Yes it will, and I will be on the front line.

Anyone else ?

Yes it will, and I will be on the front line.

Anyone else ?

I’m Mormon but I’m with ya. Because it won’t long before they come knocking on our door in demand to surrender. I’m looking forward to the day Obama is impeached. …or better yet, arrested, escorted out of the White House and then tried for his treasonous acts.

um, it looks to me like the war was declared on the Catholics

In July 1965 a Gallup poll asked Catholic Americans if they thought their Church
would ever approve of birth control. Sixty-one percent of the
respondents replied yes. There was just cause for optimism. Oral
contraceptives had been on the market for five years, and had not been
banned by the Pope.

Change in the Air
Within the hierarchy of the Church, both bishops and priests around the
world were boldly speaking out in favor of contraception and especially
the Pill. The Church had convened a papal commission to study the issue,
and reports leaking out from the meeting suggested change was in the
air. There was a general consensus that the commission would recommend
liberalizing the Church’s policy. It was just a question of when.

Rock’s Argument for the Pill
In the mid-1960s, one of the Pill’s most prominent Catholic advocates, Dr. John Rock,
insisted that the Pill should be acceptable to the Roman Catholic
Church as a variant of the rhythm method. He was confident that the
Vatican would eventually accept his argument that the Pill was a “natural” form of birth control and allow Catholic women to use it for contraception.

The Pope’s Encyclical

It was not to be. On the morning of July 25, 1968, the Vatican called a
press conference to announce its decision on the Pill. In the papal
encyclical entitled Humanae Vitae (“Of Human Life”), Pope Paul VI
ended the speculation over oral contraceptives and birth control once
and for all. He reaffirmed the Church’s traditional teachings and
classified the Pill as an artificial method of birth control. To go on
the Pill or use any other contraceptive device would constitute nothing
less than a mortal sin.

Singling Out the Pill
In addition to condemning abortion and sterilization, the Pope singled
out the Pill for its role in separating the act of sex from procreation.
The Pill, Humanae Vitae declared, “opened up a wide and easy
road… toward conjugal infidelity and the general lowering of morality.
Man, growing used to contraceptive practices, may lose respect for the
woman and come to the point of considering her as a mere instrument of
selfish enjoyment, and no longer as his respected and beloved
companion.”

Disappointment Among Catholics
John Rock had lobbied long and hard in favor of the Pill, and Humanae Vitae
was a bitter disappointment. “The hierarchy has made another terrible
mistake,” was all he could say publicly on the subject. Rock was not
alone in his reaction. In the United States there was an immediate
groundswell of resistance. At Catholic University in Washington, D.C.,
two thousand demonstrators, many of them priests and nuns, gathered to
voice their dissent. A number of priests even resigned in response to
the Vatican’s decision.

Public Opinion
Even though John Rock had lost the battle with the Vatican, Catholics
around the world agreed with his view. A Gallup poll taken only a month
after the encyclical found that only 28% of American Catholics favored
the Vatican’s stance. Among Catholics in their twenties, 8 out of 10
disagreed with the pope.

Ignoring the Vatican
Within just two years of Humanae Vitae, almost as many Catholic
women used the Pill as non-Catholics. By 1970, two-thirds of all
Catholic women and three-quarters of those under 30 were using the Pill
and other birth control methods banned by the Church. In 2002, Humanae Vitae
still defined the Church’s position on birth control, and many
observers of the Church believed that it contributed to the erosion of
the Vatican’s authority during the last decades of the twentieth
century.
 

I’m not overly religious my wife is the church goer who prays for my sins but I stand with ya. The enemy of my enemy is my best friend in this administrations case!

I would think that Front Line is going to be HUGE……..   

To me it seems that the Vatican Does not rule the Catholic church of the United States, while this may cause some bishops to vote against the health care reform I seriously doubt that it would cause all the Catholic women to vote against this measure, especially since they rely on birth control nearly as much as the rest of the women in the country, and for that fact I know many of their men will be in support of this as well. After reading several articles about birth control and what the Catholics are actually believing and doing here in the United States Of America seem to be much more in alignment with the President of the United States then do they with the the Pope and the Vatican and their decision on birth control and from what I know of my Catholic friends this will not likely affect their votes, but I do suppose it may some. Just so glad my church does not force that on its people, and the Mormons can believe what eever they want as well, but most of us realize the world is populated enough, that mankind will not suddenly parish over this, but rather it will allow us to not over populate the earth and there for have shared resources in which for mankind to go on with:)

 Gloria Patri, et Filio, et Spiritui Sancto. Sicut erat in principio, et nunc, et semper, et in saecula saeculorum.

Amen.

Looks like to me, “it’s time to get up in their faces” like he said about us in the 08 campaign. The black devil muuuuuuuuslim in the white house makes it MORE PERSONAL EVERYDAY!

Then your Catholic friends are not good Catholics Terry Lake the U.S Constitution says that we are allowed to have freedom of religion in the Bill Of Rights as per our Founding Fathers why don’t you and the rest of the wanna be Eurotrash get the hell out if you don’t like that document.

One thing we all have to be aware of is this, the all out assault on God and the Church will end up uniting all Christianity and when it does they will be shaking in their boots… They are making a mistake by the continued assault and they continue to use our forgiveness as a sign of weakness that has began to run out, we will only turn the other cheek so many times and then we will not turn it any more and I think this time is here. Amen!  Unite in the Church!

One thing we all have to be aware of is this, the all out assault on God and the Church will end up uniting all Christianity and when it does they will be shaking in their boots… They are making a mistake by the continued assault and they continue to use our forgiveness as a sign of weakness that has began to run out, we will only turn the other cheek so many times and then we will not turn it any more and I think this time is here. Amen!  Unite in the Church!

I don’t know about anyone else, but I only have 4 cheeks to turn; and that’d be my face and ass. I think they’ll find more forgiveness with fat people. Like, oh…I dunno know…maybe Rosie O’donnell or Oprah Winfrey for starters.

 Yeah, this coming from some goofy looking schmuck who has ‘The Birdcage’ and ‘Steel Magnolias’ listed as his favorite films.

Go away, leftist homosexual. Your kind isn’t welcome here.

It DOESN’T MATTER that it’s about birth control.  It DOESN’T MATTER that it’s about availablity of sterilization or abortions.  What the POINT is is that the government is EGREGIOUSLY violating our First Amendment rights! 

And, let’s be honest.  What a SHAME that we did not have a revolt, as Catholics, in 1973.  Think of the 55 million babies we have let down because we’ve been afraid to stand up for our faith!  SHAME ON US.

Terry, Terry, Terry, you are missing the point I fear. Step back and see the big picture. Our gov., that we (ideally) supposedly give the authority to govern us, does NOT have the authority to dictate to a church/religion that they must pay for or provide birth control or ANYTHING. Our Constitution does not give them authority to do a lot of the things the Obamanation is doing.

Who would of thought that the insurrection would start with the Catholic church?

Do what they do in the black churches.  Hand out voter registration forms outside every Catholic and Christian church on Sunday.

Great analogy. One giant step for mankind, one giant step on his dong.

In the name of Christ, I shall fight.

 - You’re a good man.

You’re a clown. Nobody is violating your first amendment rights. If the Church is going to run an organization like a hospital and accept federal funds, that organization has to comply with basic health requirements. The Church itself is not affected.

Of course it’s effected. It’s a shabby attempt by government to quash religious beliefs. A catholic hospital giving abortions???? Give me a break.

Well, if I’m a clown, at least I’m funnier than this situation, because this shit ain’t funny.  You may not seem to care that the Catholic Church is being forced to go against its own doctrine, which is protected in the Bill of Rights — in as much as Jehovah’s Witnesses are allowed to die without medical treatment and the Amish are allowed to reject the ‘English’ way of life as well.  What makes them (the JWs or Amish) better than the Catholics?  Nothing, except that the Catholic Church does not take its lead from the US Government.  Catholics believe the ultimate top of the heirarchy of the Church (i.e., the pope, cardinals and bishops) was established by Christ Himself. 

I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock, I will build My Church, and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it.  Matthew 16:18

Why would a little bullying from the government stop them?

Obama could be the Antichrist.

My comment is going to inccurr some wrath I am sure. I do not mean it to be anti-chatholic or anitchristian but I’m sure that it will be taken that way. If this goes into effect and it is forced on everyone to comply will it really matter since those abiding by the doctrine of the Chatholic Church will never use it so I don’t see what the fuss is about and if any of the Church orginizations employs non-Church members (shock, shhock, horror, horror) shouldn’t those employee’s be entitled to receive the same beniffits that everyone else at non-Church orginizations have available to them?

Although I am protestant, I support the effort to declare the new so-called health care UN-constutional on these grounds and many, many others.

Although I am protestant, I support the effort to declare the new so-called health care UN-constutional on these grounds and many, many others.