City Councilman Defends Naming His Dog ‘Muhammad’

September 23rd, 2011 (24) Posted By Angelia Phillips.

San Juan Capistrano Patch:

The San Juan Capistrano councilman says the choice was meant to teach his kids about freedom, not as an insult to Muslims. Two disapproving colleagues scold him for “unacceptable” comments.

Naming his dog Muhammad, and later announcing it during a public meeting, was not meant to be disparaging to Muslims, San Juan Capistrano Councilman Derek Reeve said Tuesday.

In offering the first explanation of why he chose the name, Reeve said it was a decision made by his family in an exercise of free speech after teaching his children that in some parts of the world they could be sentenced to death for doing so.

Reeve mentioned his dogs’ names Sept. 6 (the other is named America), as the council voted on plans for a dog park in the Northwest Open Space.

Dogs are traditionally considered unclean in the Arab world—a perception that caused Councilman Larry Kramer to ask the rest of the council to talk about proper decorum at Tuesday night’s City Council meeting.

“We are in a position of authority. It’s important we choose our words wisely,” Kramer said. “I hope the council will say this kind of speech is not OK.”

Kramer asked the council to discuss its standards of conduct and to rewrite its rules on decorum—requests that went unfulfilled.

Reeve, commenting on the 45-minute discussion that ensued with comments from the public, said, “What’s most offensive [to me] is that we’re not talking about anything important. We’re talking about my damned dog.”

Some residents agreed. Several who spoke during a public hearing said they preferred to have the council focus on other, more “pressing” issues, such as the city’s infrastructure, high water rates and finances.

Reeve at some points during his explanation got choked up. He said this week had been a difficult one, with a “terrorist organization” reprimanding him for his public declaration of his dog’s name.

Mayor Sam Allevato also had harsh words for Reeve.

“You have to be really careful about what you say” from the dais, Allevato cautioned. “These types of comments are not acceptable” and could lead to what some could consider a hostile work environment for City Hall employees, he said.

Allevato said a Muslim in the audience during the last City Council meeting was offended by Reeve’s remark. He also said allowing such comments to be made would be a “slippery slope.”

But Karen Lugo, a Riverside attorney who specializes in free speech, said “council members are free to speak in their individual capacity as public leaders.”

“There is just simply no authority” to regulate decorum, she said.

Although stories about Reeve’s comment got picked up by local and national media, Reeve said he received 100 emails supporting him.

On Friday, the Greater Los Angeles area office of the Council on American-Islamic Relations asked Reeve to apologize for his comment. In a press release, it said he showed “disrespect toward Islam’s revered prophet Muhammad by making [the] derisive public comment.”

“I’m asking for decorum on the dais. Yet if we can’t do that, all is lost,” Kramer said, adding that this is “not a Muslim issue.”

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  • bacongreasenapalm

    An insult to dogs.

  • Anonymous

    Dogs are cleaner that those Rock Chucking Goat Fuckers!

    • Steve F

      Yeah, dogs don’t wipe their asses with their hands/paws.

    • Steve F

      Yeah, dogs don’t wipe their asses with their hands/paws.

    • Steve F

      Yeah, dogs don’t wipe their asses with their hands/paws.

    • Steve F

      Yeah, dogs don’t wipe their asses with their hands/paws.

    • Steve F

      Yeah, dogs don’t wipe their asses with their hands/paws.

    • Steve F

      Yeah, dogs don’t wipe their asses with their hands/paws.

    • Steve F

      Yeah, dogs don’t wipe their asses with their hands/paws.

    • Steve F

      Yeah, dogs don’t wipe their asses with their hands/paws.

    • Steve F

      Yeah, dogs don’t wipe their asses with their hands/paws.

  • Lee Howard

    The city counsel and CAIR were right to reprimand the guy for insulting his dog.  Just wait ’till PETA weighs in on this!

    • Lee Howard

      “council”, darn it.

  • Sgsaur

    My dog took a great big dump in the back yard the other day that I named “Obama”.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MYQVREDND6BHSE5OQMW6CJVAOE Gary Indiana

    An FYI to ALL, This is the same City Council that has ticketed a Christian for having Bible Studies and a several for a joint-parent Home Schooling program as members of a local church.

    • http://knottiesniche.com Angelia Phillips

      Actually the family was ticketed for clogging the street with numerous cars repeatedly… not having bible study. 

    • Anonymous

      Wrong.  They were cited for not having proper permits to run a church.  Only the violently anti-christian left would mistake Bible study and Church.  Both are eeevil.

    • Anonymous

      Wrong.  They were cited for not having proper permits to run a church.  Only the violently anti-christian left would mistake Bible study and Church.  Both are eeevil.

  • Bobby E.

    It is an appropriate name because Muslims are dogs. On display at the WH is a mixed breed, mongrel, Heinz 57 variety of dog and an insane yapping mutt.

  • Ace727

    The san juan crapistaino council is correct, he should rename the mutt  barack hussein rughead.

  • Anonymous

    I had a boar hog about 10 years ago named muhammad. Don’t know why that was his name when I bought him, guess I never put it together. Now I got to get another one and name him the same just for free speeches sake.

  • Anonymous

    I had a boar hog about 10 years ago named muhammad. Don’t know why that was his name when I bought him, guess I never put it together. Now I got to get another one and name him the same just for free speeches sake.

  • remmy

    Isn’t that where the word “mutt” came from?

  • YERMOM

    it’s shorter that calling your dog….

    child molesting towel headed goat fucker