+$1,900,000,000,000: As The National Debt Skyrockets, So Does The Debt Limit

January 21st, 2010 (11) Posted By Erik Wong.

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WASHINGTON (AP) – Senate Democrats on Wednesday proposed allowing the federal government to borrow an additional $1.9 trillion to pay its bills, a record increase that would permit the national debt to reach $14.3 trillion.

The unpopular legislation is needed to allow the federal government to issue bonds to fund programs and prevent a first-time default on obligations. It promises to be a challenging debate for Democrats, who, as the party in power, hold the responsibility for passing the legislation.

It’s hardly the debate Democrats want or need in the wake of Sen.-elect Scott Brown’s victory in Massachusetts. Arguing over the debt limit provides a forum for Republicans to blame Democrats for rising deficits and spiraling debt, even though responsibility for the government’s financial straits can be shared by both political parties.

The measure came to the floor under rules requiring 60 votes to pass. That’s an unprecedented step that could mean that every Democrat, no matter how politically endangered, may have to vote for it next week before Brown takes office and Democrats lose their 60-vote majority.

Democratic leaders are also worried that Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind., who opposed the debt limit increase approved last month, will vote against the measure.

The record increase in the so-called debt limit is required because the budget deficit has spiraled out of control in the wake of a recession that cut tax revenues, the Wall Street bailout, and increased spending by the Democratic-controlled Congress. Last year’s deficit hit a phenomenal $1.4 trillion, and the current year’s deficit promises to be as high or higher.

Congress has never failed to increase the borrowing limit.

“We have gone to the restaurant. We have eaten the meal. Now the only question is whether we will pay the check,” said Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont. “We simply must do so.”

A White House policy statement said the increase “is critically important to make sure that financing of federal government operations can continue without interruption and that the creditworthiness of the United States is not called into question.”

Less than a decade ago, $1.9 trillion would have been enough to finance the operations and programs of the federal government for an entire year. Now, it’s only enough to make sure Democrats can avoid another vote before Election Day.

Republican Sen. John Thune of South Dakota immediately offered an amendment to end the bank and Wall Street bailout, officially known as the Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP. Thune would prohibit further expenditure of TARP funds and would require that all funds paid back be used to retire debt.

The latest increase comes on top of a stopgap $290 billion measure that cleared the Senate on Christmas Eve. Given the country’s finances, that measure would last only about six weeks, lawmakers said, requiring the far larger measure that’s pending.

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  • Reloader449

    We’ve debated here how exactly that this insanity will end, whether by elections, civil strife or communist victory, etc. Here is another: WHEN, not if, but WHEN the United States defaults on all of its debt, the world will descend into chaos and massive violence. Humans have not had a World War like this next one.

    But let’s not blame our representatives in gov’t, oh no. They are the Right Honorable Public Servants, paid well so as to attract the best talent.

    Who was that compassionate conservative who was saying recently that wishing them harm is bad, and beneath an American?

  • Xavier

    “The unpopular legislation is needed to allow the federal government to issue bonds to fund programs and prevent a first-time default on obligations.”

    Here’s an idea…STOP FKN SPENDING!!!

    Just like the jokers that came before them these jokers don’t give a damn about the best interest of America.

    Spend Spend Spend, eventually the economies of the world will cut America (the dollar) out of commerce all together and stop playing this game.

    If I recall there are already calls to replace the dollar as the standard oil currency.

  • Jim D

    One way or another the one will crush you.Bow to your emperor!

  • CPLViper

    The USS Ronald Reagan cost $4.5 Billion to build … $1.9 TRILLION … let’s see that would be 422 Nimitz Class Aircraft Carriers.

    Our population is about 300 Million people … $1.9 TRILLION … let’s see that is approximately $6,333 per person (no matter what age they are).

    Average price of a home in the US (overall and using the rounded up price) is about $175,000 … $1.9 TRILLION … let’s see that is over 10.8 MILLION fully paid homes.

    Let’s have some fun and figure out the interest on $1.9 TRILLION … say the US wanted to pay it off over 30 years … like a mortgage. Say the interest rate was 6% … The first month, the INTEREST is $9.5 BILLION. Let’s have some more fun $9.5 BILLION dollars (the interest of the first month) would fully pay for 54,285 average homes (@ $175,000 each).

    These MOTHER FUCKERS in our government throw these numbers around like it means NOTHING. There is a little perspective of what $1.9 TRILLION dollars buys. WHAT THE FUCK ARE THESE ASSHOLES THINKING ABOUT?!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • http://www.bootparkergriffith.com The Sentinel at the Gate

      Viper,

      $1.9 Trillion is a drop in the bucket when compared with the $74 Trillion “actual” debt. All too often our politicians speak to “Deficit” which is the number they Will talk about and not “Debt” which is the number they WILL NOT talk about.

      Because of the continual deficit spending (each and every fucking year since Andrew Jackson) our actual debt has risen to just under $75 Trillion. Various websites out there fully explain the DEBT, but you can find under some government websites with the truth as well.

      Let’s face the REAL FACTS – the US is without a doubt; B – R – O – K – Fucking E; broke! Congress is now mortgaging the future of our great grandchildren and quite possibly the generation after that.

      The only way to possibly sustain this insanitiy will be to devalue the dollar, thus bringing on $150 for a loaf of bread and $500 to $1000 a gallon for gas. I can’t remember the name of the African country which had a gigantic inflation, but that is where we are headed right now.

      The only way to get this monkey off our backs (under the current criminal regime) is currency devaluation. We are fucked!

      From here on out, our Congress needs to pay for the right to be there, as well as the president. Our government needs to operate as a charity organization who themselves take no salary. America’s jugular veins have been opened and we are just about dry.

    • Lone Wolf

      The debt limit discussed here is what we currently have to pay interest on. It’s in the form of Savings Bonds and T-bills held by us, foreigners, foreign governments, and the Social Security ‘trust’ fund. The total current liabilities (~$70T?) includes all of the projected future Social Security and Medicare payments to current citizens, so that depends on what we think those benefits will be. The current liabilities aren’t financed and will be paid (to some extent, at least) from future tax receipts. The point is that a bunch of the ‘current liabilities’ number is within our control and depends on what we say the benefits will be.

    • thrasymakhos

      Thanks Viper for the figures. I like your summation. They are totally out of control. I don’t know if we will have a country left before we can get them out. The last elections were a big mistake…freaking understatement. :evil: :gun:

  • http://www.bootparkergriffith.com The Sentinel at the Gate

    Perhaps anyone should read the following if they think that $14.3 Trillion deficit is sustainable:

    http://www.dennistubbergen.com/index.php/archives/301

    In essence, the trust funds you have today (Medicare, MediAid, Social Security) will in fact add to the national debt tomorrow as they have been continuously borrowed from and they DO count as a liability because we always rob Pedro to pay Paulie.

  • Lone Wolf

    Treasury Direct FAQ:
    http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/resources/faq/faq_publicdebt.htm
    Where you will find that you yourself can contribute to reducing the debt if you feel so inclined (and ironically – they take credit cards).

    If you go look at the Monthly Statements of the Public Debt (MSPD) and try to make some sense out of them, what is most alarming is that 25% of the marketable bonds (i.e. about $6.9T worth) has a 1 year or less maturity and 63% matures in 5 years or less. Only 10% of the debt is long term (10 and 20 yr). This means that most of this debt is short term and that we are continually refinancing it and rolling it over. If people decide to quit lending us money, or want a higher interest rate to do so because they’re not sure we’ll be able to repay it, our payments on the debt could go through the roof almost overnight.

    • thrasymakhos

      :shock: This whole country stands on a knife’s edge.

    • Lone Wolf

      Oops – 12.28% of the marketable debt is *20 and 30* year bonds, not 10 and 20. 68.05% is 7 year and less. Here’s the breakdown I extracted from their Dec 2009 Excel file for Primary Dealers:

      Term Value ($M) Fraction cumulative
      1 month 131,433 1.89% 0.0189
      1 quarter 386,017 5.55% 0.0744
      6 month 786,034 11.30% 0.1874
      1 year 489,996 7.05% 0.2579
      2 year 922,582 13.27% 0.3905
      3 year 301,728 4.34% 0.4339
      5 year 1,399,944 20.13% 0.6352
      7 year 314,629 4.52% 0.6805
      10 year 1,368,119 19.67% 0.8772
      20 year 94,268 1.36% 0.8908
      30 year 759,181 10.92% 1.0000

      Total $6,953,931M