Pat Dollard

Well Jerry that just maybe what needs to happen. It brings to mind…….they came for the Jews, I said nothing, they came for the Christians I said nothing. Than they came for me!

Agreed…but I have a hard time reading that statement and somehow formulating in my head an excuse to raid the group.

I bet many don’t all agree here with some of the statements…even so, I wouldn’t mind having most of ‘em watching my back in a Ranger-grave, you know? (if the sh*t hit the fan, etc…)

I think there’s a lot that hasn’t been made public yet, other than this is an excellent example of why group OPSEC is so important.

The military doesn’t accept just anyone these days…why should a group?

No. Just making the point about perception and demonizing….based on other content on the site it is likely that the website has been hijacked.

In my professional opinion, there was no site hijacking (inserting pages not authored by the group), at least in the last 4 days.

Now…there may have been forum posts with suggestive subject lines and lack of a decent moderator (or an unsaid condoning)?…traffic to their site was not exactly record-breaking.

There is a difference between a site that’s making supposed threats…and an unmoderated message board where anyone…can make threats.

Follow the IP’s, but somehow I don’t think the public will ever know…

The question is why is everything sealed…what are they trying to hide?

The conspiracy side of me 75/25 the Feds hijacked it. The buzz in the Militia world was the Michigan Militia bust and their website was under the control of the Feds and spreading dis-information.

But if you go to the Sipsey Street Irregulars blog you will find that he is pulling up the BS flag and stating that these folks are trouble makers.

Flip a coin, Who knows.

If nothing more….there is a bunch of infighting and further proof that a bunch of guys in street clothes ‘having fun’ draws less attention that guys running around in camo.

Well said, and in the same breath, fuck obama.

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I agree as to the intent of the action. But do not believe it will have the desired effect. We know from history that the tyrant must impose an increasingly authoritarian rule to achieve his ends. Our cause (the cause of freedom and the continued Republican form of Government) is larger than any one of us, or group of us. Further, there is a sea of difference between this small group and the scale of opposition within the general population. Much will ride on the ruling on health-control by the SCOTUS. We must remain focused and carry-on. My determination has not ebbed by any margin.

I still don’t understand the rock star treatment Zero had on his bullshit trip to Afghanastain. Does the military really “make” the soldiers act like this? I think not. When I see soldiers hamming it up with him and taking pictures – I think – these are the ones with the GED’s who have no fucking clue. I’m sorry – I love our military – I have kids who are veterans – but I will never understand why they see this man as a “leader”.

Hahaha!! That was great. Thanks.

If you notice, ALL the information is comming out though the Media… The Govt. would Love to have Public Opinion ON THIER SIDE! These people (guilty or innocent) will be rung through the Airwaves just like the Duke Lacross players. The Media will put these poor SOBs on trial before they EVER get thier day in court.

They don’t need to provoke anyone.
They don’t need a response from angry patriotic Americans.
They are quite capable of fabricating everything necessary to promote their agenda.
They control the media and have their people in all relevant government agencies.

When the time comes, they can create a crisis and the necessary pretense for imposing Martial Law.
No problem.

If that’s true, and it may or may not be, then they deserve appropriate punishment. No one here condones such behavior. We are concerned, however, that the media and obama will attempt to portray us as them in an effort to thwart opposition to his socialist agenda.
We are on the brink, and obama knows not what he does.

Hang tight John454. Often the start of battle is the most confusing. If you keep your head, others will follow. It’s the officer’s creed.

I’ve never heard of these people, but I did notice the story changed and it suspiciously seemed like an attempt to vilify them. I think the story may have changed because the initial story might have played in their favor, instead of painting them as evil. None of the story makes sense, especially in light of their beliefs, (as it would be a contradiction), unless viewed as a precursor for further action, such as some new gun control scheme. Got to have an excuse right? After all, Mexico’s Calderon is still crying that the cartels get their guns from the USA. Somehow I don’t connect practice of camping/survival skills and a little target shooting, as being something evil, I hope they get a fair trial, but I doubt it.

If you consider both versions of the story. What comes to mind is the suggestion in the title (of this post) that the action was based on an Islamic infiltrator. Both stories suggest that to be true. First, that the group was going to harm Muslims (I mean what American gives a shit about that?). Then, that they were going to bomb a funeral (What do the Muslims do all the time?).
I’ll bet the feds just swallowed a load fed to them by some muzzie informant and acted without confirmation because it fits their type cast of American opposition to Obama’s communist agenda.
Of course, we’ll never know.