Permanent Midnight

January 14th, 2010 (18) Posted By Pat Dollard.

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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Obama summoned House and Senate Democratic leaders to the White House late Thursday to discuss an apparent breakthrough in health care reform negotiations — on the make-or-break issue of taxing high-value health plans and other issues.

Obama began meeting with twelve top Democrats at 9 p.m., and the meeting has no scheduled end time. This comes after most of the same lawmakers spent more than eight hours at the White House on Wednesday trying to hammer out a deal.

After enduring months of criticism that he was too detached from negotiations — criticism mostly expressed in Democratic cloakrooms on Capitol Hill — Obama has jumped in with both feet. He has personalized a marathon push to land a health care deal this week or early next week, telling lawmakers and key stakeholders that he will not tolerate failure and that compromises, even hard ones, must be achieved on a tight schedule.

The breakthrough announced Thursday was a biproduct of the previous days talks: a deal on so-called “Cadillac” insurance plans. The White House and top union leaders heralded the agreement, which shields all union workers for five years from significant taxes on health benefit packages that non-union workers will face starting in 2013.

On Tuesday, Obama told union leaders who came to the White House to express their opposition to the excise taxes that they would not deter him and they must accept the tax in some form. Under those conditions, union leaders sought various exemptions, even though some in their membership adamantly opposed any tax on health benefits.

Republican critics called the union deal another back-room favor handed out in secret talks that violated Obama’s promise of transparency.

House leaders were intimately involved in two-days of wrangling with top blue-collar and public employee union leaders and with the White House over restructuring a Senate-passed 40 percent excise tax on high-priced health benefit plans. Union leaders complained the taxes would force their members to lose existing benefits or pay higher premiums.

Whether rank-and-file Democratic House members will accept the deal is another matter. Union backing improves the chances that most, if not all, of the full 256-member Democratic caucus will accept the arrangement, but a formal nose count has not been taken.

Other unresolved issues include abortion funding, the anti-trust exemption for insurers and the precise plan for formation of a health care exchange that will serve as a clearinghouse for consumers to purchase health coverage.

To buck up House Democrats, Obama offered a stirring defense of the party’s head-long push for health reform.

“I know how big a lift this has been, I see the polls,” Obama told House Democrats assembled for their annual issues conference. “I know that the virtues of this legislation … have been entirely obscured by fear and distraction.

“I also know what happens once we get this done,” he said. “The American people will suddenly learn that this bill does things they like and doesn’t do things that people have been trying to say it does. Their worst fears will prove groundless.”

Top union officials said newly drafted exemptions from their members will cut from the legislation $60 billion in projected revenue over 10 years. The White House said no official figure was available but did not suggest the union figure was inaccurate.

The Senate’s original tax was to raise $149 billion over 10 years. Cutting $60 billion from that figure would require negotiators to find revenue elsewhere. Neither union leaders nor the White House offered any specifics on replacement taxes under consideration.

Lawmakers have been eyeing applying Medicare payroll taxes to capital gains and other dividend income for annual incomes above $200,000 for individuals and $250,000 for families. The Senate bill already seeks to increase Medicare payroll taxes from 1.45 percent to 2.35 percent on individuals and joint-filers in those wealth categories.

The union deal exempts all workers covered by collective bargaining agreements from any excise tax on health benefits until 2018, five years later than non-union workers.

“Our people were very very pleased by it,” said Gerald McEntee, president of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees. “They’re ready to go out and fight for it and even improve it down line. We’re for this health care reform and ready to fight for it.”

Richard Trumka, president of the AFL-CIO called the excise the biggest hurdle for union support. Absent any last minute changes, Trumka said the AFL-CIO’s on board.

“We will endorse it and do it proudly,” Trumka said of the emerging health care bill.

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  • Melissa

    WTF. We The People… are getting screwed big time! I once worked for the union and my husband who is a carpenter worked under them years ago. They do NOTHING for their employees but take money and feed the Democrats.They did NOTHING for me and when my hubby got hurt on the job, they Blackballed him from the UNION! This is a replay of Carter years where, they would firebomb mom n pop stores because you would not hire union members, even when you didnt need any help or worked family!

    UNIONS SUCK!!!!!!!

    • thrasymakhos

      Let’s put these bastards out into the “permanent darkness” of political hell where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth. Let’s destroy at the ballot box the DEMONcrat party and their minions. Merciful heavens let it be done! Fight, Fight, Fight! Never, Never, Never, Surrender!

  • Paslode

    Geez, I feel so much better having an additional $320 taken out of my wifes paycheck….I better get the camping gear ready because we can’t afford it.

    With this legislation they will drive people out of private insurance and into unions, public insurance and the gutter.

    The bright spot is that in the end everyone will get screwed, even those at present suckle Obama.

  • Sully

    Um… I thought the deed was done earlier today.
    Are they staying up late to devise their SCOTUS strategy?

    If He really does “see the polls”, He’s still got huge problems in His own Party.

    The Marxists ‘bill’ nationalizes health care and health insurance and mandates that I go along.
    In what way is that basic “fear” “groundless”?

    Barry Zeliar should be exiled in His jammies post haste.

    • GRIZZ

      I know of a wonderful island we can send him to.
      Its been on the news lately

  • mike3481

    “Obama began meeting with twelve top Democrats at 9 p.m., and the meeting has no scheduled end time.”
    ________________

    Holy Shit.

    Obama is pulling the old, “dialog to a consensus” trick on his his own people. :shock: :lol:

    Betcha Obama’s coffee is the only one with caffeine in it. :lol:

  • T-Rony

    I work for a union and this PISSES me off.My union the IUE-CWA endorsed Obozo….then called complaining about the sur tax and wanting support against it..I told them not to contact me for anything again…to just consider my dues…which was changed to a percentage of your hourly rate instead of a flat rate(sound familiar??)How’s the union support of Obozo working out for the UAW?We will all be bending over and taking it in the can as long as the socialists are allowed to stay in power.

  • Jim D

    I smell some more payoffs,He’s getting towards the end now. We are fucked!

  • richwill

    I suggest buying the KY jell ASAP. When this bill passes there will be quite a run on KY jell. :lol:

  • josephus

    Here’s the point everyone is missing:

    Now, if you work for a Union, you get top benefits AND you don’t get taxed on it.

    Next up: Card check. They will UNIONIZE everything. As the taxes kick in, as employers throw people under the bus, the Unions will swoop in and say: See, great healthcare, unlike the rest of the public.

    This is Andy Stern’s goal. TO GROW UNIONS.

    Eventually, they will give people a perception of providing so much for them that a vote vs. the Dems will be a vote against something ESSENTIAL in your life.

    This is their plan, clear and simple.

    And if you don’t support them. If you don’t vote for them. They will punish you with higher taxes, confiscation of your life, your health, your family’s health, your family’ wealth and other major inconveniences.

  • EL GONZO

    The only UNION we should strive for is a UNION OF MILITIAS willing to take our country back. Elections, sorry to say, may not fit our current situation. And those that think that “Just wait until the next election to turn things out” or call some “village idiots” for saying to start a war, are about to enter living in la-la land. This happened in Venezuela (I remember some that left there telling that “next Time when we vote…” Same in Cuba (They have “free” elections and you “better” vote for the ONE. Iran has “free” elections…. We too could face this dilemma by simply being peaceful and think that the election process will work, well, sure vote…. but keep your options very open….stock up, clean weapons, organize, mobilize, make scape plans, rally point plans, etc, etc. It may come to that. Notice the “noise” on voting problems already surfacing in the Mass. Race. This will be telling of the fall elections. Sure they can bring in Black Panther thugs to “hang” out, we should bring in our “White Panthers” to hang out as well, or heck, the KKK, Why not? WHY NOT?????

  • Karl Marx responds

    “Obama has jumped in with both feet… telling lawmakers…he will not tolerate failure”

    Dictator, noun: an absolute ruler, tyrant.

  • Kerry Ann Mahoney

    This man in the White House has everyone I know scared to death. The Democrats are doing a good imitation of the old Soviet Politboro and their smug faces reveals their intent. This is going to be a very bad year for America. My brother is an Oath Keeper and they set up a site with a page on what some think may even be a real Coup but they made it into a game. I showed it to a liberal friend and she even now doubts Obama. Google 2011 Obama’s Coup Fails and see what I mean.
    Americans all need to wake up faster before we really lose America to the SEIU and other Fascists that are all too willing to destroy freedom in the name of their fake equality.

  • PChance

    When I look at the U.S. flag that I fly from my home I think back to the country our founding fathers created and to those who have served to protect our freedom. I do not think of our current administration.

  • MinneSoCold

    Watch for sudden serious illnesses of republicans. If Obama doesn’t have enough votes, then they need to eliminate enough no votes for it to pass.

  • Steady Eddie

    This is Bullshit!!!!!! This is discrimination against non-union households. This needs to be challenged in court.

    • Sully

      It will be.
      Hey, why do you suppose Barry’s primary criteria for a SCOTUS Justice was “empathy”?

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