Absolutely love this!!!  There won’t be as many million dollar weddings, houses to decorate, pools to be built etc.  Yup, that is socialism, marxism and communism coming our way.  They’ll be praying for the freedom and social mobility of capitalism when they don’t have it anymore.

We’re the morons, eh? Well, we’ll just have to see about that, shall we? Thanks for the stellar PR. You guys rock!

gotta love when the occupy worthless scumbags come on here! LOLOLOLOL!!  QUIT your whining & bitching mother fuckers! 

keep banging on your lil drum circles! you fucking hippies! GET A FUCKIN JOB! take a mother fuckin shower while your at it!

 LOL maybe its called get a job stevie quit your lil bitching!

I have a job, and have worked since I was a teenager. I shower every day, could hardly be considered a hippy, and I come from a family of business owners. I, and most of the people I know in support of this movement, do not wish to stop anyone from making money, nor do we have an issue with legitimate, earned success. The writer of this note, as well as many commenters here are basing what you think on a few sound-bites of cherry-picked information spoon-fed to you. That you buy it shows an inability to think critically about a situation. We are against crony capitalism, not capitalism. We are against privatized profits and socialized losses. We are against our politicians being bought. We are for a return to Democracy. We are for a system that works for a sustainable economy with a strong middle-class. We are well aware that some people need to make more money for that system to work. 

Your simplistic “solutions” and mockery show as much ignorance as you claim to be pointing out. 

Learn to write. Learn to present an argument without having to resort to profanity and name-calling. 

There’s a lot of fear in that letter. Fear the OWS-ers know the game. All you have to do is the math to know there are no jobs, no real permante living wage jobs. !4 million unemployed by the BLS numbers and another 14 million in the U-6 category of underemployed. That puts the real unemployment at closer to 20% not 9%. There were only 3,056,000 job openings for August 2011, a drop of 4.89%, from the previous month of 3,213,000.according to JOLTS data. However that is misleading. A job opening doesn’t necessarily represent a position that a company intends to fill. Managers do it all the time create extra positions on paper with no intention to fill them so that they can show how under budget and what a great manager they are…

Next time someone gives you that get a job line, tell them to go back to school and do the math.

The person that wrote that letter is feeling the trickle up poverty nipping at their heels. Even if all 14 million unemployed were to land an Obama shovel-ready job at the WalMart it’s not enough to fund their social security and medicare that he expects others to pay for.– not enough to create disposable income to bid up his stocks, IRA, 401K, investments. So they want to intimidate others into working for poverty wages while they sit on their lazy a**es in their wall street jobs that make nothing of real lasting value. See guilting someone else into that slave labor job is what majes the company they invest in earn that profit that they collect.

Don’t kid yourself.they’re scared of losing it all

Trolls have invaded Dollard’s site as well, keep up the good work Pat.

Look Parker, Washington sets the rules Wall Street plays.  Check out what happened when Clinton repealed Glass-Steagal, also the Dodd Frank rule has a nice little gem called the DAC which is forcing MNC’s to utilize more outsourcing services and cutting domestic staff.  How do I know this, because the MNCs use my company to figure out what to outsource, how to do it and how to supply it.

Go to 1600 Penn Ave

Even they on “Wall Street” haven’t realized there are raptors above them, and I do not refer to the political class. Nope. I refer to their owners, who I now name the “Cannibal class”.

So then I take it you were against the bail outs? You know, the bailouts authorized by Bush and Obama, which is basically socializing losses. 

Smells like tea-party spirit!  If occupy wall street has been victimized by the media “sound bitten, cherry pickin,” then you must agree the same has happened to the tea party.  I just want all supporters of OWS to know that if this is just about a return to democracy, then the tea party can only respond with a Vader-esque :”OCCUPY, I AM YOUR FATHERRRRRRRRRR”

True.  If people were honest (or informed), it’s unlikely they would want Wall Street to look out for the better interest of the economy as a whole.  That’s not their role.  Their role is to make as much money as possible for their investors, and I doubt anybody would realistically want it any other way.  That’s not to necessarily say “something” can’t be done.  But it seems like they’re asking the wrong questions, or asking the wrong group.

Hubris is the stench of fear. This cocaine fueled rant reeks of panic and cowardice. Start sending out those resumes, traders. Wal*Mart is hiring.

What did you spend your taxpayer funded bonus on?

And I compared the OP to a learning disabled kid, appropriate as his Ritalin has obviously worn off.

Someones Ritalin has worn off.

LMFAO!!!!   i dont know all this shitting on cars, sex , drugs calling for the destruction of jews & Israel, singing fuck the USA, having the nazi party join  yea ok haahahah!!  oh  & by the way  this aint a democracy its a republic bitch  go educate your mother fucking brain!

Very good point EAM Legal.  On another note I think one of the problems w/ the pamphlet is that the author believes his large tip and other purchases were solely powering the economy.  Seems a little bit of a stretch, doesn’t it?  You are not likely to appeal to a majority when you start shredding teachers, either.  Just my two cents

Yep….I’ve read that note several times and I’m about “99%” sure, that no banker wrote it! It looks more like a rant that some shitbird college freshman wrote! Improper spelling, grammer, punctuation and indentation speaks volumns!

So..all you trols take note..one of your ilk probably wrote it….mostly because it looks like the work of a 4th grader! 

awwww are your just so smart Steveo  , to bad your parents were failures & didnt teach you what you needed to learn… now run along lil mother fucker!

actually you need to go educate your fuckin brain! lil too brain dead are we sweetie? 

Aww pautard, did I hurt your feelings?  Remember, wetting the bed and being cruel to small animals is not healthy, now, go get your Ritalin prescription filled.

The country would be just fine without Wall Street.

Tard, what did I tell you about that Ritalin!!

Persense, spread your opinion to your Occupy co-conspirators.  Because they don’t feel the way you feel.  Video after video shows that most have no idea of even why they are there trashing the environment at the rallys?

The note is making the false presumption that Occupy protesters want to “Take Away” the jobs of people on wall street.  That is absolutely incorrect; they want to reduce the disproportionate influence that many in wall street and multinational corporations have on our politicians / government policies.  If that influence is the only thing keeping their job around, then yes, they will lose their job.  If, however, they are truly contributing to the free market and as productive as the letter says, they will have no problem if they lose their disproportionate influence on our government.

Yes, I was against the bail-outs.

Actually, I have conceded and mentioned on several occasions that the Tea Party was also subject to “cherry-picked sound-bytes”, never mind having been co-opted. When the Tea Party first started forming I remember thinking, “there’s the outrage for what’s wrong”. Additionally I recognize that while the Tea Party and OWS don’t always agree on the sources of the problems, that we have this many people in our country outraged is a clear sign that we need serious change. I’m all for whatever sane solutions will get us there. OWS uses Wall Street symbolically to represent what they think is wrong, but they do not trust the government or any political party. The only evidence for aligning with any politician I’ve seen is around Ron Paul, who being a Libertarian could hardly be considered leftist.

So wait, when this was from a Wall Streeter it was cool, but if it’s from an OWSer it’s not? I think you have a future in flip-flop politics.

Debating, communicating, and debunking is not equal to trolling. In fact, your post aligns more with the definition of trolling, especially when one considers that you attack the writer of the note for spelling, grammar etc when your comment is full of errors. I am neither angry nor trying to provoke anyone. I commented because it is tiring to hear people parroting what they’ve heard from a few sources without digging deeply enough into news to get a more accurate picture. I’ve been to two marches and the crowd around me was very diverse, most of them employed. So the claims that people supporting the movement are just jobless whiners is patently false.

This “flier” is obviously a staged plant by the very administration/radical globalist multimillionaire leftists that are the big money and the big noise behind these Occupy demonstrations.  It’s part of the same agenda in full play across the US: in only the democratic-party run cities are the radical occupy-ers given a hard time, and in Chicago Ron Emmanuel “refuses” to give a demonstration permit! Why? To add fuel to the fire, folks! To heat things up, and have asmuch hatred flying within our borders as possible! “Never let a crisis go to waste” and if necessary, create your own! This is all to further the radicalpower base… through the innocence of the good hearted writer; Parker, below, a fine idealistic american, and try and turn his intelligent appraisal of the corruption of wall street and stimulus packages and bailouts, to their own “side”… BEFORE he notices that Obama, and all his Union/Wallstreet allies, were the very crooks who designed and built that bridge to financial pain, corruption and ruin, while lining THEIR own pockets.

In my city our public school just received our “reward” for being a democratic party city, from the 2008 Stimulus Package, the very thing to help rebuild our economy, and stimulate jobs, at the cost of our hard earned taxdollars:  you’ll never guess what we got: 25 full size, adult Rocknroll stage quality,  new electric keyboards, for music classes FOR KINDERGARTNERS!
Whoopee!   Dont be fooled, this whole Occupy is nothing but precampaign ignoble radical democrat street theater.

I applaud the intelligent americans who are idealistic, honest democrats, but your party has been hijacked by radicals working Alinsky’s “Rules for radicals” to bring down this country, so THEY can personally take it over. Let’s not let them.  

Well, first of all bonehead, I never claimed to be an english major! You missed my point completely! Now how do you like me?
Second, I never attacked you, so STFU!
Third, why are you now claiming to dig into news stories when your earlier post condemned people on here for paying attention to the news?
And last but not least, Im a regular supporter of PatDollard.com, and not the TROLL, you are accusing me of! You’re the TROLL. When I come seek you out and attack you, then you can call me a TROLL! In the mean time, keep your attacks off me bitch!
 

If it’s real, it’s unattributed unimaginative drivel.  If it’s a fake, it’s unimaginative fiction.  We all have better things to spend our time on that this garbage.    ”Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.”
Groucho Marx

What? You don’t make sense.  You’re for capitalism, but against “privatized” profits? Just what other kind of profit is there? How can you be for capitalism and against profit?

Secondly, outside of this contradiction, the rest of your position(s) are more aligned with theTea Party than they are with the communists, the labor unions, and the other radical elements who have attached themselves to this movement.  Look around you because these are the groups joining you, and they don’t have the same agenda you claim to support. 

Finally, you’re protesting the wrong people.  The problem is in Washington, not Wall Street.

Against crony capitalism? Then you are protesting in the wrong place, Persense Parker 
Remember the three former Fannie Mae executives who helped bring down Wall Street?
WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
Franklin Raines works for the Obama Campaign as his Chief Economic Advisor.
Tim Howard is a Chief Economic Advisor to Obama under Franklin Raines.
Jim Johnson was hired as a Senior Obama Finance Advisor and was selected to run Obama’s Vice Presidential Search Committee

Q: How do you stop “crony capitalism?”

In order to limit Wall Street’s influence in Washington, and subsequently cut down on crony capitalism, you must limit cut down on investment in capital markets.  Capital gains taxes and the “hidden” inflation tax subtly force people into capital markets where they would otherwise stick their money under their pillow.  These policies come directly from Washington (and by Congresses abdication of authority the Fed).  This artificially inflated market had 61% of the US people invested in the Street’s success or failure, prior to the 2008 crash.  These are the people the author of “We are Wall Street” speaks to in his letter and begs the question “Who are the 99%?”  I take you at your word that you are against crony capitalism, the problem is the bulk of the OWS movement doesn’t know what crony capitalism is and lack the gestalt thinking necessary to do anything it.  Their anger manifests itself at capitalism and they start looking for alternatives.  The problem; the popular alternatives socialism/facism (insert argument about the practical similarities between the two systems) are actually the systems that bring about these problems.  I have been to Zucotti Park and what you say about “we” over and over is not true; “we” does not exist.  The scene in the Park is a gathering of groups clustered in areas, many talking about different, often conflicting issues.  Some, to their credit, provide credible solutions to their perceived problems, which serves to further divide the OWS crowd.  

I understand your anger with “Wall Street,” I just can’t help but feel that it is misplaced and you’ve been duped.  Politicians, with media backing, prey on people who work hard and don’t have the time to dig into political issues.  Instead they speak in platitudes and when the heat picks up they toss the bloody knife to their partner in crime and tell the police they caught the criminal.  Two years ago when people really started digging into what Chris Dodd and Barney Frank had said and done into the lead up to the financial crisis, they threw AIG under the bus and started screaming about golden parachutes.  This is what created the tea party and from what I see much of what you say lends to that crowd:

“Against crony capitalism” – Tea Party
“Against socialized losses” – Tea Party
“Against politicians being bought” – Tea Party
“Strong middle class” – Tea Party
“We are for a return to Democracy” – WE WERE NEVER A DEMOCRACY!  We live in a constitutional republic.  Read Federalist #10, paying particular attention to what Madison says about factions, to understand why this is an important distinction.

A: You do not do not stop crony capitalism by going after the capitalist.  In this sense Wall Street is a constant; they have always been and will always be attack dogs.  The “We are Wall Street” letter author illustrates this point.  You have to go after those that eliminate their moral hazard and the creative destruction inherent to healthy economies.

I’m actually a little bit concerned that was written by David Mamet.

It wasn’t Fannie Mae that brought down Wall St.- it was the other way around.  If you had a clue, you’d know.  That’s why protesting Wall St. is the correct target.

I both love and support this.  I currently feed off of the lost liberal souls for a living, it feeds me well, and I will continue to be successful at devouring the incompetent.  I support this letter, its method of delivery, its psychological impact… and agree with its content regardless of whomever wrote it.

The people of this movement are no victims… they are not entitled to the land they pitched their tarp on.  If they throw fecal matter, bottles, rocks at police… then I support the police gassing them and beating them to a bloody pulp in retaliation.  If Oakland is such a liberal haven, ask yourself why that’s where the violence started?  Those law enforcers are LOCALS, and locals from a LIBERAL government system.  Conservatives don’t riot.  Strangely, they’re the best-armed and equipped to do so.

I will continue to taunt and harass the “useful idiots” of OWS, as it is my 1st amendment right.  Once their pointless, inarticulate, unscrupulous mission runs out of steam and they resort to violence… I will rely on my 2nd amendment rights to keep the fools at bay.  I will celebrate the nation-wide news once push comes to shove.  Darwin wrote about these kinds of creatures.  The people of OWS rely on science rather than God, yet ignore the writings of their own evolutionary “prophet”.  They are not equipped to survive in the world they wish to create.

“Quick Ned, thin out their numbers”.

This is a sincere request for an explanation from anyone that genuinely knows the answer to either or all of the following questions.  I am asking because I have not been able to figure it out:

1. What do OWS people want?
2. What would they do if they got what they want?
3. Who is funding OWS?

Are you implying the country would be fine with out Investment Banks, Commercial banks and Money mangement firms? Are you serious? You are kidding right? So we should we just go back to bartering with what we grow and farm?

Ooooooh, threats from an anonymus person online.  I do believe I may have the vapors as I clutch my pearls. What ever will I do against you and your army of no one?

this is chain mail and is over a year old.  it was not dropped from anywhere, on anyone.  

this is chain mail and is over a year old.  it was not dropped from anywhere, on anyone.  

The letter being dropped now is false. If you bother to search for the letter you will see instances of it back in 2010. I only did a quick search. So getting this letter from a trusted source is not so trustful.

http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2010/04/30/217381/we-are-wall-street-we-are-smarter-and-more-vicious-than-dinosaurs/

Persence, “We are against crony capitalism, not capitalism”  THAT IS YOUR MISTAKE AND WHY CONSERVATIVES CAN NOT SUPPORT YOU!  WE ARE AGAINST THE CRONIES – NOT THE CAPITOLISM!  DO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE?

Would be interesting to see how many of them have already paid it back. Our banks over here? Those that were bailed out? Already paid it all back. How’s that for performance?

The US has never been a democracy. It’s a republic.

Your idea of a strong middle class won’t fly. You want proof? Check the EU. The middle class there is dying while carrying the out of control welfare states and similar pipe dreams from politicians and lazy non-achievers alike.

Your politicians will always be bought! That’s how the game works. Politicians crave one thing: power. And they will do whatever it takes to get that power.

What you occupiers don’t realize is A) you’re not the 99%, pray that the 99% never rise up, and B) your biggest enemy are the politicians.

You want a lot, but how are you going to get it? None of you people has a plan. All you do is sit in the dirt and scream. Your fringe protests are a joke. Yes, fringe. How many are there of you? A few thousand. Unimpressive. The global protests are even smaller than that. Do you know why? because the 99% have jobs, work to do, taxes to pay. Taxes that are used to feed the non-achievers of the occupy movement.

As for profits vs losses. Uhm… guess what, all the banks that were bailed out over here have already paid the money back. Oh the noes. Why is the national debt of my country still out of control? Because of politicians! Politicians who spend money they don’t have! There is your problem.

Yes, there is class warfare. It’s the tax paying, working citizen vs the lying politician and their stormtroopers. Pray that we tax paying, working 99% never rise up. Because if we do, things will get UGLY. Remember 1789? That’s how it’ll be. Cover your necks politicians and communists.

LOL, Great letter and I bet it did  exactly what it was meant to do. Made all the little whiners foam at the mouth.  It certainly worked that way here.
 (Pat, we’ll gather up a donation for a couple of cans of “trollicide”)

These people (term used loosely) from group to group, have no idea WHAT they are about. As of today, the group of hippies in L.A. are fighting each other for domination, (and I’m fucking AMUSED)
 We need to treat these groups like we need to treat ghettos, Fence them off and air drop in drugs, 3 days latter, air drop more drugs and GUNS, 3 days after that, go in and arrest the hand full left for murder. Burn whats left.

Human nature will win this fight, “WE” only need to help it along a little.

Stupid hippies.

If this guy was so goddamn smart and going to take everyone’s jobs he would have figure this out along time ago instead he threatens …sounds like a scared individual uncertain of his own future trying to sell to himself that he will be ok once he loses his job well buddy I got news for ya the unemployment line is long and you will become just another face in the crowd if I were you I’d sharpen up my resume and be sure not to include wall street in it as I would say to any follow American the best of luck to you and I hope you find work soon

Why would we take away a person’s right to do with their money what they will and say that solves the problem? We need to have enough capital in the capital markets at all times to keep expanding our economic base so that it is large enough to support enough ongoing job growth for everyone who needs or wants a job as demographics change. For people who say they support capitalism, your solution seems like a direct attack on it, one that would not be without the exact opposite effect of what you say you want. It doesn’t fix high finance players being too cozy with regulators, the Fed, and politicians. The only way you can do it effectively is to get that stuff away from them, decentralize the regulatory apparatus so they cannot fudge the game in one place, the centralized economic planning system, and take the whole country down when they screw up. It is the whole idea of centralized economic planning that allowed all of what has taken place to occur, not what people do with their money.

What you say about the Tea Party never has been and never will be. 

The government’s “debts” are the result of multi-national corporations and the richest individuals (the top .0%) taking their money out of the system, via off-shoring, like basing themselves in the Cayman Islands.  They reap the majority the benefits, then ask everyone else to pay for things like the infrastructure and the military.  Those are the facts, bub.  Which makes Wall St, not DC, the correct place to protest.

The government’s “debts” are the result of multi-national corporations and the richest individuals (the top .0%) taking their money out of the system, via off-shoring, like basing themselves in the Cayman Islands.  They reap the majority the benefits, then ask everyone else to pay for things like the infrastructure and the military.  Those are the facts, bub.  Which makes Wall St, not DC, the correct place to protest.

That’s actually not a democracy, then.  You can’t just complain to a President and have him say, “Ok, I’ll change that tomorrow.”  The actual rude awakening is ignorant people thinking that true capitalism exists within this country in the way it did for our parents, grandparents, etc.  The American dream is hardly attainable due to there being old rules trying to reign in a new game.  I’m an asset management partnership tax compliance guy so I’ve seen plenty of 1065′s, and individual K1′s that show amazing levels of income within an industry that has ZERO regulation.  Crony capitalism.  Believe me, I don’t want Wall Street to go away, I make a lot of money because of them by actually, advising them on processes like Aggregation and Allocation methodology.  Mutual funds = highly regulated, Private Equity = kinda regulated, REOF’s= Kinda regulated, Hedging activities, flow through entities, and the like are not regulated.  You’ve lived your whole life being regulated, wanna remove water regulation?  Poopy water must taste great.  Electrical code regulation?  It’s great when a house full of kids burns to the ground due to an electrical fire because Joe Shmo wired the house.  I agree, Big Govt is NOT the answer but fair rules also should exist or we may as well live in Rwanda.  The key to regulation is ensuring an even playing field for all without playing favorites.  Yeah, that’s really hard.  Was is fair for Don Regan to help push laws that helped his former Merrill Lynch high net worth buddies? NO!  Is it cool that the older than dirt land line telephone system can charge rediculous rates for service because they are the only choice you have?  (yes, the age of the cell phone but it’s still messed up how the telecoms were broken apart but yet allowed to reassemble and will eventually be even worse than pre 1984, if they are not already).

That’s actually not “a socialism” nor is it what they are actually pushing for.  One should be careful when trying to cherry pick one of the many messages that movement is trying to put out.  Just because some of their messages are nutty, doesn’t mean they all are.  That’s generalizing and stereotyping.

That’s actually not “a socialism” nor is it what they are actually pushing for.  One should be careful when trying to cherry pick one of the many messages that movement is trying to put out.  Just because some of their messages are nutty, doesn’t mean they all are.  That’s generalizing and stereotyping.

But who wants to see videos of people making sense?  We are a paparazzi society that loves to watch train wrecks on youtube.  It’s always the idiots that are on display.  If there’s lets say a million occupiers and a hundred videos of idiotic occupiers, doesn’t sound like a very big % to me.  Do you think America’s Funniest Home Videos would pale in comparison to America’s Most Normal Home Videos?  Of course not, who wants to watch the normal people?

If- you are against crony capitalism, but not capitalism, than you are more of a tea-partier than OWS.  Why?
because we are seeing “this” play out before our eyes every day.

http://www.redstate.com/laborunionreport/files/2011/09/Slide1.jpg

Nothing like that has ever happened. If you’re going to make a charge, back it up.  I have been to four t-parties, and there are no Nazis or Israel bashers. You are a liar.

Nothing like that has ever happened. If you’re going to make a charge, back it up.  I have been to four t-parties, and there are no Nazis or Israel bashers. You are a liar.

Nothing like that has ever happened. If you’re going to make a charge, back it up.  I have been to four t-parties, and there are no Nazis or Israel bashers. You are a liar.

He says “storm the whitehouse” and then calls someone else an idiot. Classic irony. You storm the white house, I will film you being beat down and post it on you tube. Then I will also collect the advertising money from all of the views it will get.

He says “storm the whitehouse” and then calls someone else an idiot. Classic irony. You storm the white house, I will film you being beat down and post it on you tube. Then I will also collect the advertising money from all of the views it will get.

He says “storm the whitehouse” and then calls someone else an idiot. Classic irony. You storm the white house, I will film you being beat down and post it on you tube. Then I will also collect the advertising money from all of the views it will get.

That sounds amazing actually. Self sufficiency. I have a plethora of marketable skills to trade with. What does wall street have to barter with, to put food on the table, without the hard earned money of American citizens? I hope thu have better life skills than gambling with another’s money.

That sounds amazing actually. Self sufficiency. I have a plethora of marketable skills to trade with. What does wall street have to barter with, to put food on the table, without the hard earned money of American citizens? I hope thu have better life skills than gambling with another’s money.