New Ultra-Lib Fad: Abolish The Senate

December 16th, 2009 (15) Posted By Pat Dollard.

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“There’s A Senate In Our Way… Kill It!”

The Washington Examiner:

In recent months, a narrative has emerged on the Left regarding the cause of the health care debacle: It’s all the fault of the United States Senate, a perverse, bizarre and dysfunctional body, which ought to be phased out or killed.

To E.J. Dionne, it’s an absurd institution, the “least democratic … body” in any democracy, that has tied up the country in gut-grinding gridlock to the public’s unending dismay. “Normal human beings … real Americans — cannot understand why, 10 months after Obama took office, Congress is still tied down in a procedural torture chamber trying to pass the health care bill Obama promised in his campaign.”

Alec MacGillis called it “the chamber designed to thwart popular will,” the saucer in which the coffee not only is cooled (in the words of George Washington) but often turns bitter and cold. Hendrik Hertzberg calls it the place where the hopes and dreams of “Obama mania” go to die at the hands of a small band of soreheads who have the power to stifle the will of the people. “If it weren’t for the Senate,” he says, more in sorrow, “you’d have a whole lot of accomplishments on the domestic front.”

Exactly. It takes a perverse form of genius to talk about thwarting the will of the people when polls show most of the people prefer to have Congress do nothing, but they go on with great verve.

To John Heilemann in New York, “a tiny band of verbose old folks” stand in the way of 300 million, all of them thirsting for the kind of solutions polls show two-thirds of them seem to detest.

“What precisely is the point of the United States Senate?” he asks us, suggesting there is none. “The attempt to push [the bill] through has revealed something important. … If a popular, shrewd president coupled with a Congress with a strong majority in both houses held by the president’s party can’t get its program passed no matter which party we’re talking about, something is structurally wrong.”

Actually, something is structurally wrong with the bill, which is a monstrosity that will increase costs while decreasing access and quality. The bill is so far to the Left, so expensive and so incoherent, it has justly unnerved a number of Democrats.

The president, as it turns out, is not all that shrewd and is no longer popular — he polls now somewhere in the mid-to-high 40s — largely because of this ill-conceived measure. This creates a vicious cycle: The bill pulls down the president, who, because he is down, can’t do much to save it. And the Democrats, whom he is asking to back it, don’t believe he help can them or can do much to save their own seats.

In the interim between late 2008 and last Tuesday, the public came back to its center-right moorings, a shift forced by exactly the sort of bold, sweeping, radical measures the Dionnes and the Hertzbergs want passed. The key numbers here are not the 60 instead of 51 votes that so obsess all these pundits, but the 61-39 count by which voters detest the health care reform bill, the 19 points by which Bob McDonnell trounced Creigh Deeds in Virginia, and the five points by which Chris Christie did the impossible in ousting New Jersey’s John Corzine, in one of the deepest blue states of them all.

The unnerved Democrats in the Senate who drive these pundits to tears by resisting the leadership are paying heed to these numbers, whose results, and not those of the 2008 “mandate,” are the most accurate measure of where the “will of the people” is now. The pundits keep referring back to the 2008 election as if it were yesterday, which is just what it is. The public has turned on Obama, his party and their schemes for the expensive expansion of government power.

“It’s a good thing for those pushing the health care overhaul in Congress that the American people don’t have a vote,” as pollster Peter Brown put it. The Senate now is the voice of the people, in giving it to them. And that’s what the pundits can’t stand.

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  • http://none WWTD

    A system of checks and balances. Different rules for the senate,where senators represent their state rather than a district. Three braches of government. The founding fathers thought they had it dialed in, but were counting on men with self respect, and a sense of honesty and respect for others. Then came the demonazi’s of today. Public school system…fail as planned.

    • Ivan the Kafir

      In all my study of government, “checks and balances” are precisely the measure of good government. Giving any political group dictatorial power is the VERY thing which democracy was formed to prevent! It does not matter if this dictatorial power refers to a party, an individual, a political body, a lobby, or a majority of the body politic, dictatorial power is still dictatorial power and will result in a political system which is wildly out of balance.

    • aboutTObegin

      why do you not think the reason obama fired the Inspector General? Why do you think he has all of his CZARS in the WH working for him that were not even approved by the American people? WHY do you think that since the Cap and Trade TAX/KILL American Energy bill is stalled and how obama circumvented that by regulating it via the EPA? There is no checks and balances anymore since we have a democrap controlled congress,senate, and white house? HOW do you not think they were able to put a racist female into the Supreme Court and WHAT do you think that will do in the future to ALL rulings? Especially if anymore justices leave and this kenyan puts more anti american racists in there? A TRUE Checks and Balances system would have checked this usurpers documentation from the get go and guess what, he would not be President today. There is no representation of the people and it is evident by the Federal Governments actions.

      -aTb
      Combat Veteran

  • Sully

    Progressivism defined right there. Popular elections and referenda they can rig.

    I’d be for abolishing the 17th Amendment.

    • John

      YES!!! The 17th Amendment must go. It would restore the REPUBLIC to the original intent the framers had. Anyone who thinks we are a democracy didnt sleep through the libereal brainwashing (AKA public school). Democracy is MOB rule….WE ARE A REPUBLIC!

      SULLY :beer: :beer:

  • TerryTate

    To E.J. Dionne, it’s an absurd institution, the “least democratic … body” in any democracy

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    Well, E.J. you ignorant cunt, since we aren’t a democracy, then maybe just maybe, you should realize that the Senate is there to protect the Republic against bad ideas like yours.

  • josephus

    Again, another example of the child-like mind of the Leftist. They are no different from the child in the shopping cart that wails when it doesn’t get the sugary cereal while sitting in the cereal aisle.

    And another example why these idiots get a short time to rule en masse before everyone wakes up and screams: “What have we done!”

    The Senate is stopping 300 million people? Try that again there Lefty. 300 million don’t support socialism. In fact, it’s probably fewer than 20% of the nation.

  • The Sentinel at the Gate

    Okay, why don’t you Marxists go ahead and abolish the established government and re-make it like you want it. And then several million gun owners will then be heard from when they melt the barrels down abolishing your sorry asses from the face of the earth.

    Just do it!

    • cold soldier

      :cool: :gun:

    • aboutTObegin

      actually more than that, but that would be the turning point which is what obama wants. Martial Law so that he can remake amerikka in his vision and destroy the greatest country the planet has ever seen. what a shame.

      -aTb

  • USNA1985

    I think the point that these Democrats and other leftist miss is the fact that the Amercian people do want healthcare reform, but the majority of Americans DO NOT want THIS particular healthcare reform. You see, that’s the game these Socialist play. They pervert the aggregate wishes of their constituency during the election, and use it as an excuse to advance their perverted agenda under the guise that ‘this is what the American people voted for’; when in fact this reasoning is very far from the truth.

    Ask anyone these 2 questions(and yes these are very simplistic):

    1. Are you in favor of healthcare reform? The majority will answer in the affirmative.

    2. Are you in favor of a government takeover of healthcare where goverment decisions are final? The majority will answer ‘go fuck yourself and the horse you rode in on’.

    The most disgraceful behavior of all comes from the so called free press (MSM) who refuse to ask the tough questions of ORP (Obama-Reid-Pelosi):

    1. Why not pass legislation to allow portablity? (This cost nothing to do)

    2. Why not address tort reform? (this also costs nothing, except campaign contributions of course)

    3. Adress those that are uninsured or need coverage between jobs (this cost less than 1 trillion dollar to be sure)

    My point is that there are prolly 1000 other No or Low cost ideas to address healthcare costs, but this goes against their ideology and promotes the concept of ‘free men’.

    The real villians in this whole episode are the MSM and their incompetence from start to finish. May God have mercy on your souls when you burn in hell for your purposeful misrepresentation of the truth!!

  • http://conservativegazette.com The Conservative Gazette

    They don’t need to abolish the senate. Obama already has a shadow government in place with the czars.

  • Sully

    ‘Abolishing the Senate’ is the way Barry thinks too.

    Remember Him doing His impression of Maxine Waters for us on national TV?
    ‘If you doctors and hospitals don’t stop ripping the tonsils out of 5 year olds or cuttin’ people’s feet off just to make a buck, I’ll nationalize you. Yeah that’s what I’ll do.’

  • Tom in CO

    Awww, poor liberals :(

  • Bobby E

    There are liberals in OUR way … it soon will be time to kill THEM.