Obama Pleads To Dems: My Presidency Is On The Line

March 18th, 2010 (28) Posted By Pat Dollard.

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It’s all about him…

Politico:

President Barack Obama had exhausted most of his health care reform arguments with members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus during a White House meeting last Thursday when he made a more personal pitch that resonated with many skeptics in the room.

One caucus member told POLITICO that Obama won him over by “essentially [saying] that the fate of his presidency” hinged on this week’s health reform vote in the House. The member, who requested anonymity, likened Obama’s remarks to an earlier meeting with progressives when the president said a victory was necessary to keep him “strong” for the next three years of his term.

Another caucus member, Rep. Jose Serrano (D-N.Y.), said, “We went in there already knowing his presidency would be weakened if this thing went down, but the president clearly reinforced the impression the presidency would be damaged by a loss.”

Added Serrano: “He was subtle, but that was the underlying theme of the meeting — the importance of passing this for the health of the presidency.”

White House officials said Obama’s recent remarks aren’t intended to personalize the debate or rally undecided Democratic members with an egocentric, “win one for Barry” message. They said Obama’s point is to hammer home the idea that all Democrats would benefit from a health care win and that the party’s larger policy agenda would be damaged if the president were to lose.

Still, all told, it’s a little more drama than Democrats are used to getting from Obama. And while it’s not the only argument being made by Obama administration and pro-reform allies on the Hill, it’s an increasingly important one as Democrats seek to sway a handful of health care holdouts ahead of an anticipated vote this weekend.

Moreover, there’s an unmistakable sense that the health care debate is fast moving past a discussion of the bill’s merits, beyond the all-consuming anxieties of incumbents and into an existential battle to preserve Obama’s presidency.

“The White House is raising the stakes so high, they are basically telling [House Democrats] that failure is not an option unless you want to sink the president,” said health industry lobbyist Steve Elmendorf, a onetime adviser to Rep. Dick Gephardt, a former Democratic leader.

Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), one of Obama’s closest allies in the health reform push, was more than willing to lay out a post-health-care doomsday scenario for Democrats and Obama should they fail.

“The first risk [of a health care defeat] is that he loses the reelect,” she said. “I think the risk to Congress is that his approval rating goes so low, he does not have enough heft to lift other important things we want to work on. … So this is a gut check. He’s got so much to lose by continuing to push for something that’s not going to be immediately popular. It’s not going to be popular by November; it’s not going to be popular by November of 2012. It’ll be popular 10 years from now.”

House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) has been telling Democratic fence sitters they are “deluding themselves” if they think Obama’s loss of prestige following a defeat won’t hurt them.

“There are serious implications of losing on President Obama’s ability to be effective for the rest of his three years in office,” Waxman told POLITICO. “That’s a message [undecided members] need to hear. If they don’t think that affects them if they are reelected, they are burying their heads in the sand.”

But many Democrats simply aren’t buying it after months of what they view as Obama’s disengagement from the health care battle.

“We’ve always known he’s a fourth-quarter player, and it’s great to see him on the field,” said an aide to a senior House Democrat. “So why did he sit on the sidelines for the last eight months?”

Rep. Stephen Lynch (D-Mass.), a firm “no” vote, has politely rebuffed feelers from Obama’s staff and rejects the idea that he can’t survive a defeat on health care.

“The White House calls me and says, ‘How are you doing?’” Lynch said. “I say, ‘I’m doing fine, but I’m not voting for this bill.’ … I don’t buy the argument that he’s done if this doesn’t pass. He’s got three more years. He can recover.”

Republicans said that playing the Obama card is an intensely risky proposition, arguing that Democrats on the Hill will resent him even more if he talks them into jumping off a cliff.

“As a legislator, you don’t want to be forced to pick between your constituents and the president — that’s a false choice,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who opposes the reform bill but has been a willing negotiating partner with the administration on other issues.

“Every president does this; Bush did this to me,” Graham added.

“His people said, ‘This president’s credibility is on the line,’ and I said, ‘Well, my judgment’s on the line.’ You try to make people vote your way using whatever tactics you can think of on big issues. … But unlike any other vote I have seen for a very long time, this one will define you; this becomes part of your legacy. You’ll be explaining this vote for a very, very long time — long after President Obama has been marginalized.”

Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.), chairwoman of the Progressive Caucus, added, “This isn’t about the president; this is about 47 million people who don’t have health insurance. … There’s no argument beyond the moral imperative.”

Still, the idea of Obama in peril seemed to play a part in the no-to-yes flip by Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio), who told reporters Wednesday that his decision was influenced by four conversations with Obama and “a real sense of compassion” for the tough time the president is having pushing the bill through.

Obama hasn’t made himself the central closing argument with the majority of legislators — in part, because most Democrats are already keenly aware of his dilemma. In private talks with lawmakers, he’s largely focused on carefully tailored responses to each legislator’s policy concerns and articulating the moral argument for reform.

Part of his high-road approach is dictated by his personal style, but part is a result of GOP accusations that Democrats engaged in secret sweetheart deals like the “Louisiana Purchase” and the “Cornhusker Kickback.”

“I think the process that the president has been engaged in over the past several months has in many ways been to clean up where that process went wrong at the end of last year,” press secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters on Tuesday.

But that doesn’t mean arms aren’t being twisted. Democratic donors are letting wavering Democratic incumbents know that their wallets will slam shut with a “no” vote. And big unions, like the AFL-CIO, AFSCME and Service Employees International Union, are shelling out $11 million to run ads and inundate battleground districts, letting Democrats know that they have as much to fear from labor as they do from Republicans.

In some cases, labor and associated organizations have taken it one step further — threatening to bankroll primary challengers against conservative Democratic incumbents, including New York Rep. Mike McMahon, a firm “no” vote, and Arkansas Sen. Blanche Lincoln.

“It’s a stupid strategy,” said one conservative Democrat targeted by the unions. “They are hitting me from the left. I couldn’t say yes now if I wanted to. … It would be seen as caving into their pressure.”

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  • MinneSoCold

    Lemmings.

  • EL GONZO

    Barrack Hussein Obama has been the second 9/11 for our country but in a larger scale. He must be removed. There’s no argument about it. His intentions are to Un-Americanize our country as fast as possible. The fall elections may not matter anymore at this point.

    • Nanny

      I will agree with the 9/11 analogy of Obama but don’t take great Americans for granted when it comes to fall elections.

      Conservatives cannot be cocky but I do believe the American people will let these pukes know who is in charge and it won’t be the liars, cheaters and ass wipes sitting in Washington right now.

    • EL GONZO

      I agree Nanny to a degree, but wasn’t fall elections that DID get this shit-stain congress and even a bigger vomit+shit stain a-hole elected? I trusted America to do the right thing despite the obvious signs that this “Hussein” was a socialist. Even in his campaign, you could tell,and yet they voted this guy over a war veteran with much. much more presidential fortitude (He was never my favorite, just to make that clear) and experience?
      I think this is beyond elections, it’s fixable with a state of emergency through our Armed Forces that are suppose to protect(LOL so far) the Constitution and place this congress under house arrest. There’s talk now that they (Congress) may apply this illegal cluster-fuck process to other legislation like Cap N Trade and Gun Control.
      But…. I guess in the meantime I will trust the American people, AGAIN, to make a massive correction.

    • Hawkerdriver (Pisson the Koran)

      I dont know Nanny…Many ballots supposedly missing in DFW.Acorn and SEIU will most likely manipulate massive voter fraud with illegal POTUS approval. Elections may have a large turnout but I fear the results will be waaaaay skewed.Then we will see anarchy..just the way they have planned it all along.

    • MIDTN

      Agree…the voter fraud will be massive.

      Wait until the a-holes in power, as they like to brag, serve up the rest of ther poison stew between now and Nov. 2, 2010.

      It would all seem to be a colossal joke if it weren’t so dangerous.
      :gun: :evil:

  • Attila

    Doesn’t this phony dipshit realize that after nov he is a lame duck one termer.

    • EL GONZO

      …more like a LAME FUCK… and he’s a REAL DIPDHIT, nothing phony about his “dipnesshit”…… he’s worse than Bin Laden in my view……

    • EL GONZO

      DIPSHIT, I meant DIPSHIT..not DIPDHIT. Working on one side and looking at the comments on the other at the same time is hard sometimes…..

  • josephus

    So in other words: Sacrifice your political careers for mine.

    YOU’RE ALL DONE WHETHER THIS PASSES OR NOT!

    That’s what they don’t get.
    It’s over.
    Passage or not.
    You pass it and I guarantee there will be massive protests everywhere.
    You don’t pass it, we celebrate and move with full speed to November.
    I don’t wanna wish the spring and summer away, but I can’t wait to get the fucking polls. Can’t wait.

    • EL GONZO

      :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

    • Nanny

      While I look forward to getting up to the cottage this spring and summer – I too look forward to the fall. I love the “change of seasons” but this one is going to be blazingly beautiful.

  • bacongreasenapalm

    Poor little Barry-Bam-Bam. His presidency fall down and go boom. It’s okay little guy, there will be plenty of “love” for you in prison.

  • bill-tb

    And who cares?

    Our country is on the line and we won’t go quietly.

    The Constitution is procedure, it’s all that separates us from the two-bit tin pots that Obama licks the boots of. To Quote Stalin “peace, jobs and democracy” — one of his favorite May Day slogan.

    Did you know the Muslim military junta that rules Indonesia now says it is a democracy … LOL – Just like Saddam’s Iraq.

  • Odin2012

    Wow! Obama, you are one winey little self centered bitch. You made me laugh. :lol: Now go and choke on Barney Franks weiner. :beer:

    • MIDTN

      …….LOL!……….or Michelle’s…. :razz:

  • MinneSoCold

    Pass or not, they will continue to over-reach all the way until they’re replacements are seated. These ass-clowns will try to take down everyone and everything. The cat is out of the bag now and there’s no turning back for them. They have to ram their socialist agenda through no matter the conciseness. Each of them will have a job/position waiting for them in the administration.

    I as an American, will make sure they fail and make sure they are exposed enough that they won’t be able to work in the public sector ever. Their only choice will be to become MSNBC commentators…. thus the trash-heap of American History.

    • T-bone

      Trash-heap. Now your giving a trash-heap a bad name. :mrgreen: :beer:

  • GRIZZ

    “But its not about me” cries the boy dictator

  • TerryTate

    Isn’t that the point?

    Separation of powers and such.

    A bad president should be weakened, so that he doesn’t take the country down with him.

    Congress is full of a bunch of stoneless wimps.

  • ji

    What about the “People” of this country?
    Isnt a President elected to help the people of this country?

    • EL GONZO

      Agree, but this is not a president, this is a dictator (Dick-Tatot)… What we have here is a totally different issue and our generals, sworn to lead patriots, are suppose to be doing their jobs and make some “noise” about the vaporizing Constitution and they have not lifted an eyebrow. They may become as guilty as Obama in this mess pretty soon……

  • Bonnie

    Obama’s destruction of the Republic is proceding as scheduled.

    A House corrupted is deemed invalid; consent to govern withdrawn.

    • political.fish

      Obama is the post-modern, half-black Hitler. Our government was never intended to work in this manner. The Constitution was intentionally designed to prevent this sort of tyranny. Obama has no constitutional authority to act in this way. The Executive, Legislative and Judicial branches are CO-EQUAL. The Executive has no authority to dictate the actions of the Congress. The unconstitutionality of these actions is blatant. Obama must be removed from office NOW.

  • Dennis

    We all knew that he is a conman. Now we know that he is a vain conman.

    Like a beauty pageant contestant who tells the judges: If you don’t vote for me, I will not be your queen. You will not be able to have the pleasure admiring me.

  • 0311inOHio (I didn’t drink the kool-Aid)

    Better his black ass on the line than the future of my kids and grand kids. :mad:

    Scum sucking piece of shit! :twisted: