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Cowardly Taliban Degenerates Using Civilians As Human Shields



Feb 17, 2010 20 Comments ›› Erik Wong

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BBC:

Taliban militants are increasingly using civilians as “human shields” as they battle against a joint Afghan-Nato offensive, an Afghan general has said.

Gen Mohiudin Ghori said his soldiers had seen Taliban fighters placing women and children on the roofs of buildings and firing from behind them.

The joint offensive in southern Helmand province has entered its fifth day.

US Marines fighting to take the Taliban haven of Marjah have had to call in air support as they come under heavy fire.

They have faced sustained machine-gun fire from fighters hiding in bunkers and in buildings including homes and mosques.

Gen Ghori, the senior commander for Afghan troops in the area, accused the Taliban of taking civilians hostage in Marjah and putting them in the line of fire.

“Especially in the south of Marjah, the enemy is fighting from compounds where soldiers can very clearly see women or children on the roof or in a second-floor or third-floor window,” he is quoted by Associated Press as saying.

“They are trying to get us to fire on them and kill the civilians.”

As a result, his forces were having to make the choice either not to return fire, he said, or to advance much more slowly in order to distinguish militants from civilians.

Nato has stressed that the safety of civilians in the areas targeted in the joint Nato and Afghan Operation Moshtarak is its highest priority.

Journalist Jawad Dawari, based in Lashkar Gah, told BBC Pashto that Taliban fighters remained in many residential areas of Marjah and were defending their positions with heavy weapons.

“It is difficult for the Afghan army and Nato to storm Taliban-held areas because to do so may inflict heavy civilian casualties and there are still a lot of civilians in Marjah.

“Whenever they launch an attack, the Taliban take refuge in civilians’ homes.”

He had spoken to many local people in Marjah, he said, and they had all said the Nato offensive had made little progress since the first day.

An Afghan military official had told reporters that the backbone of the resistance came from foreign fighters – Pakistani and Arab – and that it was feared they might resort to suicide attacks, he added.

The most senior US general in the south, Brig Gen Ben Hodges, gave the BBC a more upbeat assessment of Marjah, saying locals were coming out to give information on insurgents now that they were confident the forces involved in Operation Moshtarak were not leaving.

He said Afghan units would be staying for at least 30 days and the Marine battalions “for several months”.

Speaking to the BBC after visiting Marjah, the commander of British forces in southern Afghanistan, Maj Gen Nick Carter, said the situation was dangerous, but that progress was being made.

He told the BBC’s Frank Gardner it could take up to 30 days to clear the insurgents out, depending on when they lost the will to fight.

Troops taking part in the offensive have been having to deal with large numbers of improvised bombs.

American forces have found a so-called “daisy chain” – a long bomb rigged up from mortar bombs, rocket-propelled grenades and a motorbike, our correspondent says.

And British engineers have deployed a device called a “python” – a length of explosives designed to set off mines and clear a safe path through them, he says.

Afghan army chief of staff Besmillah Khan told the AFP news agency the threat from improvised bombs meant gains were coming “slowly”.

Meanwhile, to the north, British forces have discovered an insurgent cache of stolen Afghan army and police uniforms.

The find suggests the Taliban could have been planning attacks disguised as Afghan security personnel, our correspondent says.

Nato says discussions with the local population on how to bring lasting security to the area are continuing, our correspondent adds.

Gen Hodges said several hundred police had been trained and would go into central Helmand once the situation was deemed appropriate.

British and Afghan troops are reported to be advancing more swiftly in the nearby district of Nad Ali than are their US and Afghan counterparts in Marjah.

Missiles ‘on target’

Gen Carter confirmed on Tuesday a missile that struck a house outside Marjah on Sunday killing 12 people, including six children, had hit its intended target.

Gen Carter said the rocket had not malfunctioned and the US system responsible for firing it was back in use. Officials say three Taliban, as well as civilians, were in the house but the Nato soldiers did not know the civilians were there.

Initial Nato reports said the missile had landed about 300m (984ft) off its intended target. Gen Carter blamed these “conflicting” reports on “the fog of war”.

Speaking on Tuesday, Dawud Ahmadi – a spokesman for Helmand Governor Gulab Mangal – said that 1,240 families had been displaced and evacuated from Marjah – and all had received aid in the provincial capital, Lashkar Gah.

Operation Moshtarak, meaning “together” in the Dari language, is the biggest coalition attack since the Taliban fell in 2001.

Allied officials have reported only two coalition deaths so far – one American and one Briton killed on Saturday.


  • Ralph Ulm

    It continues to boggle the mind that Military Leaders sustain an ROE – this is a punishment for our fine heroes with the ultimate betrayal from their “Leaders”, culminating in deaths which should have never occurred in the first place. To call these shit-eating, vile, fuckwads “enemy combatants and therefore, subject to our ROE” is criminal. The Miltaries of all Countries fighting Terrorism continue to be ordered by CIVILIAN Leaders to consider these Mooselimbs “Human Beings”. A cockroach is more human than a Tallybanana or Mooselimb Extremist or Terrorist.

    When is “we cannot be like them” going to end and these things get exterminated en masse, once and for all? One Ally KIA is not worth the lives of 250,000 of these things – there should be a concerted effort to physically remove all women, children and KNOWN male Allies from the Country of Battle and then just go through the bastards with full force, using ALL munitions available until nothing moves except the obligatory cockroach.

  • Ralph Ulm

    It continues to boggle the mind that Military Leaders sustain an ROE – this is a punishment for our fine heroes with the ultimate betrayal from their “Leaders”, culminating in deaths which should have never occurred in the first place. To call these shit-eating, vile, fuckwads “enemy combatants and therefore, subject to our ROE” is criminal. The Miltaries of all Countries fighting Terrorism continue to be ordered by CIVILIAN Leaders to consider these Mooselimbs “Human Beings”. A cockroach is more human than a Tallyshit-head or Mooselimb Extremist or Terrorist.

    When is “we cannot be like them” going to end and these things get exterminated en masse, once and for all? One Ally KIA is not worth the lives of 250,000 of these things – there should be a concerted effort to physically remove all women, children and KNOWN male Allies from the Country of Battle and then just go through the bastards with full force, using ALL munitions available until nothing moves except the obligatory cockroach.

  • EL GONZO

    As I glanced the report, I thought that it was a article about democrats….. but in reality, this is no difference that Obongo hiding behind the a-holes that voted for him……as for the actual report, I realize that we need to protect the innocent but the men under you are you top priority, anything after that is a target…sorry but that’s the reality under the tempo of momentum……. Victory is the “target”…..

  • EL GONZO

    Oh, and by the way, when we capture these ass holes, use pliers and drills at will, torture the fuck out of them, glass rods up their small dicks and then “handshake” harshly, drinking clorox….. my pass time and then there’s the typical teeth pulling and the use of dull small chainsaws., working from the outside in….. carving the skin away with the edges of spent oysters as you chuck then while they suffer and you drink good old American Beer….. I hate cowards of this type… they deserve hell here before they go to the other one, I want to make sure that if God does forgive ALL, at least a taste of hell would be nice….

    • http://www.bootparkergriffith.com The Sentinel at the Gate

      You’d be surprised how much unsolicited Intel you can get with two simple tools; a roll of Duct Tape and a pair of Vise Grips.

    • EL GONZO

      Oh, I know, you are right, heck ,make somebody kneel with a fistful of rice under their knees for a few hours (lame and an easy one) but yes simple things are amazing. I was just commenting on a bit of fun at the expense of these pieces of shit that for some reason were not aborted before they were born. It’s the only time when I really think PRO-CHOICE should be enforced…. But yeah, I love the smell of duct tape when it comes up from a new roll……

  • Sully

    Well let’s do the same.
    Let’s put up Code Pink and the Progressive Caucus as ‘shields’.

    • cold soldier

      Thats funny right there, I dont care who you are :!: :lol:

  • karl anglin

    Terrorists hiding behind civilians?
    What else is new?

    • BradW (the Infidel)

      Karl,

      So true, we have had to deal with the exact same thing in the United States for decades. They are call elected Democrats.

  • Tyler520

    This isn’t news – these pieces of human excrement have been doing this for decades – the Taliban, Al Qaida, Hamas…all of them sacrifice civilians. The PLO would even sabotage and booby trap entire apartment blocks in the case of an IDF raid – the civilains would be shuttled to the roof to prevent aerial attacks by helicopters, then when the IDF foot soldiers would enter the building, the PLO would set off bombs inside the building, killing IDF and civilinas alike, while the PLO would slip through a tunnel in the basement and immediately call up a news agency to spread propaganda that “Israel is bombing civilian homes” – the MSM and typical brainless bleeding heart liberals eat it up

  • http://www.dirtydozensbunker.com Sanders

    There are no “innocent” civilians over there. I’ll wager those women and children went up there willingly.

    Kipling gave us some insight on Afghan women, and what they do to prisoners and the dead.

    • Alysson Heazle

      Sorry My head isn’t wrapping around reality that is horrible….

    • http://www.dirtydozensbunker.com Sanders

      When you’re wounded and left on Afghanistan’s plains,
      And the women come out to cut up what remains,
      Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
      An’ go to your Gawd like a soldier.
      Go, go, go like a soldier,
      Go, go, go like a soldier,
      Go, go, go like a soldier,
      So-oldier of the Queen!

    • Bobby E

      The infamous Khyber Pass massacre. All agreed to let the Brits leave in peace and then lay in wait to slaughter them. Mohammed devised the techniques and in the modern day Arafat perfected them. To enter into any contract or treaty with Muslims is foolhardy … they don’t honor them as contracts and treaties in the Western world are honored. To advance Islam, they are proscribed not to. Islam is no more a religion than global warming is. Or, as I always say, it is Satan’s religion … but, that’s just me.

    • http://militias.ning.com/group/MILITIAO Rosie

      :beer: @ Bobby E

      No. It ain’t just you.

  • bman

    need more snipers

  • Alysson Heazle

    Why not just remove all Females and children this would be the best if they don’t really care for there own people sick and wrong….We should have huge prayer over our enemies the Evil is so deep….Poor people who don’t know any better:(

  • GRIZZ

    “how do you shoot women and children”…….you dont lead them so much”…bada boom

  • bacongreasenapalm

    I’m pretty sure the ROEs weren’t quite as restrictive in Ruby Ridge, ID.