The fraud that has taken place has caused thinking people to take a collective deep breath and realize that we are in uncharted waters.
I for one am praying for a peaceful resolution but am resolute in not allowing this to linger.
We are in a battle of the eternal war between good and evil. We can do no less than everything and I mean everything to restore a legal government to our republic.
When I was a young man I took an oath and was instructed that it was a crime legally and morally to follow an unlawful order. By definition everything a usurper does is unlawful. So where does that leave us?
we are in a grave circumstance and it may be that all options bear risk without clear positive outcomes. So be it. I will perish as a free citizen, not live as a subject of a criminal enterprise.
This was thrust upon us, We can only respond, the fault lies with the criminals and the mindless masses who enable them.
Our duty is clear but that does not mean it will be pleasant or easy.
Yes, it’s divisive, as it should be, like the difference between night and day. They would like nothing better than to browbeat the car dealer into backing down. They also played the race card, everything, but stick to the facts, as his billboard strikes a nerve at the crux of the problem: birth certificate? Prove it!
Obama Birth Certificate 11/5/09 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baVFhC-_oKM
I don’t mind the billboard, but once again folks . . . the birth certificate is Obama’s red herring. It’s a complete distraction, and he knows it. The real question - the one that nobody in the media wants to ask is:
“Mr. Obama, if the 14th Amendment can’t make someone a “natural born citizen” because that designation, for purposes of Art. 2, Section 1, Clause 5, is something that takes place at one’s birth, then how do you maintain that you are a “natural born citizen” per A2S5C1 of the US Constitution if your father was a Kenyan national and British citizen at your birth? Doesn’t this result in you having “dual citizenship” and therefore potential “dual loyalties” that the Framers of our US Constitution took great pains to guard against by requiring that all U.S. Citizens (excluding the Framers and those born before effective date of the US Constitution) holding the office of U.S. President must be a “natural born citizen”?
Riddle me that one Mr. Obama.
Hold fast Birthers. The time is drawing near. The GOP machine is well aware of this fatal flaw. But it does no good to remove the usurper now. Wait. Wait for the Dems to pass Universal Healthcare. Wait for them to pass Cap & Trade. Wait for several more liberal US Supreme Court justices to retire when they think it is “safe” because Mr. Obama will appoint another ulta-liberal replacement. Wait until after 2010 when the GOP has given them enough rope to hang themselves with the decisions that they have made these past 24 months and they lose the super majority in the Senate. THEN, and only then, will the GOP heavy hitters bring out the hammer and finish the usurper. They will ask the courts to define “natural born citizen” and it will be determined that Mr. Obama does not meet the Constitution requirement. No riots will occur because Mr. Obama approval rating will be somewhere around 30% by this time. The result will be the removal of Mr. Obama and a revocation of all legislation and judicial appointments and treaties that Mr. Obama has enacted or signed. At this point, Mr. Biden will have to take over until a special election can be had per the Constitution, but he and the Dems in Congress will not be able to once again pass Health Care or Cap & Trade or get approval of liberal judicial appointments because the House will be much closer to a 50/50 split and the Dems will no longer be able to use a super majority to circumvent the GOP opposition.
This day is coming in early 2011. Do not think that the likes of Karl Rove and Dick Cheney are not fully aware of this. They are just sitting back and waiting. Letting all of the liberal/socialist/marxist cockroaches come out of the woodwork thinking that “now is the time” that we fundamentally change the U.S. Then Karl Rove shows up with the can of Raid Bug Spray to finsih them off for the next 90 years. There is a reason why Rush, Hannity, Beck, O’Riley, Laura Ingraham, etc. aren’t talking about this or simply dismissing it. They have their marching orders - which is “DO NOT” push for Obama’s removal or question his eligibility until after the 2010 elections when the GOP is back in a position of power in Congress. Do it too early and Joe Biden can just re-sign off on everything that Mr. Obama did after they run it back through the Dem lead House and super-majority Senate. Can’t do that after 2010 when the GOP has its filibuster powers back.
Just suck it up for another 12 months. The end-game is near.
By then, we will probably be in Nancy’s fema camp for not paying the “health-care” extortion. Wake-up buddy, and think about the children to be aborted by then, or the elderly to die for lack of proper medical care because they didn’t “qualify”, or the numbers of us that might stroke out because of the pressure. Some things just can’t wait…
The British obtained the Nazi Enigma code during WWII and shared it with us. We knew what the Germans were going to do in certain situations based on our interception of their trasmissions. So then the question was “When to use it?” Do we see a situation where a small unit of men is going to be overrun by a Panzer division and send in reinforcements to save 40 lives but potentionally tip our hand that we have broken their code? Do we use it to save 100 lives? 500 lives? Or do we save it to WIN THE WAR?
I’m glad did have to make those calls. Just like now, do you remove Obama now just to have him replaced with another liberal who is going to do almost the exact same thing (alhtough I don’t know how they could find anyone worse regarding foreign policy and the treatment of our men and women in uniform). Or do you wait (but not wait too long) to end this once and for all?
Regardless of when Obama is removed - I agree with all of the above posters that Obama is not the problem. He is just a puppet. We are going to have to clean out Congress and hit the restart button to truly get our great country back. I hold the Republicans and RINO’s just as responsible for the mess that we are in today - but I’m all for any plan to uphold the U.S. Constitution, even if it meant removing an ineligible Republican president.
The riots would improve the landscape and demographics in all the inner cities.Go for it homeboys! Then come on out to the country for some fresh air, motherfuckers..
Point well taken, particularly, the integrity of your last statement, which is more than I can say by the tacit approval by our reps, for the current situation.
What the fuck is a Muslim American? Thats just like saying Catholic American or Baptist American. I don’t think we ARE being invaded now. The invasion began a long time ago. As for Obama being a jihadist….does a bear shit in the woods?
I called the number on the billboard.Had a nice talk with the girl who answered.Told her/them to “never surrender”,don’t back down,etc. She said they weren’t about to and how much she appreciated the call. I suggest EVERYONE do the same.They need to know folks are behind them. Mabey more bilboards will pop up,noumsain?
Though I do not give the “Birther” movement any credence, the man has every right to post that sign on his property, regardless of anyone’s feelings toward it.
Notice how quickly those who were offended by the sign (most likely, Obama supporters and Democrats) were so quick to imply that the car dealer owner’s Constiutional Rights should be obliterated - what a bunch of hypocritical fuck sticks
This is how Obama plans to TAKE away our Constitutional Rights!!!! And when he goes to Copenhegan he will sign a TREATY that will do just that… TAKE AWAY OUR SECOND AMMENDMENT!
Obama may put Americans under world judges’ power
International Criminal Court issues are focus of delegation to The Hague
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Posted: November 19, 2009
9:00 pm Eastern
President Obama has dispatched a delegation this week to The Hague to explore issues involving the United States’ possible participation in the International Criminal Court, an organization critics charge could be used to prosecute Americans under international legal standards for actions that are not crimes in the U.S.
Andy Laney of the U.S. State Department confirmed the delegation is comprised of members of the State Department as well as the Defense Department. He said they were dispatched on a weeklong trip because of U.S. concerns over how “aggression” is defined internationally.
“There is an interagency party, half from the State Department, half from the Defense Department, there to engage other delegations on matters of U.S. interest and specifically over our concerns on the definition of the crime of aggression,” he said.
Critics, however, warn that they believe former U.S. war crimes prosecutor Ambassador Stephen Rapp is on a trip that involves more than just the definition of a word.
“The Obama administration would like the U.S. to be a party to the court,” said Brett Schaefer, an international regulatory expert with the Heritage Foundation.
(Story continues below)
“The Obama administration would like to establish closer ties with the ICC if it turns out the U.S. can join the court. The objective here is to address the major objections to the U.S. joining the court,” he said.
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White House officials declined to comment.
The court was introduced to the U.S. when President Bill Clinton signed the Rome Statute in 1998. But President George W. Bush pulled the U.S. out in 2003 over concerns that the ICC might prosecute American soldiers for war-crime charges coming from the U.S. campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The concern was that the ICC doesn’t recognize many of the U.S. Constitution’s provisions protecting defendants in criminal trials, such as the right to a trial by jury and protections against double jeopardy.
“The meeting at The Hague is also in preparation for the Rome Statute’s review in May of 2010,” Schaefer said. “Mr. Rapp is there to find out if (the 108) member states are interested in amending the document to address U.S. concerns. Ambassador Rapp is there to learn how substantial the barriers to the U.S. joining the court actually are.”
Laney admitted it was a change in U.S. direction that prompted the trip.
“The decision to send Ambassador Rapp reflects the commitment of this administration to engage the international community on issues that affect our foreign policy interests,” Laney said.
“Ambassador Rapp says he wants the U.S. to join the ICC. Since coming into office, President Obama says he wants the U.S. to join and Secretary of State Clinton says it’s unfortunate that the U.S. is not a part of the ICC,” Schaefer said.
“The previous administration in its early years sought to amend the treaty to alleviate U.S. concerns … the treaty would intrude on U.S. policy and its obligations overseas,” Schaefer said. “That effort failed. So, the Bush Administration in 2003 sent a letter to the Secretary General of the U.N. saying it no longer considered itself bound to the jurisdiction of the ICC.”
Schaefer said the process as it now is set up presents dangers.
“Israel took action in Gaza earlier this year to attack Hamas and knock out the Hamas rocket launchers in the Gaza Strip,” he said. “Israel took enormous cautionary measures to prevent civilian casualties. Even though Israel and the Palestinian Authority are not signatory members of the ICC, the ICC is still investigating the Israeli military to see if they can prosecute members of the Israeli Army for war crimes.”
Mathew Staver, lead attorney for Liberty Counsel and dean of Liberty University Law School, said U.S. membership in the ICC would be a mistake.
“This administration is globalist and transnationalist and wants to bring this country into the global system. The U.S. stands to have its citizens being prosecuted by the international court in The Hague and have its citizens come under the world court’s jurisdiction,” he said.
Schaefer confirmed Staver’s fears.
“Supposing the U.S. engages in a military action and that action results in civilian casualties. We do an investigation of the matter and find no guilty party. If we are a member of the court, if we are a party to the Rome Statute, the ICC at that point has the opportunity to second-guess us,” he said. “They may be able to use evidence and they may be able to pursue routes of trial that would not be portable in the U.S. because of the different standards established in the U.S. legal system and the rules set forth in the Rome Statute.”
His warning is that the ICC could, “in essence … come and prosecute U.S. citizens, U.S. soldiers, U.S. officials for actions the U.S. deems entirely lawful.”
He believes the Obama White House will begin the push for ratification after the May 2010 review of the treaty.
“After the May review is when I believe the administration will seek to go to Congress to make the changes in our system necessary that will allow us to participate in the ICC,” he said.
Staver said Americans should be worried.
“Everything anyone has ever heard about the globalist system is being promoted by this administration,” he said. “President Obama definitely wants the U.S. to be a part of a transnational, global system.”
WND columnist David Limbaugh has raised similar concerns.
“Transnationalists,” he wrote, “believe that American judges, in interpreting our Constitution, can resort to this ‘community of reason’ (foreign laws) to choose between two ‘plausible’ legal positions.”
It is the global community, he wrote, that such transnationalists “look to” to determine standards.
In his book, “Global Deception,” author Joseph Klein warns that the International Criminal Court is just one building block of a “brave new world” already under way.
He said the court would have “secret proceedings that would make terrorist trials look open by comparison” and suggested the plan is for them to “take precedence over the U.S. judicial system.”
Were you all aware that the officer who shot the troops at Ft. Hood was on the list of advisers for Obama’s
Homeland Security Board?
I tooo believe he is not an american but to impeach him now would put Biden in and i am not sure he can handle it.
I just know we need to pray and pray hard!
Right-On!
The fraud that has taken place has caused thinking people to take a collective deep breath and realize that we are in uncharted waters.
I for one am praying for a peaceful resolution but am resolute in not allowing this to linger.
We are in a battle of the eternal war between good and evil. We can do no less than everything and I mean everything to restore a legal government to our republic.
When I was a young man I took an oath and was instructed that it was a crime legally and morally to follow an unlawful order. By definition everything a usurper does is unlawful. So where does that leave us?
we are in a grave circumstance and it may be that all options bear risk without clear positive outcomes. So be it. I will perish as a free citizen, not live as a subject of a criminal enterprise.
This was thrust upon us, We can only respond, the fault lies with the criminals and the mindless masses who enable them.
Our duty is clear but that does not mean it will be pleasant or easy.
Nor should it be pleasant … especially for those who are perpetrating this treason on our republic or the dumbasses aiding and abetting.
Very well thought out and stated. I whole-heartedly concur. Thank you for sharing your conscience.
Yes, it’s divisive, as it should be, like the difference between night and day. They would like nothing better than to browbeat the car dealer into backing down. They also played the race card, everything, but stick to the facts, as his billboard strikes a nerve at the crux of the problem: birth certificate? Prove it!
Obama Birth Certificate 11/5/09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baVFhC-_oKM
I don’t mind the billboard, but once again folks . . . the birth certificate is Obama’s red herring. It’s a complete distraction, and he knows it. The real question - the one that nobody in the media wants to ask is:
“Mr. Obama, if the 14th Amendment can’t make someone a “natural born citizen” because that designation, for purposes of Art. 2, Section 1, Clause 5, is something that takes place at one’s birth, then how do you maintain that you are a “natural born citizen” per A2S5C1 of the US Constitution if your father was a Kenyan national and British citizen at your birth? Doesn’t this result in you having “dual citizenship” and therefore potential “dual loyalties” that the Framers of our US Constitution took great pains to guard against by requiring that all U.S. Citizens (excluding the Framers and those born before effective date of the US Constitution) holding the office of U.S. President must be a “natural born citizen”?
Riddle me that one Mr. Obama.
Hold fast Birthers. The time is drawing near. The GOP machine is well aware of this fatal flaw. But it does no good to remove the usurper now. Wait. Wait for the Dems to pass Universal Healthcare. Wait for them to pass Cap & Trade. Wait for several more liberal US Supreme Court justices to retire when they think it is “safe” because Mr. Obama will appoint another ulta-liberal replacement. Wait until after 2010 when the GOP has given them enough rope to hang themselves with the decisions that they have made these past 24 months and they lose the super majority in the Senate. THEN, and only then, will the GOP heavy hitters bring out the hammer and finish the usurper. They will ask the courts to define “natural born citizen” and it will be determined that Mr. Obama does not meet the Constitution requirement. No riots will occur because Mr. Obama approval rating will be somewhere around 30% by this time. The result will be the removal of Mr. Obama and a revocation of all legislation and judicial appointments and treaties that Mr. Obama has enacted or signed. At this point, Mr. Biden will have to take over until a special election can be had per the Constitution, but he and the Dems in Congress will not be able to once again pass Health Care or Cap & Trade or get approval of liberal judicial appointments because the House will be much closer to a 50/50 split and the Dems will no longer be able to use a super majority to circumvent the GOP opposition.
This day is coming in early 2011. Do not think that the likes of Karl Rove and Dick Cheney are not fully aware of this. They are just sitting back and waiting. Letting all of the liberal/socialist/marxist cockroaches come out of the woodwork thinking that “now is the time” that we fundamentally change the U.S. Then Karl Rove shows up with the can of Raid Bug Spray to finsih them off for the next 90 years. There is a reason why Rush, Hannity, Beck, O’Riley, Laura Ingraham, etc. aren’t talking about this or simply dismissing it. They have their marching orders - which is “DO NOT” push for Obama’s removal or question his eligibility until after the 2010 elections when the GOP is back in a position of power in Congress. Do it too early and Joe Biden can just re-sign off on everything that Mr. Obama did after they run it back through the Dem lead House and super-majority Senate. Can’t do that after 2010 when the GOP has its filibuster powers back.
Just suck it up for another 12 months. The end-game is near.
are you awake from your dream yet. rove is going to help, your kidding.rove is a dope and can’t be trusted.
That is an interesting analysis.
I interpret your reference to Rove as a satire of the loony left and their imaginary Rovian conspiracies.
By then, we will probably be in Nancy’s fema camp for not paying the “health-care” extortion. Wake-up buddy, and think about the children to be aborted by then, or the elderly to die for lack of proper medical care because they didn’t “qualify”, or the numbers of us that might stroke out because of the pressure. Some things just can’t wait…
Wait for our country to get destroyed!? I don’t think so. Like Killczar said, I think you are living in a dream. We need to act now!
The British obtained the Nazi Enigma code during WWII and shared it with us. We knew what the Germans were going to do in certain situations based on our interception of their trasmissions. So then the question was “When to use it?” Do we see a situation where a small unit of men is going to be overrun by a Panzer division and send in reinforcements to save 40 lives but potentionally tip our hand that we have broken their code? Do we use it to save 100 lives? 500 lives? Or do we save it to WIN THE WAR?
I’m glad did have to make those calls. Just like now, do you remove Obama now just to have him replaced with another liberal who is going to do almost the exact same thing (alhtough I don’t know how they could find anyone worse regarding foreign policy and the treatment of our men and women in uniform). Or do you wait (but not wait too long) to end this once and for all?
Regardless of when Obama is removed - I agree with all of the above posters that Obama is not the problem. He is just a puppet. We are going to have to clean out Congress and hit the restart button to truly get our great country back. I hold the Republicans and RINO’s just as responsible for the mess that we are in today - but I’m all for any plan to uphold the U.S. Constitution, even if it meant removing an ineligible Republican president.
The riots would improve the landscape and demographics in all the inner cities.Go for it homeboys! Then come on out to the country for some fresh air, motherfuckers..
Point well taken, particularly, the integrity of your last statement, which is more than I can say by the tacit approval by our reps, for the current situation.
By the way, it was the Poles, not the Brits who cracked the enigma code.
As my Pastor says, “We are being invaded” and people don’t realize that!!
What the fuck is a Muslim American? Thats just like saying Catholic American or Baptist American. I don’t think we ARE being invaded now. The invasion began a long time ago. As for Obama being a jihadist….does a bear shit in the woods?
I called the number on the billboard.Had a nice talk with the girl who answered.Told her/them to “never surrender”,don’t back down,etc. She said they weren’t about to and how much she appreciated the call. I suggest EVERYONE do the same.They need to know folks are behind them. Mabey more bilboards will pop up,noumsain?
Though I do not give the “Birther” movement any credence, the man has every right to post that sign on his property, regardless of anyone’s feelings toward it.
Notice how quickly those who were offended by the sign (most likely, Obama supporters and Democrats) were so quick to imply that the car dealer owner’s Constiutional Rights should be obliterated - what a bunch of hypocritical fuck sticks
Why don’t you give the “birther movement” any credence? Have you been duped by the COLB and”obama says it I believe it” kool-aid?
This is how Obama plans to TAKE away our Constitutional Rights!!!! And when he goes to Copenhegan he will sign a TREATY that will do just that… TAKE AWAY OUR SECOND AMMENDMENT!
Obama may put Americans under world judges’ power
International Criminal Court issues are focus of delegation to The Hague
——————————————————————————–
Posted: November 19, 2009
9:00 pm Eastern
By Michael Carl
© 2009 WorldNetDaily
International Criminal Court
President Obama has dispatched a delegation this week to The Hague to explore issues involving the United States’ possible participation in the International Criminal Court, an organization critics charge could be used to prosecute Americans under international legal standards for actions that are not crimes in the U.S.
Andy Laney of the U.S. State Department confirmed the delegation is comprised of members of the State Department as well as the Defense Department. He said they were dispatched on a weeklong trip because of U.S. concerns over how “aggression” is defined internationally.
“There is an interagency party, half from the State Department, half from the Defense Department, there to engage other delegations on matters of U.S. interest and specifically over our concerns on the definition of the crime of aggression,” he said.
Critics, however, warn that they believe former U.S. war crimes prosecutor Ambassador Stephen Rapp is on a trip that involves more than just the definition of a word.
“The Obama administration would like the U.S. to be a party to the court,” said Brett Schaefer, an international regulatory expert with the Heritage Foundation.
(Story continues below)
“The Obama administration would like to establish closer ties with the ICC if it turns out the U.S. can join the court. The objective here is to address the major objections to the U.S. joining the court,” he said.
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White House officials declined to comment.
The court was introduced to the U.S. when President Bill Clinton signed the Rome Statute in 1998. But President George W. Bush pulled the U.S. out in 2003 over concerns that the ICC might prosecute American soldiers for war-crime charges coming from the U.S. campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The concern was that the ICC doesn’t recognize many of the U.S. Constitution’s provisions protecting defendants in criminal trials, such as the right to a trial by jury and protections against double jeopardy.
“The meeting at The Hague is also in preparation for the Rome Statute’s review in May of 2010,” Schaefer said. “Mr. Rapp is there to find out if (the 108) member states are interested in amending the document to address U.S. concerns. Ambassador Rapp is there to learn how substantial the barriers to the U.S. joining the court actually are.”
Laney admitted it was a change in U.S. direction that prompted the trip.
“The decision to send Ambassador Rapp reflects the commitment of this administration to engage the international community on issues that affect our foreign policy interests,” Laney said.
“Ambassador Rapp says he wants the U.S. to join the ICC. Since coming into office, President Obama says he wants the U.S. to join and Secretary of State Clinton says it’s unfortunate that the U.S. is not a part of the ICC,” Schaefer said.
“The previous administration in its early years sought to amend the treaty to alleviate U.S. concerns … the treaty would intrude on U.S. policy and its obligations overseas,” Schaefer said. “That effort failed. So, the Bush Administration in 2003 sent a letter to the Secretary General of the U.N. saying it no longer considered itself bound to the jurisdiction of the ICC.”
Schaefer said the process as it now is set up presents dangers.
“Israel took action in Gaza earlier this year to attack Hamas and knock out the Hamas rocket launchers in the Gaza Strip,” he said. “Israel took enormous cautionary measures to prevent civilian casualties. Even though Israel and the Palestinian Authority are not signatory members of the ICC, the ICC is still investigating the Israeli military to see if they can prosecute members of the Israeli Army for war crimes.”
Mathew Staver, lead attorney for Liberty Counsel and dean of Liberty University Law School, said U.S. membership in the ICC would be a mistake.
“This administration is globalist and transnationalist and wants to bring this country into the global system. The U.S. stands to have its citizens being prosecuted by the international court in The Hague and have its citizens come under the world court’s jurisdiction,” he said.
Schaefer confirmed Staver’s fears.
“Supposing the U.S. engages in a military action and that action results in civilian casualties. We do an investigation of the matter and find no guilty party. If we are a member of the court, if we are a party to the Rome Statute, the ICC at that point has the opportunity to second-guess us,” he said. “They may be able to use evidence and they may be able to pursue routes of trial that would not be portable in the U.S. because of the different standards established in the U.S. legal system and the rules set forth in the Rome Statute.”
His warning is that the ICC could, “in essence … come and prosecute U.S. citizens, U.S. soldiers, U.S. officials for actions the U.S. deems entirely lawful.”
He believes the Obama White House will begin the push for ratification after the May 2010 review of the treaty.
“After the May review is when I believe the administration will seek to go to Congress to make the changes in our system necessary that will allow us to participate in the ICC,” he said.
Staver said Americans should be worried.
“Everything anyone has ever heard about the globalist system is being promoted by this administration,” he said. “President Obama definitely wants the U.S. to be a part of a transnational, global system.”
WND columnist David Limbaugh has raised similar concerns.
“Transnationalists,” he wrote, “believe that American judges, in interpreting our Constitution, can resort to this ‘community of reason’ (foreign laws) to choose between two ‘plausible’ legal positions.”
It is the global community, he wrote, that such transnationalists “look to” to determine standards.
In his book, “Global Deception,” author Joseph Klein warns that the International Criminal Court is just one building block of a “brave new world” already under way.
He said the court would have “secret proceedings that would make terrorist trials look open by comparison” and suggested the plan is for them to “take precedence over the U.S. judicial system.”
Were you all aware that the officer who shot the troops at Ft. Hood was on the list of advisers for Obama’s
Homeland Security Board?
I tooo believe he is not an american but to impeach him now would put Biden in and i am not sure he can handle it.
I just know we need to pray and pray hard!