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		<title>By: rxsid</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 22:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some updates:

Terry Lakin Letter to POTUS 
http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/news/terry-lakins-letter-to-potus.html

and

President Obama Needs to Prove His Constitutional Eligibility to Be Commander-in-Chief
By Terrence Lakin, MD

Last week, I entered Walter Reed Army Hospital to notify the Department of Defense that I would refuse to obey any orders from my commanding officers -- including President Obama -- until the president produces his original birth certificate. After nearly eighteen years of wearing the military uniform of the country I have proudly served, including overseas assignments in imminent danger/combat areas in Bosnia and Afghanistan, I felt compelled to take this step. 

I made this decision from much deliberation, after lengthy consultations with many friends, family members, and colleagues, and I firmly believe that all servicemen and women, and the American public, have the right to know the truth about President Obama&#039;s constitutional eligibility to serve as Commander-in-Chief.

[Picture of LTC Lakin &quot;packed for duty&quot;]

...
Since Nuremberg, My Lai, and even Abu Ghraib more recently, the military has been taught the hard lessons of following illegal orders. Any reasonable person looking critically at the information and evidence currently in the public domain about Obama&#039;s birthplace would have questions about President Obama&#039;s claim to be a natural born citizen. 

...
The U.S. military teaches and promotes the rule of law and civilian control of the military to many other nations and military forces around the world. Every soldier learns what constitutes a lawful order and is encouraged to stand up and object to unlawful orders. This is called the &quot;duty to disobey.&quot;

Since fall 2008, I have been troubled by reports that the president&#039;s original birth certificate remains concealed from public view along with other records which, if released, would quickly end questions surrounding his place of birth and &quot;natural born&quot; status. Many people mistook the online Certification of Live Birth for an original birth certificate. Until the summer of 2009, the Hawaiian Department of Homelands would not accept this Certification of Live Birth to determine native Hawaiian identity -- the Department insisted upon also reviewing an original birth certificate. 

...
In 2008, after pressure from news media, President Obama&#039;s rival, candidate McCain, produced  an original birth certificate from the Panama Canal Zone; a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing examined and affirmed his &quot;natural born&quot; status and constitutional eligibility to serve as president. The U.S. Senate was strangely silent about President Obama&#039;s eligibility despite statements from Kenyan citizens that he was born there, evidently including his paternal grandmother and the Ambassador from Kenya to the U.S. during a November 2008 radio interview. Hawaiian state officials claim that they cannot release an original birth certificate without Obama&#039;s consent, declaring that the public has no &quot;tangible interest&quot; in seeing this vital birth record.

I attempted without success through my chain of command for over a year to get answers to the questions surrounding the president&#039;s eligibility. I was told that I have no standing to make this inquiry, and moreover, that no one in DoD could answer this question. I made inquiries, unsuccessfully, through my congressional delegation, which simply referred my questions back to DoD. No one I spoke to was able to offer any evidence that the president is &quot;natural born.&quot;

...
While President Obama&#039;s records remain hidden, public consternation is growing. The American people have the right to know that their president is constitutionally eligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief and thereby may lawfully direct servicemembers into harm&#039;s way.

...
Until an original birth certificate is brought forward that will validate the Commander-in-Chief&#039;s constitutional eligibility and put to rest the reasonable questions surrounding it, I cannot in good conscience obey any of my military orders. Unless it is established (sufficient proof that should be easily within the president&#039;s power to provide) that he is constitutionally eligible to serve as president and Commander-in-Chief, I and all other military officers are at risk of following illegal orders.

There is no legitimate privacy right to information necessary to prove that President Obama is legally eligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief. 

I remain at risk of arrest and court-martial, but am mindful always that my oath of office is to the Constitution. It fills me with great sadness that on 31 March, I declined a direct order from my Medical Brigade Commander. This is a man I honor and wished to meet in order to thank him for his unquestionable valor and courage, and yet I could not obey his order. Now, he could order my arrest at any time.   

I hope that President Obama will demonstrate his respect for the U.S. Constitution and release his original birth certificate. My bags are packed, and I look forward to joining my fellow soldiers in Afghanistan, but I will deploy only with the knowledge that I am following legal orders under a lawful Commander-in-Chief.  

Full article by LTC Lakin, here:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/04/president_obama_needs_to_prove_1.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some updates:</p>
<p>Terry Lakin Letter to POTUS<br />
<a href="http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/news/terry-lakins-letter-to-potus.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/news/terry-lakins-letter-to-potus.html</a></p>
<p>and</p>
<p>President Obama Needs to Prove His Constitutional Eligibility to Be Commander-in-Chief<br />
By Terrence Lakin, MD</p>
<p>Last week, I entered Walter Reed Army Hospital to notify the Department of Defense that I would refuse to obey any orders from my commanding officers &#8212; including President Obama &#8212; until the president produces his original birth certificate. After nearly eighteen years of wearing the military uniform of the country I have proudly served, including overseas assignments in imminent danger/combat areas in Bosnia and Afghanistan, I felt compelled to take this step. </p>
<p>I made this decision from much deliberation, after lengthy consultations with many friends, family members, and colleagues, and I firmly believe that all servicemen and women, and the American public, have the right to know the truth about President Obama&#8217;s constitutional eligibility to serve as Commander-in-Chief.</p>
<p>[Picture of LTC Lakin "packed for duty"]</p>
<p>&#8230;<br />
Since Nuremberg, My Lai, and even Abu Ghraib more recently, the military has been taught the hard lessons of following illegal orders. Any reasonable person looking critically at the information and evidence currently in the public domain about Obama&#8217;s birthplace would have questions about President Obama&#8217;s claim to be a natural born citizen. </p>
<p>&#8230;<br />
The U.S. military teaches and promotes the rule of law and civilian control of the military to many other nations and military forces around the world. Every soldier learns what constitutes a lawful order and is encouraged to stand up and object to unlawful orders. This is called the &#8220;duty to disobey.&#8221;</p>
<p>Since fall 2008, I have been troubled by reports that the president&#8217;s original birth certificate remains concealed from public view along with other records which, if released, would quickly end questions surrounding his place of birth and &#8220;natural born&#8221; status. Many people mistook the online Certification of Live Birth for an original birth certificate. Until the summer of 2009, the Hawaiian Department of Homelands would not accept this Certification of Live Birth to determine native Hawaiian identity &#8212; the Department insisted upon also reviewing an original birth certificate. </p>
<p>&#8230;<br />
In 2008, after pressure from news media, President Obama&#8217;s rival, candidate McCain, produced  an original birth certificate from the Panama Canal Zone; a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing examined and affirmed his &#8220;natural born&#8221; status and constitutional eligibility to serve as president. The U.S. Senate was strangely silent about President Obama&#8217;s eligibility despite statements from Kenyan citizens that he was born there, evidently including his paternal grandmother and the Ambassador from Kenya to the U.S. during a November 2008 radio interview. Hawaiian state officials claim that they cannot release an original birth certificate without Obama&#8217;s consent, declaring that the public has no &#8220;tangible interest&#8221; in seeing this vital birth record.</p>
<p>I attempted without success through my chain of command for over a year to get answers to the questions surrounding the president&#8217;s eligibility. I was told that I have no standing to make this inquiry, and moreover, that no one in DoD could answer this question. I made inquiries, unsuccessfully, through my congressional delegation, which simply referred my questions back to DoD. No one I spoke to was able to offer any evidence that the president is &#8220;natural born.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;<br />
While President Obama&#8217;s records remain hidden, public consternation is growing. The American people have the right to know that their president is constitutionally eligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief and thereby may lawfully direct servicemembers into harm&#8217;s way.</p>
<p>&#8230;<br />
Until an original birth certificate is brought forward that will validate the Commander-in-Chief&#8217;s constitutional eligibility and put to rest the reasonable questions surrounding it, I cannot in good conscience obey any of my military orders. Unless it is established (sufficient proof that should be easily within the president&#8217;s power to provide) that he is constitutionally eligible to serve as president and Commander-in-Chief, I and all other military officers are at risk of following illegal orders.</p>
<p>There is no legitimate privacy right to information necessary to prove that President Obama is legally eligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief. </p>
<p>I remain at risk of arrest and court-martial, but am mindful always that my oath of office is to the Constitution. It fills me with great sadness that on 31 March, I declined a direct order from my Medical Brigade Commander. This is a man I honor and wished to meet in order to thank him for his unquestionable valor and courage, and yet I could not obey his order. Now, he could order my arrest at any time.   </p>
<p>I hope that President Obama will demonstrate his respect for the U.S. Constitution and release his original birth certificate. My bags are packed, and I look forward to joining my fellow soldiers in Afghanistan, but I will deploy only with the knowledge that I am following legal orders under a lawful Commander-in-Chief.  </p>
<p>Full article by LTC Lakin, here:<br />
<a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/04/president_obama_needs_to_prove_1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/04/president_obama_needs_to_prove_1.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: rxsid</title>
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		<dc:creator>rxsid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lakin plainly states that he&#039;s fully prepared for a General Courts Martial, and even expects it.

LTC Lakin&#039;s case will never go to trial for an entirely different reason.  Because the CinC can not afford discovery to occur in the defense of Lakin.

If it did happen, Barry&#039;s facade would crumble and he&#039;d be exposed as a usurper.  Not to mention the extreme damage to the (D) brand that would occur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lakin plainly states that he&#8217;s fully prepared for a General Courts Martial, and even expects it.</p>
<p>LTC Lakin&#8217;s case will never go to trial for an entirely different reason.  Because the CinC can not afford discovery to occur in the defense of Lakin.</p>
<p>If it did happen, Barry&#8217;s facade would crumble and he&#8217;d be exposed as a usurper.  Not to mention the extreme damage to the (D) brand that would occur.</p>
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		<title>By: The Sentinel at the Gate</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Sentinel at the Gate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LTC Lakin&#039;s case will never go to trial.  DOJ/DoD lawyers prosecuting the case will never submit ANY documents as required by disclosure.  The Army will quietly &quot;retire&quot; LTC Lakin with full benefits as long as he signs a Non-Disclosure Agreement and does not talk about it.  The threat of a General Courts Martial usually does the trick on most people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LTC Lakin&#8217;s case will never go to trial.  DOJ/DoD lawyers prosecuting the case will never submit ANY documents as required by disclosure.  The Army will quietly &#8220;retire&#8221; LTC Lakin with full benefits as long as he signs a Non-Disclosure Agreement and does not talk about it.  The threat of a General Courts Martial usually does the trick on most people.</p>
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		<title>By: Xcrypto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xcrypto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama has said he would sit down and talk without any pre-conditions with any tyrant or mass murderer. But he refuses to present to the American people his original record of birth. End the discussion; simple and quick. Or is something truly being covered up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama has said he would sit down and talk without any pre-conditions with any tyrant or mass murderer. But he refuses to present to the American people his original record of birth. End the discussion; simple and quick. Or is something truly being covered up?</p>
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		<title>By: rxsid</title>
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		<dc:creator>rxsid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this shows, crystal clear, that the Army brass and ABOVE, know full well that Barry is NOT NBC!

They clearly choose to try and confuse the issue by saying &quot;native&quot; citizen and not using the language that&#039;s in the actual requirement itself...&quot;Natural Born Citizen.&quot;

A blatant attempt, in official correspondence, to confuse people on the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this shows, crystal clear, that the Army brass and ABOVE, know full well that Barry is NOT NBC!</p>
<p>They clearly choose to try and confuse the issue by saying &#8220;native&#8221; citizen and not using the language that&#8217;s in the actual requirement itself&#8230;&#8221;Natural Born Citizen.&#8221;</p>
<p>A blatant attempt, in official correspondence, to confuse people on the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: rxsid</title>
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		<dc:creator>rxsid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True.  It&#039;s a calculated &quot;risk.&quot;

The Lt. Col. no doubt believes that if he were to be tried in (military) court, he would get a chance to defend himself.  Right?

The thought is, he could 1)Get Barry&#039;s records subpoenaed in his (Lakin) defense as well as 2)Get a definition for &quot;Natural Born Citizen&quot; as intended by the framers for AII,S1,C5....which no doubt would need to go through SCOTUS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True.  It&#8217;s a calculated &#8220;risk.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Lt. Col. no doubt believes that if he were to be tried in (military) court, he would get a chance to defend himself.  Right?</p>
<p>The thought is, he could 1)Get Barry&#8217;s records subpoenaed in his (Lakin) defense as well as 2)Get a definition for &#8220;Natural Born Citizen&#8221; as intended by the framers for AII,S1,C5&#8230;.which no doubt would need to go through SCOTUS.</p>
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		<title>By: Lock and Load</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lock and Load</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to say it, but the whole court martial situation is probably why so few in the military want to stand against obambi. Their entire careers, all they have accomplished in the military is on the line, and I would hazard a guess that very few officers are willing to risk that much  :???:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to say it, but the whole court martial situation is probably why so few in the military want to stand against obambi. Their entire careers, all they have accomplished in the military is on the line, and I would hazard a guess that very few officers are willing to risk that much  <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif' alt=':???:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: rxsid</title>
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		<dc:creator>rxsid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Breaking News: [Lt. Col. Lakin] Threatened with Court-Martial &quot;


http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/news/threatened-with-court-martial.html

Notice the 2nd sentence?  They say that Lt. Col. Lakin doesn&#039;t believe Barry is a &quot;native&quot; citizen.  That&#039;s NOT what his complaint is.  Lt. Col. believes that Barry isn&#039;t a &quot;natural born&quot; citizen.

The Constitution doesn&#039;t require a &quot;native&quot; citizen (which could be an anchor baby).  The Constitution clearly requires &quot;Natural Born&quot; citizenship.

See how they try to cloud the issue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Breaking News: [Lt. Col. Lakin] Threatened with Court-Martial &#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/news/threatened-with-court-martial.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/news/threatened-with-court-martial.html</a></p>
<p>Notice the 2nd sentence?  They say that Lt. Col. Lakin doesn&#8217;t believe Barry is a &#8220;native&#8221; citizen.  That&#8217;s NOT what his complaint is.  Lt. Col. believes that Barry isn&#8217;t a &#8220;natural born&#8221; citizen.</p>
<p>The Constitution doesn&#8217;t require a &#8220;native&#8221; citizen (which could be an anchor baby).  The Constitution clearly requires &#8220;Natural Born&#8221; citizenship.</p>
<p>See how they try to cloud the issue?</p>
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		<title>By: rxsid</title>
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		<dc:creator>rxsid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who, or &quot;what&quot; constituted a natural born citizen was well known to the framers. Jay would not have made such a suggestion to others (Washington &amp; the rest of those in attendance at the Constitutional Convention) unless there was a clear understanding of what that term meant.  The definition comes from a source that not only were the framers familiar with, but the founders (many who were both) as well.

NBC in the Constitutional drafts:

June 18th, 1787 - Alexander Hamilton suggests that the requirement be added, as: &quot;No person shall be eligible to the office of President of the United States unless he be now a Citizen of one of the States, or hereafter be born a Citizen of the United States.&quot;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_born_citizen_of_the_United_States 

July 25, 1787 (~5 weeks later) - John Jay writes a letter to General Washington (president of the Constitutional Convention): &quot;Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.&quot; [the word born is underlined in Jay&#039;s letter which signifies the importance of allegiance from birth.]
http://rs6.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/hlaw:@field%28DOCID+@lit%28fr00379%29%29:

September 2nd, 1787 - George Washington pens a letter to John Jay.  The last line reads: &quot;I thank you for the hints contained in your letter&quot;
http://www.consource.org/index.asp?bid=582&amp;fid=600&amp;documentid=71483

September 4th, 1787 (~6 weeks after Jay&#039;s letter and just 2 days after Washington wrote back to Jay) - The &quot;Natural Born Citizen&quot; requirement is now found in their drafts.
Madison&#039;s notes of the Convention:
http://www.nhccs.org/dfc-0904.txt
The proposal passed unanimously without debate.

Original French version of Vattel&#039;s Law of Nations:

Emer de Vattel, Le droit des gens, ou Principes de la loi naturelle, vol. 1 (of 2) [1758]

http://files.libertyfund.org/files/1051/0586-01_Bk.pdf
From Chapter XIX, 212(page 248 of 592):

Title in French: &quot;Des citoyens et naturels&quot;

To English: &quot;Citizens and natural&quot;

French text (about citizens): &quot;Les citoyens sont les membres de la societe civile : lies a cette societe par certains devoirs et soumis a son autorite, ils participent avec egalite a ses avantages.&quot;
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To English: &quot;The citizens are the members of the civil society: linked to this society by certain duties and subject to its authority, they participate with equality has its advantages.&quot;
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French text (about &quot;natural&quot; born citizens): &quot;Les naturels, ou indigenes, sont ceux qui sont nes dans le pays, de parens citoyens&quot;
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To English, gives this: &quot;the natural, or indigenous, are those born in the country, parents [plural] who are citizens&quot;

The same definition was referenced in the dicta of many early SCOTUS cases as well...some examples:

&quot;THE VENUS, 12 U.S. (8 Cranch) 253, 289 (1814) (Marshall, C.J. concurring) (cites Vattelâ€™s definition of Natural Born Citizen)
SHANKS V. DUPONT, 28 U.S. 242, 245 (1830) (same definition without citing Vattel)
MINOR V. HAPPERSETT, 88 U.S.162,167-168 ( 1875) (same definition without citing Vattel)
EX PARTE REYNOLDS, 1879, 5 Dill., 394, 402 (same definition and cites Vattel)
UNITED STATES V WARD, 42 F.320 (C.C.S.D. Cal. 1890) (same definition and cites Vattel.)&quot;
http://www.scribd.com/doc/17519578/Kerchner-v-Obama-Congress-DOC-34-Plaintiffs-Brief-Opposing-Defendants-Motion-to-Dismiss

A detailed, historical, etymology of the term &quot;Natural Born Citizen&quot; can be found here: http://www.greschak.com/essays/natborn/index.htm&lt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who, or &#8220;what&#8221; constituted a natural born citizen was well known to the framers. Jay would not have made such a suggestion to others (Washington &amp; the rest of those in attendance at the Constitutional Convention) unless there was a clear understanding of what that term meant.  The definition comes from a source that not only were the framers familiar with, but the founders (many who were both) as well.</p>
<p>NBC in the Constitutional drafts:</p>
<p>June 18th, 1787 &#8211; Alexander Hamilton suggests that the requirement be added, as: &#8220;No person shall be eligible to the office of President of the United States unless he be now a Citizen of one of the States, or hereafter be born a Citizen of the United States.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_born_citizen_of_the_United_States" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_born_citizen_of_the_United_States</a> </p>
<p>July 25, 1787 (~5 weeks later) &#8211; John Jay writes a letter to General Washington (president of the Constitutional Convention): &#8220;Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.&#8221; [the word born is underlined in Jay's letter which signifies the importance of allegiance from birth.]<br />
<a href="http://rs6.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/hlaw:@field%28DOCID+@lit%28fr00379%29%29" rel="nofollow">http://rs6.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/hlaw:@field%28DOCID+@lit%28fr00379%29%29</a>:</p>
<p>September 2nd, 1787 &#8211; George Washington pens a letter to John Jay.  The last line reads: &#8220;I thank you for the hints contained in your letter&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.consource.org/index.asp?bid=582&#038;fid=600&#038;documentid=71483" rel="nofollow">http://www.consource.org/index.asp?bid=582&#038;fid=600&#038;documentid=71483</a></p>
<p>September 4th, 1787 (~6 weeks after Jay&#8217;s letter and just 2 days after Washington wrote back to Jay) &#8211; The &#8220;Natural Born Citizen&#8221; requirement is now found in their drafts.<br />
Madison&#8217;s notes of the Convention:<br />
<a href="http://www.nhccs.org/dfc-0904.txt" rel="nofollow">http://www.nhccs.org/dfc-0904.txt</a><br />
The proposal passed unanimously without debate.</p>
<p>Original French version of Vattel&#8217;s Law of Nations:</p>
<p>Emer de Vattel, Le droit des gens, ou Principes de la loi naturelle, vol. 1 (of 2) [1758]</p>
<p><a href="http://files.libertyfund.org/files/1051/0586-01_Bk.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://files.libertyfund.org/files/1051/0586-01_Bk.pdf</a><br />
From Chapter XIX, 212(page 248 of 592):</p>
<p>Title in French: &#8220;Des citoyens et naturels&#8221;</p>
<p>To English: &#8220;Citizens and natural&#8221;</p>
<p>French text (about citizens): &#8220;Les citoyens sont les membres de la societe civile : lies a cette societe par certains devoirs et soumis a son autorite, ils participent avec egalite a ses avantages.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
To English: &#8220;The citizens are the members of the civil society: linked to this society by certain duties and subject to its authority, they participate with equality has its advantages.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
French text (about &#8220;natural&#8221; born citizens): &#8220;Les naturels, ou indigenes, sont ceux qui sont nes dans le pays, de parens citoyens&#8221;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
To English, gives this: &#8220;the natural, or indigenous, are those born in the country, parents [plural] who are citizens&#8221;</p>
<p>The same definition was referenced in the dicta of many early SCOTUS cases as well&#8230;some examples:</p>
<p>&#8220;THE VENUS, 12 U.S. (8 Cranch) 253, 289 (1814) (Marshall, C.J. concurring) (cites Vattelâ€™s definition of Natural Born Citizen)<br />
SHANKS V. DUPONT, 28 U.S. 242, 245 (1830) (same definition without citing Vattel)<br />
MINOR V. HAPPERSETT, 88 U.S.162,167-168 ( 1875) (same definition without citing Vattel)<br />
EX PARTE REYNOLDS, 1879, 5 Dill., 394, 402 (same definition and cites Vattel)<br />
UNITED STATES V WARD, 42 F.320 (C.C.S.D. Cal. 1890) (same definition and cites Vattel.)&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/17519578/Kerchner-v-Obama-Congress-DOC-34-Plaintiffs-Brief-Opposing-Defendants-Motion-to-Dismiss" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/doc/17519578/Kerchner-v-Obama-Congress-DOC-34-Plaintiffs-Brief-Opposing-Defendants-Motion-to-Dismiss</a></p>
<p>A detailed, historical, etymology of the term &#8220;Natural Born Citizen&#8221; can be found here: <a href="http://www.greschak.com/essays/natborn/index.htm&#038;lt" rel="nofollow">http://www.greschak.com/essays/natborn/index.htm&#038;lt</a>;</p>
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		<description>How can a Natural Born Citizen&#039;s status be &quot;Governed&quot; by Great Britain?

&quot;When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdomâ€™s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.â€˜s children.&quot;
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html

Factcheck.org goes on to say this about Obama Sr., Jr. and the British Nationality Act of 1948:

&quot;In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC. http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html


Even the modern day State Department rules discusses the problems associated with dual citizenship:
    &quot;7 FAM 081: U.S. Policy on Dual Nationality:

    (e)While recognizing the existence of dual nationality, the U.S. Government does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Dual nationality may hamper efforts by the U.S. Government to provide diplomatic and consular protection to individuals overseas. When a U.S. citizen is in the other country of their dual nationality, that country has a predominant claim on the person.
...
the U.S. Supreme Court has stated that dual nationality is a &quot;status long recognized in the law&quot; and that &quot;a person may have and exercise rights of nationality in two countries and be subject to the responsibilitie of both.&quot; See Kawakita v. United States, 343 U.S. 717 (1952). &quot;
    http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86563.pdf

So, back to the question: &quot;HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN&#039;S STATUS BE &quot;GOVERNED&quot; BY GREAT BRITAIN?&quot;

It can&#039;t.  Of course not.  Yet, right there, on his campaign web site F.T.S., it&#039;s stated that a foreign government &quot;governed&quot; Barry from birth and the reason it did, was that Barry inherited that foreign citizenship by way of his foreign national father (no matter where he was born). Assuming, of course, that Sr. was his legal father at birth.

How, then, could he possibly be a &quot;Natural Born Citizen&quot; of the U.S.?

Barry Soetoro, the divided citizen at birth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can a Natural Born Citizen&#8217;s status be &#8220;Governed&#8221; by Great Britain?</p>
<p>&#8220;When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdomâ€™s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.â€˜s children.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html" rel="nofollow">http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html</a></p>
<p>Factcheck.org goes on to say this about Obama Sr., Jr. and the British Nationality Act of 1948:</p>
<p>&#8220;In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC. <a href="http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html</a></p>
<p>Even the modern day State Department rules discusses the problems associated with dual citizenship:<br />
    &#8220;7 FAM 081: U.S. Policy on Dual Nationality:</p>
<p>    (e)While recognizing the existence of dual nationality, the U.S. Government does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Dual nationality may hamper efforts by the U.S. Government to provide diplomatic and consular protection to individuals overseas. When a U.S. citizen is in the other country of their dual nationality, that country has a predominant claim on the person.<br />
&#8230;<br />
the U.S. Supreme Court has stated that dual nationality is a &#8220;status long recognized in the law&#8221; and that &#8220;a person may have and exercise rights of nationality in two countries and be subject to the responsibilitie of both.&#8221; See Kawakita v. United States, 343 U.S. 717 (1952). &#8221;<br />
    <a href="http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86563.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86563.pdf</a></p>
<p>So, back to the question: &#8220;HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN&#8217;S STATUS BE &#8220;GOVERNED&#8221; BY GREAT BRITAIN?&#8221;</p>
<p>It can&#8217;t.  Of course not.  Yet, right there, on his campaign web site F.T.S., it&#8217;s stated that a foreign government &#8220;governed&#8221; Barry from birth and the reason it did, was that Barry inherited that foreign citizenship by way of his foreign national father (no matter where he was born). Assuming, of course, that Sr. was his legal father at birth.</p>
<p>How, then, could he possibly be a &#8220;Natural Born Citizen&#8221; of the U.S.?</p>
<p>Barry Soetoro, the divided citizen at birth!</p>
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