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Dems Anxious For Government Shutdown, Want It Badly In Hopes Of Damaging GOP/Tea Party, Don’t Want Continuing Resolution



Apr 5, 2011 12 Comments ›› Pat Dollard

Th Dems want to use a government shutdown to destroy the Tea Party. A dubious plan, indeed. Either Boehner or Obama will choke, and their troops will follow, case closed. The Dems also will win if the GOP blinks, as far as the Tea Party goes, because then they will be able to say that the Tea Party has no real influence anymore, the limits of their power have been reached, and that they are now a dying thing of the past having been rejected by their own embraced party. And so, the fate of the Tea Party’s power, at least until the 2012 campaign kicks into high-gear, lies in the balance of this entire budget showdown.

What I’ve said in the headline added to what I’ve said above, is my take on all of this.

WASHINGTON, April 5 (Reuters) – Washington braced for a shutdown as Republican and Democratic lawmakers headed to the White House on Tuesday in an attempt to reach a budget deal that would keep the government running beyond Friday.

With only four days to cement a deal, the two sides have yet to resolve major differences in a long-overdue budget plan that would slice a record $33 billion from current spending levels.

The White House directed government agencies to prepare for a shutdown if the U.S. Congress does not pass a budget plan before funding runs out at midnight on Friday. [ID:nN05100992]

Republicans have floated a new plan that would push the deadline back by a week and impose another $12 billion in cuts, but Democrats have called it unacceptable.

The shutdown talk could merely be posturing before the 10:15 a.m. (1515 GMT) meeting between President Barack Obama and congressional leaders, or it could be a sign that a deal may be out of reach for the time being.

“I don’t know if we will need divine inspiration or divine interjection into this matter, but whatever it might take, I hope people of good will can come to an agreement,” Democratic Senator Dick Durbin said.

Observers said a shutdown still appeared less than likely at this point, as neither side would benefit if their inaction closed everything from passport offices to bankruptcy courts.

“Our odds remain above 50 percent that the government will not shut down on Saturday, though it is close to a jump ball,” wrote MF Global analyst Chris Krueger in a research note.

REPUBLICANS UNVEIL 2012 BUDGET PLAN

Congress is struggling to complete an overdue budget for the fiscal year that ends Sept. 30, even as lawmakers wade into wider budget battles. Republicans are eager to fulfill a campaign promise to scale back the size of government, while Democrats say the cuts they envision could push the economy back into recession.

A spending cut of $33 billion would lead to sharp cutbacks at government agencies, but would do little to plug a U.S. deficit that is projected to hit $1.4 trillion this year.

Amid the fight, Republicans laid the groundwork for wider budget battles.


  • http://patdollard.com Average Joe

    If there has been a time for contemplating WE THE PEOPLE taking out the MSM, IT IS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    THOSE FUCKERS NEED TO FEEL THE PAIN OF BEING DEMOCRAT, ANTI-AMERICANS…..DIE YOU MUTHERS IN THE MEDIA LIKE CNN, ALL GE-NBC, NYT!

    • http://patdollard.com Average Joe

      REASON FOR COMMENT………..

      ON CNBC….YA KNOW, THE FINANCIAL GUYS THAT CALLED FOR TEA PARTY, A BUNCH OF (MARKET) GUYS ARE ON THIS MORNING.

      THEY ARE STAMMERING THAT TEA PARTY & GOP ARE TOO SEVERE IN THINKING AND DON’T WANT SHUT DOWN, AND THAT DEMS ARE BETTER AT MONEY MANAGING ECONOMY.

  • http://71.194.234.225 aceofwands

    Six months from now…We The People…will never notice their absence.

    • http://71.194.234.225 aceofwands

      Shut it down…

  • ATTILA

    No Man’s life liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session”.

    Judge Gideon Tucker

    (NOT mark Twain)

    shut down this parliament of whores

    • bacongreasenapalm

      Parliament of whores…Just about nails it.

  • http://www.thecitizenscall.com John Q Citizen

    Obama and the Left have been wrong on every policy decision of relevance to the American people. Shut down the Gov. until they accept fiscal responsibility. Then begin impeachment proceedings for the criminal misconduct of this (pseudo) executive.

  • Bobert

    555 PEOPLE–By Charlie Reese

    Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them..

    Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

    Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes,WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

    You and I don’t propose a federal budget. The President does.

    You and I don’t have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

    You and I don’t write the tax code, Congress does.

    You and I don’t set fiscal policy, Congress does.

    You and I don’t control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

    One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one President, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 555 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

    I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but PRIVATE, central bank.

    I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a President to do one cotton-picking thing. I don’t care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator’s responsibility to determine how he votes.

    Those 555 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

    What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall.

    No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits….. The President can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

    The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who was the speaker of the House? Nancy Pelosi.

    She was the leader of the majority party. She and fellow House members, not the President, can approve any budget they want. If the President vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

    It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million cannot replace 555 people who stand convicted — by present facts –of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can’t think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 555 people.

    When you fully grasp the plain truth that 555 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

    If the tax code is unfair, it’s because they want it unfair.

    If the budget is in the red, it’s because they want it in the red.

    If the Army & Marines are in Iraq and Afghanistan it’s because they want them in Iraq and Afghanistan …

    If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it’s because they want it that way.

    There are no insoluble government problems.

    Do not let these 555 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like “the economy,” “inflation,” or “politics” that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

    Those 555 people, and they alone, are responsible.

    They, and they alone, have the power..

    They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.

    Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees…

    We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

    Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.

  • TBeast

    To those who bash Democrats…This nation is a Democracy, which means when they are elected, they make the rules…it is not a crime and are not Anti-American, they just have a different POV.

    To those who bash Republicans…This nation is a Democracy, which means when they are elected, they make the rules…they have a different view of running the government, once again, not a crime, they just have a different POV.

    Both sides have their own issues. They both argue with each other and with themselves. Nobody “wants” a government shut down. Those who believe these kinds of articles are left or right wing mindless drones, who accept the endless rhetoric that is pumped from both sides. You get so riled up by the people who write these articles that you stop thinking for yourself and accept propaganda.

    And you know what, it’s pretty sad when a 26 year old needs to lecture grown adults on the principles of Democracy.

  • http://patdollard.com Average Joe

    TBeast…….You are stupid, just plain stupid.
    1) WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY!

    WE ARE A CONSTITUTION REPUBLIC!!!!!!!!!

    2) YES, LAWS ARE PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE, AND THEN ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ADMINISTERED BY THE PRESIDENT.

    BUT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE, AS THE CONSTITUTION REQUIRES IS THE LAW……EVEN BETWEEN ELECTIONS.

    IF THE PRESIDENT FAILS IN THAT, IT IS TREASON!!!!!!!

    WHEN THE PRESIDENT & DEMOCRATS DO NOT PASS A BUDGET BEFORE THE START OF THE FISCAL YEAR, THEN THEY HAVE BROKEN THE LAW……THEY NEED TO BE REMOVED, IT IS TREASON.

    IF THE NEXT CONGRESS IS THE ONE THAT PASSES THE BUDGET….THEN THAT IS THE BUDGET, NOT THE DEMS PURVIEW TO FUCK IT UP. IT IS TREASON

    ALL DEMS ARE GUILTY OF TREASON, AND IT IS TIME TO REMOVE THEM!!!!!!!!!

    • http://patdollard.com Average Joe

      “CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC”………sorry, too quick on the submit button

  • TBeast

    My instincts told me not to feed the troll, but I felt the need to express my view of objectivity.

    Clearly someone of your extensive political knowledge should know that I use the term “Democracy” in the context of a people-elected government.

    While I can not be certain, since I do not visit their site, I am sure there are those like you at MoveOn.org (a liberal-socialist propaganda machine as you would put it) that have the same view as you do, but towards the Republicans.

    My point is this. Every administration and every session of congress is going to have problems, even if they are Republican controlled or controlled by Democrats. I wonder if you have the objectivity or even the free will to call treason when Republicans mess up, or if you are just so entrenched that you could not possibly see faults within your own party.
    When it comes to that, it is extremism…you provide no national progress and blame the other guys when you feel you side is threatened. I would say this regardless of what party you were a member in.

    Take a step back and think about it, before you go on another all caps-lock count attack on how I am a Independent who only wants to legalize weed and has no sense of the need for fiscal government responsibilities.

    Also, learn what objectivity is. It is a helpful tool during debate when you can represent ALL SIDES, even though you may not personally support it.

    -Mr. Stupid