Pope Defends Vatican’s Actions During Holocaust

January 17th, 2010 (14) Posted By Pat Dollard.

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BBC:

Pope Benedict XVI has defended the Vatican against accusations of indifference towards the Nazis’ annihilation of Europe’s Jews in WWII.

On a landmark visit to Rome’s main synagogue, the Pope said the Vatican helped Jews and “provided assistance, often in a hidden and discreet way”.

The pontiff responded after an Italian Jewish leader spoke of the painful “silence” of wartime Pope Pius XII.

It comes amid Jewish anger at Benedict’s moves to beatify Pius.

The Pope conceded that “unfortunately, many remained indifferent”, to the suffering of the Jews, six million of whom were killed in the Holocaust.

But he said “The Apostolic See [the Vatican] itself provided assistance, often in a hidden and discreet way,” without mentioning Pius XII by name.

His remarks came directly after the president of Rome’s Jewish community, Riccardo Pacifici, told him “the silence of Pius XII before the Shoah [Holocaust], still hurts because something should have been done”.

“Maybe it would not have stopped the death trains, but it would have sent a signal, a word of extreme comfort, of human solidarity, towards those brothers of ours transported to the ovens of Auschwitz,” he said.

The visit, Benedict’s third to a Jewish temple since becoming pope in 2005, is seen as a gesture of reconciliation between Catholics and Jews.

Some in the Jewish community, including at least one senior rabbi and a Holocaust survivor, boycotted the event.

The BBC’s Duncan Kennedy in Rome says some Jewish leaders have called on the Vatican to open up its secret archives to study the record of Pius XII in closer detail.

That this issue is souring otherwise increasingly healthy relations between the two religions will frustrate many on both sides, but it is an issue that is unlikely to go away whilst Pius’ path to sainthood is under consideration, our correspondent adds.

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  • LechWalesa

    Popy, open the archives !

    If Pius XII had said a word against the Nazis, churches would have displayed his discourse in masses, and the anonym indifferent population would have taken concern

    But he was more obsessed by the communists, and Nazis were fighting them

    • mike3481

      :roll:

  • JRT

    Anyone who’s looked into the issue knows the Pope has nothing to appologise for. Suffice it to say, after the war, the head rabbi in Rome became Catholic. The Jews at the time understood everything perfectly. Why is it so difficult now?

    • LechWalesa

      because he didn’t make an official protest as a public person, though while hiding some Jews in Vatican.

      Perennity of the Church counted more that standing frontally to Hitler.

    • Sully

      Why is it so difficult now?
      Because of the french.
      Who did an absolutely amazing job of “standing frontally to Hitler”.

    • LechWalesa

      “49 évêques sur 85 protestèrent publiquement” in 1942 when the truth happened to be known on the fate of the Jews after that Hitler had decided to eliminate them all in invading Ukraine and Russia, upt to 1941, Jews were labor force in concentration camps with the conditions of living that we all know now

      http://www.pie12.com/index.php?post/2007/05/18/28-ii-attitude-de-leglise-en-allemagne-face-au-nazisme-3-4

      But weren’t you not isolationists in the meanwhile, and even after 1942, knowing what happened to the Jews, nothing was undertaken to bomb the camps or to ruin the rails by your rough Rider Roosevelt !

    • LechWalesa

      Rosie, from your link

      “While 80 percent of European Jews were murdered in the Holocaust, 85 percent of Italian Jews survived, thanks in large part to the Vatican’s efforts”

      this is the average percentage for the whole countries controlled by the Nazis, but in Ukraine, almost 100 %, Poland 95 %, Holland 95%, France 70%…

      http://kimel.net/france.html

      in this link, you’ll get all thereports made by Alexander Kimel, a Holocaust survivor

    • LechWalesa

      Sorry, 30% for France

  • Sully

    C’mon franchie… don’t try and turn the argument around.
    The French have been searching for 50 years for some nation or entity that requited themselves worse in WW2.
    You do that on every Vatican thread that comes around.

    Now c’mon….the first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem.

    • LechWalesa

      “France was one of the countries controlled by the Germans at the early stages of war, but it had a high level of democratic tradition of Liberte, Fraternity and Egalite. In France about 75000 Jews perished out of a population of 350,000, about 70% survived. Many factors contributed to the relatively high survival rate, the most important factor was the attitude of the silent majority, who made it difficult of the Germans to identify and catch the Jews. Even the local police cooperated only reluctantly with the Germans, Jews were provided with false identification papers, given shelter and moral support. Jews also participated massively in the resistance and at the beginning stages about 33% of the resistance fighters were Jewish.”

      http://kimel.net/france.html

      Iknow Sully that you only acknoledge anglo-saxon papers that only work for the anglo-saxon legends, but as you have a Irish ancestry you should be more cautious with t’em

      Nowadays, legends written for the only glory of the anglo-saxon world seem to ternish when confronted with facts, and the 1940 defeat wasn’t only a French’s but also a Brits’… many other Battles were won with the help of the colonial French army too, (Monte Cassino, El-Alamein….)

  • rightangle

    Apparent New York Times headlines/quotes before and after America became involved in the War in Europe:

    “Vatican denounces atrocities in Poland; Germans called even worse than Russians.” NYT- Jan. 23, 1940

    “Pope is emphatic about just peace: Jewish rights defended.” NYT- March 14, 1940

    Dec. 25, 1941- (editorial) New York Times applauded the pope for placing “himself squarely against Hitlerism,” upset that “the voice of Pius XII is a lonely voice in the silence and darkness enveloping Europe this Christmas.”

    “Pope is said to plead for Jews listed for removal from France.” NYT- August 6, 1942 (after news of the Final Solution is leaked out. Vichy Gov took active role in rounding up Jews, but to be fair, many French helped conceal Jewish citizens/refugees.)
    ^
    ^
    ^mostly excerpted from Donald Devine article, “Hitler’s Pope?”:

    http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/history/world/wh0028.html

    • LechWalesa

      I made a reply, unfortunately swalloed

  • rosie

    http://www.jewishjournal.com/arts/article/hitlers_pope_story_a_myth_rabbi_finds_20051104/

    Excerpt:

    Dalin includes references to NUMEROUS PAPERS FROM THE VATICAN (caps mine), along with memoirs of Holocaust survivors and non-Jewish rescuers, showing that Pius directly ordered church representatives across Europe to hide Jews and provide other forms of material sustenance, including cash. In Hungary alone, 170,000 Jews evaded Auschwitz because of Pius’ personal intervention.

  • Tom in CO

    Gotta love the irrational Catholic hatred, lulz.