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Reid Needs 60 Votes By Tomorrow And Lieberman’s Left Town!



Dec 18, 2009 22 Comments ›› Erik Wong

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The American Spectator:

If Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid hasn’t secured 60 votes by midnight Saturday, he won’t be able to meet the ambitious deadline of passing a health care bill on Christmas Eve.

The reason is that in order to trigger the chain of events leading to a Christmas Eve vote, Reid would have to file cloture on his “manager’s amendment” — containing all of his final negotiated changes to the bill — by the end of tomorrow.

Once Reid files that amendment, it will set up the key cloture vote on Monday at 1 a.m., requiring the support of 60 Senators to pass. While that would technically give him all of Sunday to win over Sen. Ben Nelson or any remaining holdouts, Reid would not be able to make any further changes to the bill in order to accommodate any Senator.

While a lot of people are focusing on Christmas Eve, the key vote will be that first cloture vote on Monday. If he gets 60 votes on that, the rest of the process will be a mere technicality.

So, while it sounds dramatic, the future of the nation’s health care system may be decided in the next 34 hours.

TPM:

As if Democrats didn’t have enough to worry about. Overnight and into tomorrow, Washington, D.C. is preparing for a major snow storm, complete with thunder and high winds. A winter snowpocalypse.

On any other weekend, that would be no biggy for Senate Democrats, but tomorrow, they need all hands on deck if they hope to keep on track to pass their health care bill by Christmas. And remember, they can’t afford a single slip-up.

So here’s another wrinkle: Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) has skipped town.

Already, they’ve wheeled in the cots for members and staff who choose to slumber party the night away in the Capitol, or Senate offices. But tomorrow, bright and early, all of them could need to be on hand for procedural reasons. For instance, Democrats expect to have to waive a budget point of order they expect Republicans to raise against the defense appropriations bill.

Potentially complicating matters, though is that Lieberman, who’s caused Democratic leadership no shortage of political heartburn on health care, isn’t even in town!

“After being assured by Democratic and Republican leaders that his vote was not needed to pass the Defense Appropriations bill, Senator Lieberman went to Connecticut to spend the Sabbath and the last night of Hanukkah with his wife, Hadassah, and their children and grandchildren,” reads a statement to TPMDC from Lieberman’s spokesman Marshall Wittmann.

That means Democrats will be relying on at least one Republican to help them get the defense bill over a procedural bump in order to push them back on to health care. They’re crossing their fingers.

But assuming they can get one vote, what happens if the snow keeps other members away? It could be a big problem. Leadership seemed confident earlier today that everybody would be present and accounted for tomorrow, and a bit surprised to learn that Lieberman had flown the coop. With all these added complications, don’t be surprised to hear a new Republican talking point: Even Mother Nature hates health care reform.


  • iggymom

    So that is why they’ve been huddled with Snowe!

  • CPLViper

    Snow should not have to be counted on to defeat this piece of shit bill. Over 60% of the nation hates this bill and it should be rewritten to actually achieve something more than a government power grab and hostile takeover of a big chunk of the GDP.

    Can someone answer something for me? This bill wants to use 10 years of taxes to pay for 7 years of healthcare insurance. What happens on year 8 when that 3 year buffer of money is gone? Where does the missing money come from to make up the difference? Nevermind … I know the answers to those questions and my conclusion is this healthcare insurance BULLSHIT has to stop.

    • NMPatriot

      We will be paying for the first 3 years of the plan with nothing in return, this IS Bullshit. Its also unconstitutional, the constitution garantees us Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, it does NOT garantee goods and services or entitlement programs. It’s another scam… money and power grab.
      Treasonous Fucking Thieves

    • David

      So congress cuts medicare payments so that the states have to pick up the balance? And that is not a tax increase? When will the public wake up? This gets congressional dems off the hook and shifts the burden/blame to the states that have to increase taxes. Good job, congressional dems.

  • http://none WWTD

    It’s a reboot. Nothing anymore is sustainable.

  • RD

    It’s Joe’s Fuck You for this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVRp52op918

  • Sully

    Barry is nothing if not the consummate idealogue and demagogue.
    This is ‘legacy’ Marxist/Progressive legislation…. No way Barry doesn’t pull out all the stops, tell any lie, pay any bribe, and/or throw whomever under the bus to make His vision of enslaving Actual Americans to Big Goverment Communism a reality.

  • YERMOM

    so are they going to force it to be read again?

    I sure hope so.

  • David

    I thought that “snow” was a play on words, as in Olympia Snowe, the rino from Maine. When will they wake up and see her for what she is?

  • YERMOM

    they are currently reading Reid’s amendment on the floor. and there are no democrats there.

  • Gary in Midwest

    Piece of shit Nelson folded!

    • CPLViper

      Nothing good will come of this.

  • westcoastgirl

    I have tears in my eyes as I read that Nelson sold out. I don’t want to see a civil war in our country, but the progressives have left us with no other option. God bless us all. I wish everyone a Merry Christmas. Spend time with your loved ones and enjoy each other this week. I have a feeling things are going to be getting very ugly very quickly.

  • westcoastgirl

    THE ORCS ARE AT THE DOOR OF HELM’S DEEP

  • MIDTN

    ……………..Fuck ‘em ALL!!!………………….

  • Sully

    Looks like they’ll get to 60.
    Barry pretty smug telling lies on TV right now.
    His Nebraska Purchase and His Second Louisiana Purchase were expensive but He got 58 other Senators at a discount so it’s actually a steal.

  • Gandalf

    Westcoast Girl -

    Be of stout heart m’lady this too will pass. Only 11 months until Mordor crumbles.

    • CPLViper

      Yeah but the only thing that is harder than passing shitty, freedom stealing legislation is repealing it.

  • http://patdollard.com Average Joe

    Still can’t understand why most of you don’t get it……..There will be no 2010 election. It is over. They have it all as a Marxist nation now.

    And we’re not doing shit about it. And we are TOO LATE to stop it.

  • J Griff

    I have a Question, Where do the 3-4 years worth of higher taxes for the payment of the healthcare bill go? Are they to be put in the same lockbox that Social Security is put in?? We all must be really stupid to even consider this crap. These thieves in Washington have NEVER run anything successfully in their lives. GW Bush was on the downside because of 250 Billion dollar deficits and Obambi gives us 3 Trillion in just 11 months — How do you you like that for Hope and Change!!
    Griff

    • CPLViper

      Exactly, they are suppossed to put it in a lockbox in order to pay the difference between what they are able to collect and what they will be spending for the 7 years of coverage.

      HAHAHAHAHA … we (Americans) are suckers, aren’t we? Falling for the same horseshit that was pulled on us with Social Security.

      I will bet, if this passes, both my balls that not one cent will be tucked away for the stated purpose. Then come 2013 or 2014, we will be hearing of another “Holy Shit, The Sky Is Falling!” crisis that will have to address the shortfall for the medical program, which will give the government another opportunity to steal more of our money and our freedom … then again, 7 years later, another crisis for rising costs.

      If we question it, we will get the (now) normal response of; “Sit down, shut up and be a good little slave.” which I feel some people are becoming accustomed to.