, then sued a founding board member who had affiliated with a rival group called the Tea Party Express.

“Our fight is in Congress and not with each other or with these other groups,” said Toby Marie Walker, who was the Texas state coordinator for the Tea Party Patriots and also co-founded the Waco, Texas, tea party.

This Waco group recently drew an estimated 4,000 people to a rally it organized with the Tea Party Express, which travels the country hosting rallies. The month before, it had pulled out of the Tea Party Patriots after the Patriots group accused the Tea Party Express of steering the movement away from nonpartisan issue-based advocacy, embracing extremist rhetoric and raising questions about the Express’s finances.

The Patriots’ attack and lawsuit worried the Waco group’s board, Walker said, because “if you align yourself with someone who is going to be that malicious, then how do we know they won’t turn on us?”

Other local tea party groups, though, cast their lots with the Patriots, heeding the group’s call to disassociate with the Tea Party Express.

In Granbury, Texas, local tea party organizer Josh Sullivan says he believes the movement’s effectiveness is being compromised by extremism.“You have some interesting folks in the Tea Party movement — some of them I can support, but some of them are kind of out there and radical, and I don’t want to associate myself with them,” he said. In Northern Colorado, meanwhile, a handful of active 9/12 groups — named for the Glenn Beck-encouraged effort to stage the Sept. 12 Washington march — are unhappy with the state 9/12 group’s aversion to fundraising and with its focus on national issues and have discussed forming their own rival statewide group.

“People are beginning to become a little bit de-energized — they’re starting to feel like they’re fighting a losing battle, because we send a lot of letters into Washington, D.C., and things like that, and people are saying they’re not listening,” said Brian Britton, who heads the Greeley, Colo., 9/12 group.

That fear is echoed by Glenn Galls, a Hot Springs, Ark., tea party organizer frustrated with the focus of Arkansas’s state-level tea party groups on national races and issues such as cap and trade and health care.

“If the tea party movement is going to continue to thrive and to grow and to have influence,” he said, “it must start coming together and coalescing and finding its purpose in life, because if it doesn’t, the excitement will fade like it does from anything else.”

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  • Tellicorick

    This is Politico’s wish, but then again these cocksuckers believe in the tooth fairy and universal health care! They are just out there spewing their brand of hatred while we grow stronger and stronger.

  • MinneSoCold

    As much as Politico hopes to spin it, the tea party movement groups all have a single, simple goal at remains the same and unites us all. There are many issues before the American people right now, all put there on purpose, to overwhelm opposition. But they are all stem from the same root problem. We may have different ideas of how to do things, which is good, but it will not stop movement.

  • DC

    Wishful thinking!

    Nice try, Politico! :roll:

  • Sully

    To Barry cock-suckers, like Politico, that share His presupposition that Central Planning and Community Organization = Utopia, this propaganda is mild.
    The very thought of ‘individualism’ makes their head explode all over the internet.
    Hmm… I wish that last sentence wasn’t figurative.

  • http://patricksworld.webs.com/medialies.htm ReaganTMan

    We don’t believe the media anymore. Write all you want, Politico. We just gave up listening, that’s all.

  • Moultrie

    Politico is nothing more tha an online Washington Post…they do suck bad!

  • Kirk

    Divide & Conquer strategy. Obviously, they hope to play us for fools.

  • Richwilloughby

    A typical left wing diatribe trying to sow discontent in the tea party movement. The communists cannot tolerate individual thought. All must march in lock-step to the gulag. It is individuality that makes the tea party movement strong.
    The liberal left cannot understand people not having a leader to direct them to a common goal. A prime example of group-think is the present day democrat party.

  • Nanny

    The Charlie Manson look alike reporter from Politico was on Morning Joe talking about this. I can’t believe how fucking stupid this guy is and he is supposed to be a journalist. He was making statements about how disorganized the whole tea party thingy is – DUH! We are every day people, hard working people letting our voice be heard we are not an organized political party for cripes sake! It’s “We The People” – all walks of life letting our government know we have had enough! And these fucking idiots can’t figure that out. What a waste of time and money going to college there Charley! Go look into the boondogle that is health care being paraded around by the dip shits in Congress you should be able to find a story or two there about disorganization! Fuck you Politico!

  • CPLViper

    You know … there were many disagreements when writing the Constitution too. That didn’t hamper the outcome and neither will any debate between these groups of patriots.

    • mike3481

      :beer:

    • RexRedbone

      American Majority, a nonprofit that has conducted organizer-training sessions for many tea party activists, said “the next three to six months” are going to be critical in determining “what’s going to happen with the tea party movement. Are they going to be a bunch of fingers, or are they going to come together to be a fist
      I urge everyone to sign up for a online class or attend http://www.americanmajority.org/ its tme to get behind these different orgs and push them in the right direction

  • http://stlouisteaparty.com Bill Hennessy

    Are you kidding me? The Tea Party movement isn’t dead . . . it hasn’t even hit puberty!

    Wait to see what happens at the St. Louis Tea Party on November 28 from Noon to 4:00. A line-up that’ll that scare yesterday’s sushi out of the commies in St. Louis.

    Remember St. Louis, November 28, Noon CST. It will be GROUND ZERO of the fight against the left.

  • MIDTN

    Politco usingg the undermining bit again.

    Been there, read it before assholes.

    Get some new propoganda.

    NEXT

  • Cold Dead Hands

    The silent schism is this: some tea-partiers still believe that marching with signs and banners is the way to go about reclaiming our country, while others believe that marching with rifles and bayonets is the answer.

    • punisher55

      I’m for the rifles and bayonets , libtards don’t listen to us and won’t listen to us, in fact they refuse to listen to us! Whats a patriot to do??

    • More than Duty

      True statement, but the Republican Lites have funded money into the program, while Fox has led the Coverage. These people are in bed with the same people as the Democrats. They will rally around the Globalist Socialism before they ever fully support their constituents. One time in the United States, as the founding fathers intended it, people went to the capitial with any kind of weapons they had and scared the or dealt with Elite scum bags. Now, Hamiltonian globalist will label you a terrorist and stick you in a cell next to Osama Bin Laden. Step in the way and you become the enemy, no matter what you did in Iraq, military or college. You would be playing with fire and these people control the gas . Check these video out.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3jKB6_tVpQ
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh4JHB3yo0s

  • wisconsin mom

    Can’t remember which group I got it from but one of the founding members was being sued by the current leaders. They wouldn’t give any details as it was going thru court.

  • http://eartlink@net nomee1

    they are just trying to sway public oppinon aginst those of us, whom are not happy with their form of gov, they do not realize that it is most of us.

  • Tom in CO

    This is why I can’t get behind the tea parties as long they are hijacked by the ronulans. It’s a good idea in principle, though.

  • unkaglen

    Say what they might,sane American’s and the TEA party movement are united against everything and anything this Democrat controled gov. is trying force down the throats of all freedom loving Americans.We will not rest until all of these Marxist have been disposed of.

  • JJIrons

    Politico’s nuts. They wish. They lie. They suck.

  • jasjfarrell

    I heard that the writers at politico were turning on one another. Stealing each others pens and lunches.