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Ballot Box Beatdown: Tea Party Out-Organizing #Occupy Movement For 2012 Election



Nov 24, 2011 24 Comments ›› Pat Dollard

The Daily Caller:

In an exclusive interview with The Daily Caller, Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) founder and Service Employees International Union organizer Wade Rathke acknowledged that the tea party movement has been more effective than Occupy Wall Street in influencing American politics.

Rathke was unequivocal about the Occupy movement, telling The DC that “in no way has it had the political impact that the tea party movement has.” Yet because Occupy organizing is “still in its embryonic stages” while tea partiers have been organizing for more than two years, he cautions that “comparing the tea party movement to OWS is apples and oranges.”

While watching ACORN implode in the United States, Rathke has thrived in his new role as community organizer to the world by remaking ACORN International, known as Community Organization International in the U.S., into a worldwide community organization with near-global reach and power. And former ACORN board members say Rathke’s remarkable global turnaround is proof that most observers completely missed ACORN’s bigger picture and its broader goals.

Rathke generally had positive things to say about both the tea party and Occupy movements. “They are substantially mobilizing individuals around a set of principles,” he added. “It’s fascinating that they’re both appealing to many of the same people.”

That’s a point on which Matthew Vadum, a conservative investigative reporter whose book-length deconstruction of ACORN hit stores in May, disagrees. His book opens with the provocative question, “How many dead Republicans does it take to satisfy the bloodlust of ACORN founder Wade Rathke?” referring to his contention that ACORN leaders planned “to kill delegates and police” at the 2008 Republican national Convention in Minnesota, before a turncoat helped law-enforcement dismantle the plot.

Vadum sees a world of difference between right-wing tea partiers and left-wing occupiers. “The only point upon which both agree is their hate of bailouts,” he told The DC. “But that’s it. Zuccotti Park is a small park … The tea party attracted thousands and tens of thousands to their rallies; OWS attracts tens and maybe hundreds. When the tea party rally was over, the tea party left. OWS refuses to leave.”

Rathke said scenes of tea party activists shouting down politicians at town hall events reflected poorly on their movement. But he also acknowledged that scenes of public defecation, drug use, fighting and other violence also left an indelible impression.

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  • Anonymous

    There is no new political party.  These are movements, but they are not organized.

    • Anonymous

      Yeh! The Tea Party is definitely political and very well organized. The OWS is just an ignorant mob.

    • Anonymous

      If you look closely you will find the Koch brothers organized the Tea Party and financed it. You will not find it registered anywhere as a political party, and there is not much grass roots organization.

    • http://patdollard.com USMC3112

      From this humble beginning a movement was born. The Tea Party Movement, born from obscurity, without funding, without planning, is a spontaneous force shaking the very glass foundation of the oligarchy that rules in our name, but without our blessing. The koch brothers? There is no evidence of them organizing, with them funding the Tea Party, they seek mail in donations for goodness sake.
      OWS is funded by seiu, gm, george soros, demcrat party organized by van jones,david axelrod, crafted by barack husien obama in his earlier days as a community agitator, acorn, beradine dhorn, bill ayers, authored by saul aliensky rules for radicals, the weatherman underground. The list is endless..

    • http://patdollard.com USMC3112

      Nothing like saying the same thing twice. oooops. lol

    • Montizzle

      Its all good.  :-D

    • YERMOM

       you could say it a thousand times and that fucking moron sandra would continue sucking on her toes and not hear a word of it.

    • Denise

      I could’nt agree more!!!!!

    • http://patdollard.com USMC3112

      Nothing like saying the same thing twice. oooops. lol

    • http://patdollard.com USMC3112

      From this humble beginning a movement was born. The Tea Party Movement, born from obscurity, without funding, without planning, is a spontaneous force shaking the very glass foundation of the oligarchy that rules in our name, but without our blessing. Where is there evidence the koch brothers, organized and gave money to the TP? OWS was authored by saul aleinsky rules for radicals, organized by barack hussein obama community agitator and marxist,carried out by van jones, and david axelrod, funded by george soros, seiu, gm,demacrat party,bernadine dhorn,bill ayers,weatherman underground, acorn. The list is endless…

    • YERMOM

      you are fucking retarded. the Koch brothers have nothing to do with the TEA Party other than possibly being a member. they are financing nothing

    • YERMOM

      you are fucking retarded. the Koch brothers have nothing to do with the TEA Party other than possibly being a member. they are financing nothing

    • mrglib

      Get your head outta your ass Sandra… You are so full of crap…

    • http://twitter.com/antipas777 jack dean barker

      I guess the Koch brothers are better at organizing than George Sorros?!!!

    • http://twitter.com/antipas777 jack dean barker

      I guess the Koch brothers are better at organizing than George Sorros?!!!

    • Anonymous

      Sandra, I see you still have a severe case of CRI…. Cranial Rectal Inversion

    • Anonymous

      The Tea Party has endorsed candidates in elections already – who is the OWS candidate for any upcoming elections?
      If there was no grass roots organization for the Tea Party, then how have they been so successful in motivating so many regular joes to the cause? Grass roots motivation is where their strength lies – they don’t have to pay for bussed in union mobs at their protests – real tea party supporters actually show up!!

    • Anonymous

      What about all the tea party buses?

      The point is, neither is a political party. They are movements. There are no official tea party candidates because there is no official tea party.
      Both these movements can inspire grass roots involvement. That is the best of the results. It is important that all of us pay attention and work to get the government we want.
      Many of us have given up on the traditional parties. Probably what they both need is more grass roots involvement to make the parties live and responsive.

    • Anonymous

      There is no case that I have seen reported of the Tea Party bussing in fake protesters to fill out their numbers. – if the Tea Party was there, it was because they were true believers, not paid off fakes.

    • Anonymous

      There is no case that I have seen reported of the Tea Party bussing in fake protesters to fill out their numbers. – if the Tea Party was there, it was because they were true believers, not paid off fakes.

    • Anonymous

      Who paid for the buses?

    • Anonymous

      The Tea Party has endorsed candidates in elections already – who is the OWS candidate for any upcoming elections?
      If there was no grass roots organization for the Tea Party, then how have they been so successful in motivating so many regular joes to the cause? Grass roots motivation is where their strength lies – they don’t have to pay for bussed in union mobs at their protests – real tea party supporters actually show up!!

    • Anonymous

      The Tea Party has endorsed candidates in elections already – who is the OWS candidate for any upcoming elections?
      If there was no grass roots organization for the Tea Party, then how have they been so successful in motivating so many regular joes to the cause? Grass roots motivation is where their strength lies – they don’t have to pay for bussed in union mobs at their protests – real tea party supporters actually show up!!

    • Anonymous

      If you look closely you will find the Koch brothers organized the Tea Party and financed it. You will not find it registered anywhere as a political party, and there is not much grass roots organization.