They fucking misspelled Marine Corps.  And never in the lexicon of military terminology is a Marine referred to as “Marine Corp soldier.”

 I know.

you obviously are not a Marine

Well when this scumbag tries some martial law bullshit, I am sure this is bound to make many military say “Fuck off traitor in chief”

ARRESTED!

With all due respect, I myself or anyone that in know of have not heard of this. Just scuttlebutt..

Even though this is also being reported on Military.com, there’s something about this that isn’t being explained fully…….don’t get me wrong, i despise Obama as much as anyone, but not sure if this is being reported right…..after emailing back and forth today with several vets i believe this this will be cleared up in a few days…….anyone on active duty that knows any different, please speak up…….

The rest of the article is complete BS.  Some kid gets an e-mail that he doesn’t understand, so this website decides to make a big deal out of it without verifying the source…….

Treason…

http://www.nps.gov/revwar/unfinished_revolution/treason.htm

Treason…

http://www.nps.gov/revwar/unfinished_revolution/treason.htm

The one thing the gov’t is supposed to do is protect us.  Instead of paying the people that protect us while in a hostile land Obama would rather give welfare checks for votes. 

It is if you were ever a Marine !

Amen Brother and Semper Fi, We ARE MARINES!!!!!!!  There is a difference, many have gotten a beat down for making this mistake.  I respect all services, but I am not a Seaman, an Airman, nor a Soldier, I am a United States Marine Corps Infantryman.  Period.

even Jarhead

 Of course, of course.

Pad Dar and I both meant “arrested”.  

After looking at this more closely and reading Dave-USMC’s comment, it looks like that asshole in the White House is pinching pennies so he can keep AirForce 1 gassed up to go on another vacation at the expense of everyone serving that HE orders into a combat zone…….quibbling over a week here and a week there in combat pay is the biggest bunch of horseshit i’ve seen in years…….i can’t believe he’s getting away with this, but nothing surprises me coming from his sorry ass…….taking the Oath includes following orders from the CIC,no matter who it is,  but i’m damn glad i didn’t have to serve under this SOB’s leadership…….thank you for your service Brother and come back safe.

The Marine grunt writing that is wrong and of e ever paid attention he’d know it. DoD doesn’t py combat pay to every combat arms service member and just because he’s an infantryman he isn’t always in combat. His analogy of the mechanic is also incorrect since Leatherneck receives daily rocket attacks. Hostile areas are defined by the country we are engaged in, not specific to the theater of war. This move will stop servo e members in Kuwait, Qatar, Khazaskstan from receiving combat pay. It’s not going to stop for those in Afghanistan and a few other places. Furthermore, it’ll end the day you leave instead of going all the way trough te month as it does for some people

King Putt is just another unflushed turd in the toilet bowl of History.
…we’re gonna need one big-ass plunger, come November.

Whoever said leatherneck receives daily rocket attacks is a fool.

Who’s fuckin side are you on???

I have not uttered a curse word in nearly 60 years, and I have no intention to do so now, but the devil tempts me most everely through Obama and his insne pronouncements! I an personally convinced that Obama is demonically empower and is able to do so much damage by that demonic power!! May God grant that through the efforts of millions of citizen voters we will be able to dump him back to Chicago and eventually to Kenya!! 
I wonder how Michelle wdould like living under sharia law?? I don’t think she as the temperament for it!

In the spirit of balancing the budget, I propose we pro-rate King Putt’s pay for all the time he spends on vacation and the golf course.

So I suppose that next he’s going to pro-rate Flight pay for aviators based upon the number of sorties they fly, and Jump Pay based upon the number of jumps a paratrooper makes? Get outta here.

What a crock of sh1t. You want to save money? Start denying welfare benefits to all the illegals. Match government employee’s pay to that of the military. GS-1 equals E-1 pay, etc. Match Congressional pay & benefits to those of military officers.

This next election can’t come soon enough, but it is still going to take years to undo all the damage this moron and his enablers have done.

Well what are we going to do about this people? If you want it done peacefully, get to DC on April 15th for the protest. If you do not want it done peacefully, then organize, supply and arm, train and repeat!! Then activate when the riots, looting start. Kick the feds out of your towns and counties. Tell the Sheriff he better be on the side of the people or he is gone. Then make treaties and pacts with surrounding counties. Then you will have law and order again. All without the feds help. They are the ones who f’ed it up in the first place!!!

How do you think the people feel that served in 2 or 3 of the branches? I go by the last active service.

You listed atleast 1 combat area that won’t be receiving pay. WAKE UP.

On a seperate note, with this crazy administration keeping the borders open, suing states for trying to close them and sending guns in to Mexico[gunn runner---fast n furious], the whole FRIKKIN nation is on combat duty!

“Just another thang…..”             as opposed to me saying “it ain’t nothing”

More CHANGE than you eva HOPED for. You know what has to be done to fix this. So do it.

After reading  these posts the last few days it is clear to see what the objective is. The fodder coming out of dc has gop fighting tea party, catholics against charities, military against welfare and civilian taxpayers, justice department against freedom and justice, courts against the citizens and law and a just about every group that can be put against another oboma has them pissed off. I feel he is doing this division for a reason, just hav’nt figured out the master plan. Yet

So, Obama’s next step is to weaken the military by causing them to drop out when their time in service is over.  All promises to Marines, Soldiers, Sailors, and Airmen have been rescinded by this administration.  This President (well, that is what he calls himself) is working diligently to dismantle everything that makes this country a place that people want to live and work in and defend.  His blatant disregard (President OBAMA–in case you monitor it) for our service men and women who are in daily danger both domestic and abroad, can you say Major Hassan?  He is an embarrassment to the country, and created America:  the laughingstock of the world….

THIS is why the man gets no respect.  Does he deserve it?  Unlikely.

Yes God forbid we give our servicemembers a penny more than they have earned, that would be a travesty…ARE YOU KIDDING ME it is of my humble opinion that we do not pay them enough!  Are you noticing the FIRST place our executive branch has been looking to cut costs…the federal government was established for the sole purpose of defending this country and its citizens priority NUMBER ONE, how far we have wandered off the road and we will pay a dear price for it.   

Years ?  It may take several GENERATIONS to overcome the damage Obama and his  administation aka Crime Inc. have done to this nation. That is, if we have not already  passed the point of no return.
I expected a military coup before now.

I say PUT ALL of the Politicians on rated PAY and lets see how they like it, and there not even with there butts in danger…nor are they without there families every night and miss the HOLIDAY’S. The MEN and WOMEN that go to war for this COUNTRY and he sends MONEY TO AFRICA TO TEACH THEM HOW TO CLEAN THEIR PENIS’S….And yet takes away the pay of our MILITARY who put there lives on the line everyday so he can walk on this earth. I SAY LETS VOTE HIM OUT!  Love and Prayers ALWAYS to all the MILITARY MEN and WOMEN who give there lives so we can live in peace. Thanks again.

when you read something make sure you comprehend what you have read…

The way the ragheads travel arond the ocuntry dealing ut death and destructio, isn’t anywhere in that country a danger zone?

50% VA disable USMC vet 0331 Sorry to tell you guys but service members get treated better as veterans if your smart when your active duty time is up i would grab my dd214 and run as fast as you can.

 
this
needs to be shared. i guess going over seas for your country and
leaving your family to go to a war zone is not worth crap anymore. not
everyone who goes over there is going to be shot at, the men being shot
at need a SUPPORT GROUP or they wouldnt be able to do what they do. and
just because you are not being shot at does NOT mean you are not in
danger. you are in a COMBAT country you deserve COMBAT PAY this
president is the most filthy excuse for a leader he ought to be exiled
there where the REAL men are doing what they can to keep this country
safe, with no thanks from him!!! let the soldiers and marines get a
golfing trip every 5 minutes and let the president go over there and see
what its like, and then tell him your taking away his combat pay. i
think it would do the jerk some good.

 
this
needs to be shared. i guess going over seas for your country and
leaving your family to go to a war zone is not worth crap anymore. not
everyone who goes over there is going to be shot at, the men being shot
at need a SUPPORT GROUP or they wouldnt be able to do what they do. and
just because you are not being shot at does NOT mean you are not in
danger. you are in a COMBAT country you deserve COMBAT PAY this
president is the most filthy excuse for a leader he ought to be exiled
there where the REAL men are doing what they can to keep this country
safe, with no thanks from him!!! let the soldiers and marines get a
golfing trip every 5 minutes and let the president go over there and see
what its like, and then tell him your taking away his combat pay. i
think it would do the jerk some good.

Seems to me he is choking on a gnat to swallow a camel. If he’s concerned about the $$$, why doesn’t he go after something that will REALLY save money….like making English the official language and immediately stop the translation of official and legal documents into other languages. THAT would save MILLIONS. And how about stopping the practice of allowing illegal aliens to become citizens because they managed to crawl across the border just as their baby was about to be born because they knew if it was born here, they could reap all the benefits.

I think this action is stupid. I agree with Tim Kindred. For crying out loud, it’s not that much money! I hope the majority of people that live in this country still have their wits about them. They obviously didn’t during the last election….they had better wake up…….

Seems to me he is choking on a gnat to swallow a camel. If he’s concerned about the $$$, why doesn’t he go after something that will REALLY save money….like making English the official language and immediately stop the translation of official and legal documents into other languages. THAT would save MILLIONS. And how about stopping the practice of allowing illegal aliens to become citizens because they managed to crawl across the border just as their baby was about to be born because they knew if it was born here, they could reap all the benefits.

I think this action is stupid. I agree with Tim Kindred. For crying out loud, it’s not that much money! I hope the majority of people that live in this country still have their wits about them. They obviously didn’t during the last election….they had better wake up…….

Roger that !!!

Roger that !!!

 perhaps you missed the reference to Military.com…I’d say that is a respectable source.

Some argue that the pay is simply being prorated…but nobody has mentioned the fact that the variables are also being redefined.

I partially agree. When you’re in a so called “combat zone” but you can only carry your weapon without rounds actually being in it, then you’re not really in danger. So why should the Gov’t fork out the money to pay you for something you’re not really in? BUT BUT BUT, I will only fully agree to this if they stop paying the other branches “hazardous pay” for being with the USMC as in Air Force and Navy do. If you’re going to cut back unneeded pay, then make it fair for all. Plus it only applies to those areas deemed safe. So read the whole thing before making comments!!!
AND FOR GOD’S SAKE STOP CALLING MARINES, SOLDIERS!! 
Army = Soldiers
Navy = Sea Men
Air Force = Air Men
Marines = Marines
When speaking of them all it’s TROOPS!

Lost my vote for sure.

I’ve had a different experience with Hazard Pay.  I managed a federal contract that provided logistical support for our allied countries that purchased jets from the US Air Force.  Most of my team was retired military that came back as contractors.  One of the countries they regularly traveled to was Saudi Arabi.  They received Hazard Duty Pay even though the compound they worked in was considered a Green Zone.  If you think of the hundreds and thousands of people traveling to the Middle East enlisted, civilian or contractor getting paid Hazard Duty Pay when it is not appropriate that’s an exorbitant amount of money.  I witnessed huge amounts of HDP being distributed to my team when it was inappropriate because the guidelines were being stretched.  Truly it comes down to semantics on how the policies are applied. 
I support or Service Men and Women but I do think some of the policies have been to relax and all of us need to be fiscally responsible. 
I would be interested where this person was actually located.  And as with everything in the military there is an appeals process this person can go through if they were actually located in a Hazard Pay zone.

Romney & Gingrege & Santorum would do the same. Bring the troops home. 

stupid site, i dont recommend this, i went to click on it for face book and it says i recommend, I DON’T !!!!!!   These people FIGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY TO BE A FREE COUNTRY, NOT TO MENTION THAT ALL OF THE POLITICIANS INCLUDING THE PRESIDENTS ARE BENEFITING, ARE YOU FORGETTING ITS A FREE COUNTRY BECAUSE OF THEM NOT YOU, they are the ones GIVING THEIR LIVES, BUT YET YOU ARE FORGETTING THEY PROTECT YOU TOO, think about that, the next time something happens to our country, because we all know security is not what it should be.  OUR PEOPLE might think twice about protecting you, NEVER cut off your nose to spite your face, just saying.

WHAT AN ASSHOLE!!  THIS GUY HAS GOT TO GO…

Like i mentioned earlier, I serve on active duty. There was a rumor about this 7 months ago. I have heard nothing regarding taking away our combat pay. It is our turn to deploy soon, and nothing has been mentioned. This is a non story. Semper Fi to you and your husband! Oohrah! 1 MAR DIV!!

Thank You and Semper Fi

Tyranny…complete and total dictator…period

The rules for Hostile Fire and Imminent Danger Pay
have changed. Service members will now  receive imminent danger pay
only for days they actually spend in hazardous areas. This change went
in effect on February 1, 2012.
A member of a uniformed service may be entitled to Hostile Fire and Imminent Danger pay at the rate of $225 for any month in which he/she was entitled to basic pay and in which he/she was:
Subject to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines;
On duty in an area in which he was in imminent danger of being
exposed to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines and in which,
during the period he was on duty in that area, other members of the
uniformed services were subject to hostile fire or explosion of hostile
mines;
Killed, injured, or wounded by hostile fire, explosion of a hostile mine, or any other hostile action; or
On duty in a foreign area in which he was subject to the threat
of physical harm or imminent danger on the basis of civil insurrection,
civil war, terrorism, or wartime conditions.
Note: Reserve members are also eligible for Hostile Fire and Imminent Danger Pay.

how about the president or politicians dont get paid unless they are being shot at?!!!

It gets on my nerves, especially after 10 years of war.  A Marine is a Marine, is a Marine, and will be one for life. 

HOW CAN YOU TAKE THE PAY OF A SOLDIER???! HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IT IF WE TOOK YOUR PAY, YOUR LIMO, YOUR BODY GAURDS? OH THATS RIGHT YOU WOULDNT, WOULD YA??? YOU WILL PAY FOR AN ABORTION BUT YOU WONT PAY FOR A SOLDIER THAT FOUGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY TO SAVE YOUR LIFE.THATS KIND OF SAYING YOUR A MURDERER TO INNOCENTS. YOU ARE EVEN MURDERING OUR COUNTRY. YES WE DONT MIND HELPING SOME OTHER COUTRY’S BUT IF YOU WOULD STOP SENDING ALL OUR MONEY TO THE OTHER COUNTRIES, WE WOULD HAVE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It’s called an election, wanting it to end in a dictatorship.

I’m not 100% in agreement
with Obama. I can put myself in a troops and Obamas. I see all
sides to this, that’s what everyone should do. Take the troop aspect out of it would you
honestly pay someone doing refrigeration hazard pay for working what
would be any other day? But you would if he was, right? That’s
essentially what’s going on here and in that respect, I can agree with WHOMEVER made this decision. We still don’t have any concrete details on how this came to pass. Now. If I were a troop, I’d be EXTREMELY pissed, yes.
But I’d also remember that if a month went by without me in direct
combat or facing any kind of threat at all, I’d feel like I didn’t
deserve the pay just because I *might* have been shot at. But it would
be a completely different story if I was. In that case, yeah, I’m going to fight  tooth and nail for every dollar I’m earned for WHEN I put my life on the line. Not when I was just doing work around base. This whole ordeal is going to be a mess in the coming weeks and it’s sad when I read these comments.

I’m not 100% in agreement
with Obama. I can put myself in a troops and Obamas. I see all
sides to this, that’s what everyone should do. Take the troop aspect out of it would you
honestly pay someone doing refrigeration hazard pay for working what
would be any other day? But you would if he was, right? That’s
essentially what’s going on here and in that respect, I can agree with WHOMEVER made this decision. We still don’t have any concrete details on how this came to pass. Now. If I were a troop, I’d be EXTREMELY pissed, yes.
But I’d also remember that if a month went by without me in direct
combat or facing any kind of threat at all, I’d feel like I didn’t
deserve the pay just because I *might* have been shot at. But it would
be a completely different story if I was. In that case, yeah, I’m going to fight  tooth and nail for every dollar I’m earned for WHEN I put my life on the line. Not when I was just doing work around base. This whole ordeal is going to be a mess in the coming weeks and it’s sad when I read these comments.

I’m not 100% in agreement
with Obama. I can put myself in a troops and Obamas. I see all
sides to this, that’s what everyone should do. Take the troop aspect out of it would you
honestly pay someone doing refrigeration hazard pay for working what
would be any other day? But you would if he was, right? That’s
essentially what’s going on here and in that respect, I can agree with WHOMEVER made this decision. We still don’t have any concrete details on how this came to pass. Now. If I were a troop, I’d be EXTREMELY pissed, yes.
But I’d also remember that if a month went by without me in direct
combat or facing any kind of threat at all, I’d feel like I didn’t
deserve the pay just because I *might* have been shot at. But it would
be a completely different story if I was. In that case, yeah, I’m going to fight  tooth and nail for every dollar I’m earned for WHEN I put my life on the line. Not when I was just doing work around base. This whole ordeal is going to be a mess in the coming weeks and it’s sad when I read these comments.

That would be everywhere if the brass had anything to say about it. Anyone who is in country and doesn’t have a round in the chamber is an idiot for listening to the brass. They are always standing behind a couple of bullet catchers (enlisted). In Nam the only time a round wasn’t chambered was when the weqapon was being cleaned and a back up weapon was chambered.

i think that everyone is blowing this out of proportion, money is not being taken away from anyone… they are simply prorating the days that a Marine/Sailor/Solider/Airman spends in a combat zone for example, if a Marine spends 10 days in Afghanistan and leaves on the 11th day for whatever reason he’ll get paid $7.50 for the 10 days he was there instead of automatically paying him the $255 for a whole month that he did not spend there. God forbid someone actually gets shot at or blown up they will automatically rate $255…. the way i see it is, it makes sense because if you got LCpl Schmuckatelli who trys to kill himself the first they he gets there, guess what, before he’d automatically get the $255 for just stepping foot there and do you think thats fair? i dont think so. yeah the military doesnt get paid much but the military does have a lot of advantages that civilians dont have, at least we dont have to worry about health care or dental, get to shop at the commissaries and exchanges with no taxes, theres just so many things that are offered to military members and their families but people take it for granted.

also, here is my resource as far as the HFP/IDP goes http://www.dfas.mil/militarymembers/payentitlements/specialpay/hfp_idp.html

BOHICA
Yes there are lots of people overseas in secure areas. I don’t think any of the areas are in Afghanistan.
I would like a list of places where people are getting hazardous duty pay pre Feb 1 and where they will NOT be getting it Post Feb 1.
Korea, along the DMZ qualifies. Afghanistan, how about the Philippines? They have an Islamic insurgency running there but we don’t hear much. How about Ft Hood? Islamic terrorism killed quite a few there.
Do pilots only get it while actually over hostile areas? Who keeps the time slips?
I suppose if something is not done they might have to cut the disability payments to crack whores, pimps and various other people who are unable to work due to drug addiction. Cut benefits to illegal aliens etc.
Besides the Military is not likely to vote for him anyway.

finally! someone else who actually knows reason and does their research before jumping to conclusions!

The policy only changes one aspect of combat pay, that is….

If a service member arrives in a combat zone on the 25th of the month, he will get a prorated amount instead if the full monthly rate of $225 dollars. I am in no way pro Obama, but I think it is only fair to represent these changes honestly. In short, you don’t have to be taking or returning fire to be paid, you just physically have to be in the combat zone.

The policy only changes one aspect of combat pay, that is….

If a service member arrives in a combat zone on the 25th of the month, he will get a prorated amount instead if the full monthly rate of $225 dollars. I am in no way pro Obama, but I think it is only fair to represent these changes honestly. In short, you don’t have to be taking or returning fire to be paid, you just physically have to be in the combat zone.

I want to hug you. Thank you for having some SENSE. If anybody actually took the time to read the Act and UNDERSTAND what it means rather than just read a propagandist scuttlebutt article and jump to conclusions, they’d know that combat pay is not being CUT when troops are in hostile zones. My husband is an infantry soldier and has done 3 tours of duty (OEF, OIF, OND). He’s been saying all along that there’s no reason that the troops sitting comfortably on a FOB in a non-hazardous zone should be receiving the same pay that he receives while he’s out actually being shot at. 

Read the actual act. Yes there’s a reference to military.com but clearly those commenting and getting their panties in a bunch aren’t reading and understanding what’s ACTUALLY happening. It appears they’re ONLY reading the propagandist way that this article has been written. 

Perhaps this post would make more sense if the author did a little fact checking… The military is not paid through PayPal (really, you missed that one?!), and the pay is not only for active combat. It is for being deployed to a designated combat zone. Any of them, in any capacity, at any time. NOT just in active combat.
Additionally, this is not a pay cut. It is prorated pay. If a member spends a full month in zone, he/she gets the full month’s HFP/IDP. If he/she is in zone for a single day of the month, or 10 days, or 15…he/she gets paid for the time spent in zone and not the full month. This does not affect the pay for the time spent in zone – only the transition time coming in or going out.
The daily amount is based on a 30 day month…so if a member is in zone for a 28 day month he/she gets credit for a full month just like a member that is in zone for a 31 day month. That’s the point – paid for a month for being in zone a month (instead of paid for a month for being in zone for a day).

The reason Obama is stopping the flow of money to the troops…because he is trying to stop the flow of that money to Ron Paul …. Obama has plans to 
get back at the troops and start taking back more more money… because is is really angry that the troops are not supporting him … he is going to back stab his troops …. for not supporting his next election …. going to take that money and give it to the people who are supporting him … send a message to those that do not support him … bring it …. Ron Paul 2012 !!! 

I will tell why this is good. Befor this new change the only requirement was that you could enter a war zone on the last day of the month and get paid for that whole month for HFP. Does that make sense to you all. For example if you start a new job on the last day of the month should you get payed for that whole month? “The rules for Hostile Fire and Imminent Danger Pay have changed. Service members will now receive imminent danger pay only for days they actually spend in hazardous areas. This change went in effect on February 1, 2012.

Q-1: What geographic areas are considered combat zones?

A-1: Combat zones are designated by an Executive Order from the President as areas in which the U.S. Armed Forces are engaging or have engaged in combat.  There are currently three such combat zones (including the airspace above each):

Arabian Peninsula Areas, beginning Jan. 17, 1991 — the Persian Gulf, Red Sea, Gulf of Oman, the part of the Arabian Sea north of 10° North latitude and west of 68° East longitude, the Gulf of Aden, and the countries of Bahrain, Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.

Kosovo area, beginning Mar. 24, 1999 — Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro), Albania, the Adriatic Sea and the Ionian Sea north of the 39th Parallel.

Afghanistan, beginning Sept. 19, 2001.
Public Law 104-117 designates three parts of the former Yugoslavia as a Qualified Hazardous Duty Area, to be treated as if it were a combat zone, beginning Nov. 21, 1995 — Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, and Macedonia.

In addition, the Department of Defense has certified these locations for combat zone tax benefits due to their direct support of military operations, beginning on the listed dates:

     In support of Operation Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan combat zone):

Pakistan, Tajikistan and Jordan – Sept. 19, 2001
Incirlik Air Base, Turkey – Sept. 21, 2001 through Dec. 31, 2005
Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan – Oct. 1, 2001
Philippines (only troops with orders referencing Operation Enduring Freedom) – Jan. 9, 2002
Yemen – Apr. 10, 2002
Djibouti – July 1, 2002
Israel – Jan. 1 through July 31, 2003
Somalia – Jan. 1, 2004
     In support of Operation Iraqi Freedom (Arabian Peninsula Areas combat zone):

Turkey – Jan. 1, 2003 through Dec. 31, 2005
the Mediterranean Sea east of 30° East longitude – Mar. 19 through July 31, 2003
Jordan – Mar. 19, 2003
Egypt – Mar. 19 through Apr. 20, 2003

No place in that area is safe. Who r u kidding have you ever been in a combat zone. They will target the areas that are deemed safe because they think that will teach us a lesson.

you idiots voted for this NIGGER

you idiots voted for this NIGGER

you idiots voted for this NIGGER

should war, have ever evolved into a business ???

it appears, it is a rather crumby way to earn a living , or, to make a life

Without the Navy you wouldnt have the Air force, Without the Air force you wouldnt have the Marines, without the Marines you wouldnt have the Army..its the biggest unified gang in the country..and its also ran like any business with a chain of comand..each level has certain powers..certain duties to fulfill, if you take one piece out of that chain..chain breaks..everyones a soldier.  Between my husband (who was in the Army) and our familes we have family in every type of branch. 

 Starting this month, some troops will begin receiving less Imminent
Danger Pay when a new policy takes effect that will prorate the standard
$225 monthly IDP stipend.
Under the new policy, troops will be
paid only for the actual days they spend in the danger pay location,
defense officials said Thursday.
Under the previous policy, troops
who spent any portion of the month in a danger pay location received
danger pay for the entire month.
The proration amounts to $7.50
per day. So, for example, if a service member spends only 7 days of the
month in Afghanistan, he or she will have only $52.50 in Imminent Danger
Pay added to their paycheck.
Exceptions will be made for troops
who are “exposed to a hostile fire incident”, regardless of location.
They will receive the full monthly amount of $225.
The change was
mandated by Congress as a part of the 2012 budget, and the Pentagon
announced the implementation of the new rules on Thursday.

Responsible for our tax dollars? You’re giving credit for that when he’s wasted TRILLIONS on everything else across the country. Get real. How about we cut the illegals from welfare, that would be “Responsible for our tax dollars”.

As a Miltary spouse this is disgusting to me how dare they a combat zone is a combat zone,if you are over there toy are in danger look at how they over ran bagram perimeter a few year back, or how they fire drom a village knowung we will not attaxk a village…are you kidding me lets prorate politicians pay and put them on an enlisted membera salary and then put them in khandahar and tell them wait now since you are in a “safe area” we arent going to pay you thay measley. $225 a month extra and see gow qyickly that changes… cut the illegals outs of welfare along with the crackheads and o am sure if you mandate deug yesting for welfare you will have surplus od money to give to our troops…. dont forgwt while your comft cozy in ypur bed to chicken shit to serve toue nation my husband and his unit are clearing a stretch if road watching their buddies die. Get injured. Etc so you can now say that area is “safe” this election cannor come soon enough

You guys are fucking dumb. The only thing that has changed is if you land in country March 31st, you only get payed 7.50 that MONTH instead of the full $225 just for serving a single day there. You still get the full $225 for the other full months you’re there. It doesn’t matter if you’re being “shot at” as long as you’re in a location where imminent danger is a possibility. Who ever wrote this article needs a reading comprehension check before they should post any other crap.

What about working in an interment facility. You have the possibility of getting killed every day right?

I can’t even believe what I’m reading. They risk their lives and even die so all of us can live and Obama can sit in his cushy seat of power and he wants to take away the little bit of money they get for being in danger 24/7? Bullshit!!!! 

Okay whoever wrote this is retarded and needs to do fact checking. People STILL get IDP – they just get paid for the TIME they spend in a hostile area so if you are in Afghanistan for 11 months and 25 days, you won’t get the 225 for the 25 days, you get 7.50 a day. THAT is what it means. No one is taking combat pay from anyone – some servicemembers need to not be morons. (Yes I am currently serving. I read the message before I commented on it or arbitrarily posted it to FB). 

Okay whoever wrote this is retarded and needs to do fact checking. People STILL get IDP – they just get paid for the TIME they spend in a hostile area so if you are in Afghanistan for 11 months and 25 days, you won’t get the 225 for the 25 days, you get 7.50 a day. THAT is what it means. No one is taking combat pay from anyone – some servicemembers need to not be morons. (Yes I am currently serving. I read the message before I commented on it or arbitrarily posted it to FB). 

Okay whoever wrote this is retarded and needs to do fact checking. People STILL get IDP – they just get paid for the TIME they spend in a hostile area so if you are in Afghanistan for 11 months and 25 days, you won’t get the 225 for the 25 days, you get 7.50 a day. THAT is what it means. No one is taking combat pay from anyone – some servicemembers need to not be morons. (Yes I am currently serving. I read the message before I commented on it or arbitrarily posted it to FB). 

 People just get paid by the day, not an overall month payment! THat’s all that changed people!!!! See my post – if you’re deployed for say 20 days and you go home, should you really get paid for an entire month? Or if you’re deployed for say 10 days. They just get paid by the day that’s all. It’s not that hard to understand geez.

 He does not “hate” us. Read the memo. It’s not taking pay away. It’s just paying by the day and not the month. That’s all.

 1. Stop yelling. 2. No one is taking pay.

just because theres no bullets being shot at you doesnt mean your still not in danger…what about IEDs???? 

 AN…I would love to be able to quote a factual source for that rather than a statement by an individual.  Can you help all of us on that?

So…if you have to carry a weapon just to use the toilet…would that NOT be considered being in a combat zone? Really!!!! These jerks need to GO!

No one f**king reads the information do they, in the case in which a troop in a safe zone is hurt he or she is automatically given combat pay assholes. In other words the government wont pay you combat pay to sit around on your ass while those in real combat are getting the same pay its just not fair for those people who are actually in the combat zone dont you think? I dont completely agree with this but when looking at the scheme of things it kind of makes sense. Secondly I agree that they asshole that sit around on their ass making these decisions need to get a pay cut as well and im sure that will save us trillions in the budget!

This is now new to US soldiers.. During the hot zones in Bosnia and Hertz back in late 90s Clinton decided not to allow danger pay for some soldiers.. Even those who were at TF/camp Hawk. They were under fire and were subjected to heavy fire at any hour of the day. The soldiers there were NOT given a combat patch, because they were not considered ” in combat” …. HOWEVER.. a soldier who has been in Iraq for two months and left there due to getting pg or threatening to go shithouse crazy, getting a free ride back to the states and they are currently sporting those combat patches.. wow…. I’m old enough to know how it was and wise enough to know history ALWAYS repeats itself.

Ok….don’t attack me. Let me start by saying that I am NOT an Obama fan or supporter. However this article is extremely biased and written to get your attention. What ACTUALLY is happening is: When troops are deployed they receive hazard pay. It is not prorated. Which means…if they are in that country on the first day of the month then they receive hazard pay for that entire month. Now they are simply going to pro rate it. Meaning they will get hazard pay for the time they are in danger only. Not after they have left and are back home (which is how it was before). This person is playing on your emotions by using wording to shock you into getting angry. Don’t believe everything you read online.

oh word i say we just dont go over seas anymore an let the president fight for everyone some of us need that money to help family back home so great not only will i be away from family an friends to a place where i could possibly die but i wont even make the money for doing it unless im being attacked smh…how dumb does that sound??

oh word i say we just dont go over seas anymore an let the president fight for everyone some of us need that money to help family back home so great not only will i be away from family an friends to a place where i could possibly die but i wont even make the money for doing it unless im being attacked smh…how dumb does that sound??

Ok, then maybe he should go on the front lines and do what all of our husbands do.  Mine is in the Navy, and his ship was helping out the people in afghanistan.  So maybe he should think first.

Ok, then maybe he should go on the front lines and do what all of our husbands do.  Mine is in the Navy, and his ship was helping out the people in afghanistan.  So maybe he should think first.

Ok, then maybe he should go on the front lines and do what all of our husbands do.  Mine is in the Navy, and his ship was helping out the people in afghanistan.  So maybe he should think first.

I have seen from first hand experience that the “combat pay” system can and has been abused. Having flown
ranking officers into and out of nam for a one day stay for the purpose of qualifying for such pay, was a common occurance.
The clark field saigon shuttle was well known for this.

All but 3 Republican Senators voted for this act.   Let’s blame who is really responsible for this.

or mortars! this is sick..

or mortars! this is sick..

ummm you get deployed for months not days…

ummm you get deployed for months not days…

http://www.militarysos.com/forum/military-benefits/502934-change-hostile-fire-pay-imminent-danger-pay.html  There’s a discussion here that shows this is talking about prorating by day.  If you are in Iraq one month, you get $225.  If you’re in Iraq on the 1st and come home the next day, you get $7.50 instead of the full $225.  Sure, they’d rather have the money, but this is hardly an unfair change.

http://www.militarysos.com/forum/military-benefits/502934-change-hostile-fire-pay-imminent-danger-pay.html  There’s a discussion here that shows this is talking about prorating by day.  If you are in Iraq one month, you get $225.  If you’re in Iraq on the 1st and come home the next day, you get $7.50 instead of the full $225.  Sure, they’d rather have the money, but this is hardly an unfair change.

Combat pay is rated because of the danger involved in our duties,   WTF deems a hazardous area?   If I’m on a Base in Afghanistan, so what if the base is far away from the combat operations area, At any point in time that base is in danger of taking Indirect fire (IDF’S),  this article is unclear of what stipulates a hazardous area to me.  The base I was stationed at was safe by technicality but we took 1-2 IDF’s a month (yeah I know a few ground saying, “That’s it?”)  Does that mean we rate hazard pay?  What about crew chief / pilots / Air observers / Troops  does flying over a hazardous area that you DIDN’T take fire in rate combat pay for all?   …horrible idea and honestly I don’t care about the stipulations, if your not on US soil, and in a hostile foreign country, you rate the extra pay.  considering the pay already sucks and the only good thing is the job security throwing in a little bonus like combat pay makes the situation a little more bearable.  
  (For those of you who say, Pay doesn’t matter, only duty and honor.  If duty and honor could pay my bills, I’d do it for free…)

Combat pay is rated because of the danger involved in our duties,   WTF deems a hazardous area?   If I’m on a Base in Afghanistan, so what if the base is far away from the combat operations area, At any point in time that base is in danger of taking Indirect fire (IDF’S),  this article is unclear of what stipulates a hazardous area to me.  The base I was stationed at was safe by technicality but we took 1-2 IDF’s a month (yeah I know a few ground saying, “That’s it?”)  Does that mean we rate hazard pay?  What about crew chief / pilots / Air observers / Troops  does flying over a hazardous area that you DIDN’T take fire in rate combat pay for all?   …horrible idea and honestly I don’t care about the stipulations, if your not on US soil, and in a hostile foreign country, you rate the extra pay.  considering the pay already sucks and the only good thing is the job security throwing in a little bonus like combat pay makes the situation a little more bearable.  
  (For those of you who say, Pay doesn’t matter, only duty and honor.  If duty and honor could pay my bills, I’d do it for free…)

sitting on their ass? WOW! Have you been deployed? 

sitting on their ass? WOW! Have you been deployed? 

ok if you think military get advantages that civilians dont… go through basic traning,,ait, and being deployed etc..then tell me why they get the LITTLE they do! and when you are deployed you are ALWAYS in a danger zone….and you aren’t their for days…its months….and talking about people killing themselves…if you knew why military do that maybe youd like to go live in iraq or afghan for a year?!

ok if you think military get advantages that civilians dont… go through basic traning,,ait, and being deployed etc..then tell me why they get the LITTLE they do! and when you are deployed you are ALWAYS in a danger zone….and you aren’t their for days…its months….and talking about people killing themselves…if you knew why military do that maybe youd like to go live in iraq or afghan for a year?!

ok if you think military get advantages that civilians dont… go through basic traning,,ait, and being deployed etc..then tell me why they get the LITTLE they do! and when you are deployed you are ALWAYS in a danger zone….and you aren’t their for days…its months….and talking about people killing themselves…if you knew why military do that maybe youd like to go live in iraq or afghan for a year?!

Let’s keep the combat pay and take away the OBAMA FAMIY vacation pay!!!!

Let’s keep the combat pay and take away the OBAMA FAMIY vacation pay!!!!

 Not only do we have to deal with the dangers of people wanting to kill us on a daily basis, we have other dangers. Ever live in Afghanistan? They burn their trash, we burn our trash, living on a FOB or COP is a danger in itself even if you take hostile enemies out of it. We may have signed up from our own free will, but do you believe we don’t deserve compensation for being away from our families? From being stuck in a third world country with open sewers and carcinogenic hazards?

Our President ( or your president ) is  STUPID

Have you been deployed? If not shut up I’m pretty sure you have no idea what they go threw each and every single day.

Have you been deployed? If not shut up I’m pretty sure you have no idea what they go threw each and every single day.

Have you been deployed? If not shut up I’m pretty sure you have no idea what they go threw each and every single day.

Have you been deployed? If not shut up I’m pretty sure you have no idea what they go threw each and every single day.

Have you been deployed? If not shut up I’m pretty sure you have no idea what they go threw each and every single day.

Have you been deployed? If not shut up I’m pretty sure you have no idea what they go threw each and every single day.

Have you been deployed? If not shut up I’m pretty sure you have no idea what they go threw each and every single day.

Ron Paul 

Ron Paul 

Ron Paul 

Ron Paul 

Ron Paul 

Ron Paul 

Ron Paul 

Ron Paul 

always and those in washington better wake up before all soldiers go to washington to put them all inmilitary prison top down.

always and those in washington better wake up before all soldiers go to washington to put them all inmilitary prison top down.

Wow…. you are so ignorant 

Yes but its not exactly 7 months. Its goingto b 7 months and like 10 days. I’ve never heard of exactly 7 months.

Please do give out names so that this article can in some way be verified.  One can say anything; that does not make it true.

then they the ones in America should all get hazard, the U.S. is getting to be one of the most dangerous countries in the world….

then they the ones in America should all get hazard, the U.S. is getting to be one of the most dangerous countries in the world….

And they will continue to cover for him,editing anything that makes him look bad-fabricating anything to make him look good- and the uniformed masses will vote him back in..The repubs are to blame too,thier candidates SUCK,and Ron Paul is a nutcase…oh lord are we in for a world of shit when the usurper rides again come November..Wish I cuold believe there will be a coup of some sort,but they are all in it for themselves,regardless of party..Nothing will ever change untill there are TERM LIMITS,and does anyone really think the bastards will ever vote THAT in? Scheeesch!

And they will continue to cover for him,editing anything that makes him look bad-fabricating anything to make him look good- and the uniformed masses will vote him back in..The repubs are to blame too,thier candidates SUCK,and Ron Paul is a nutcase…oh lord are we in for a world of shit when the usurper rides again come November..Wish I cuold believe there will be a coup of some sort,but they are all in it for themselves,regardless of party..Nothing will ever change untill there are TERM LIMITS,and does anyone really think the bastards will ever vote THAT in? Scheeesch!

Completely agree…  and Ive spent the last 4 years as a USAF Combat Controller. For example, I dont think Doctors or Chaplins should get combat pay even though they are in REAL combat zones. They arent in combat, they are around it… not like they are gonna hump ammo or pick up a gun and shoot back. Once they do… by all means give em that pay. Even the people in REAL combat, theres always the one fuck who is lazy and dont to shit… yea their IN combat but they arent contributing. Yall knew as well as I did when we enlisted that we could and would get fucked over as grunts, but yall still enlisted. Plus its not like anyone else BUT US deem an area safe, so if you wanna get payed for combat in a place you think is a REAL combat zone deem it so, use the chain of command to do so… thats what its there for. You dont see me bitching bout this shit… If your that upset about it, mutiny then… dont get on the internet and talk shit.

Completely agree…  and Ive spent the last 4 years as a USAF Combat Controller. For example, I dont think Doctors or Chaplins should get combat pay even though they are in REAL combat zones. They arent in combat, they are around it… not like they are gonna hump ammo or pick up a gun and shoot back. Once they do… by all means give em that pay. Even the people in REAL combat, theres always the one fuck who is lazy and dont to shit… yea their IN combat but they arent contributing. Yall knew as well as I did when we enlisted that we could and would get fucked over as grunts, but yall still enlisted. Plus its not like anyone else BUT US deem an area safe, so if you wanna get payed for combat in a place you think is a REAL combat zone deem it so, use the chain of command to do so… thats what its there for. You dont see me bitching bout this shit… If your that upset about it, mutiny then… dont get on the internet and talk shit.

I think Obama needs to be put in line of fire and in imminent danger. See how long his ass would last.

I think Obama needs to be put in line of fire and in imminent danger. See how long his ass would last.

Alright dude, the regulation straight off DFAS says:

“Prior to Dec. 31, 2011, members eligible for IDP were paid the full monthly rate of $225 for any complete or partial month they served in a qualifying area. The 2012 National Defense Authorization Act modified IDP payments, limiting eligibility to only the actual days served in a qualifying area. Now service members will receive $7.50 for each day they are on official duty in an IDP area up to the maximum monthly rate of $225. The monthly rate is paid to members who serve an entire calendar month in an IDP area regardless of the number of individual days in that month. Members who are exposed to a hostile fire or hostile mine explosion event are eligible to receive non-prorated Hostile Fire Pay (HFP) in the full monthly amount of $225. Members cannot receive both IDP and HFP in the same month. The law required proration to begin on Dec. 31, 2011; however, implementing guidance and military pay processes were not in place to begin prorating the pay on that date. DoD began paying the prorated payments Feb. 1, 2012. Some members may have been overpaid between the date the NDAA was signed on Dec. 31, 2011, and Feb. 1, 2012, when the pay systems began proration. The military services are working to waive or remit debts for members who may have been overpaid during this period. The intent is that you will not be liable for any overpayment during this period.”

This means you’re not going to get $225 the first and last month you are in country unless you spend 30 days there.  No one is keeping a clock for each individual Time in Contact (TIC) and paying you for that day, if it’s an IDP zone you are getting IDP for every day you are there.  Afghanistan is an IDP zone.  So is Iraq.  To everyone who is not savy on military things, we used to get all “combat” related pay and incentives in full for the month even if you arrived on the 30th or 31st of that month.  The same if you left theater on the 1st, you would recieve all extra pay for that month. 

Don’t be a rabble-rouser, do a little research before you make social media posts.   

I am sorry but since when has any one in the Chair Force been a grunt?!? When I enlisted I expected to make sacrifices for my country but I expected my family to get compensated for the 18 months at a time I spent away from them and in a combat zone.

I am sorry but since when has any one in the Chair Force been a grunt?!? When I enlisted I expected to make sacrifices for my country but I expected my family to get compensated for the 18 months at a time I spent away from them and in a combat zone.

You voted this monkey into office…enjoy him.

How could you possibly say you would “feel like you didn’t deserve” your pay just because you might have been shot at? If you have never been in that situation you can’t say what you would feel. The troops down range earn every penny they are paid every day, not just the days they are getting shot at!

I do not remember enlisting in the Navy in 73. the Marines are technically not part of the Navy. In 1948 the Defense Act created the Marines as a separate force.  Because of the long tradition of being a Naval force it was attached to the Navy department in the Department of Defense. The Coast Guard, NOAA, and Public Health service are also Naval Services.  under the old rules prior to 1948 if the Marine Corps served on land they were part of the Army. That is why Robert E Lee commanded Marines at Harpers Ferry capturing the arch traitor John Brown. Thus ends the lesson.

Now to cut back all the BS, If tehre is anyone who thinks there is such a thing as a SAFE zone in Afganistan, Iraq, or the Persian gulf or the air surrounding these thing I have a bit of bottom land to sell in Louisiana.

It used to be that if a service member spent one day in a hostile area he qualigfied for the whole month, Does this mean that person is only due pay for the days he spent in a hostile area? 

Of cours he could really cut back and not allow his wife to spend 40,000 on little pretties at victoria secret. You can dress it up but it is  like camoflaging a camel’s humps.

Of cours he could really cut back and not allow his wife to spend 40,000 on little pretties at victoria secret. You can dress it up but it is  like camoflaging a camel’s humps.

As I have just understood, a person in combat zone just lost his hazard pay. That is not right. I think that the people that should take pay cuts are our politicians who are sitting on their butts and making these laws.

Now US troops only make $7.50 extra each time outside the wire…. Thats less than what they took out of his/her check for the MRE he/she put in his/her pack to take out on that mission.

Now US troops only make $7.50 extra each time outside the wire…. Thats less than what they took out of his/her check for the MRE he/she put in his/her pack to take out on that mission.

Fuck you, go put on 60lbs of body armor in 125F… 140 inside your vic… and you just ran out of water.

yes they cut the pay of the men and women who risk their lives everyday and not think twice. It makes it even worse because our military is risking their lives for our freedom and alot of that is being taken from us too.

When a Commander-In-Chief appears to violate the Constitution, sides with marxists ideas, perpetually practices anti-American values, is there a moment where any of the services is called upon to activate the oath to defend and protect the Constitution of The United States and create a military tribunal legal team and go to congress to discuss the gap and conflict between the core nature of the armed forces versus a leader that appears to counter this? It just seems that Obama is practically taking over and now they are even forcing chaplains to not practice their religion as they should based on the Obamacare regulations. At what point is enough “enough”.
Just wondering if anyone has any insight on this or that this is just the way that it will turn out: America’s Armed Forces under the leadership of a communist regime. That sounds odd but it’s slowly structuring that way. This guys is just a disaster and yet, he just keeps punching away unabated. Our founding fathers would have done something about this by now.

The military does not use “PayPal”. And…”Marine Corps Soldier”?? Who the heck is writing this shit? Also, nowhere does the order say you HAVE to be shot at to rate the extra pay. It explains multiple criteria you have to meet in order to rate combat pay…this includes just being in a combat zone where you are in danger of being exposed to hostile fire. This entire post is not only chock full of grammatical and spelling errors, it’s full of factual errors. 

I have a son in Afghanistan…Let me tell you…everyone,and I mean every soldier on his base…not matter what “job” they have, is in danger DAILY of attack (not to mention IED’s while traveling).  If a cop goes out on duty and “doesn’t” get shot at, should we cut his pay because he wasn’t in “imminent” danger?  The police that work desk jobs to solve crimes…they should be paid less…please give me a break…you show your ignorance by this comment!

I have a son in Afghanistan…Let me tell you…everyone,and I mean every soldier on his base…not matter what “job” they have, is in danger DAILY of attack (not to mention IED’s while traveling).  If a cop goes out on duty and “doesn’t” get shot at, should we cut his pay because he wasn’t in “imminent” danger?  The police that work desk jobs to solve crimes…they should be paid less…please give me a break…you show your ignorance by this comment!

This is hularious to me! Seems like everytime I watch the news, Obama and his family are on vaccation at “Martha’s Vinyard” or somewhere else. Must be nice!!!!  No wonder he hasn’t got anything done during his time in office. He’s always vaccationing {from all the “HARDWORK” he’s done so far. Lol!!! Poor, Poor man!!!!  Guess when we’ve ever had a vaccation? How about not one in 35 years!!!! We’re farmers!!! Dairy farmers!!! We work hard for a living!!!!! I bet the President pays his Secret Service Men and Military men who follow him around from vaccation to vaccation, to protect him, get paid boocoo’s. Feel sorry for our Military guys!!! Thankyou for all you do for us, and my God bless all of you for providing us our freedoms!!!!

This is hularious to me! Seems like everytime I watch the news, Obama and his family are on vaccation at “Martha’s Vinyard” or somewhere else. Must be nice!!!!  No wonder he hasn’t got anything done during his time in office. He’s always vaccationing {from all the “HARDWORK” he’s done so far. Lol!!! Poor, Poor man!!!!  Guess when we’ve ever had a vaccation? How about not one in 35 years!!!! We’re farmers!!! Dairy farmers!!! We work hard for a living!!!!! I bet the President pays his Secret Service Men and Military men who follow him around from vaccation to vaccation, to protect him, get paid boocoo’s. Feel sorry for our Military guys!!! Thankyou for all you do for us, and my God bless all of you for providing us our freedoms!!!!

This is hularious to me! Seems like everytime I watch the news, Obama and his family are on vaccation at “Martha’s Vinyard” or somewhere else. Must be nice!!!!  No wonder he hasn’t got anything done during his time in office. He’s always vaccationing {from all the “HARDWORK” he’s done so far. Lol!!! Poor, Poor man!!!!  Guess when we’ve ever had a vaccation? How about not one in 35 years!!!! We’re farmers!!! Dairy farmers!!! We work hard for a living!!!!! I bet the President pays his Secret Service Men and Military men who follow him around from vaccation to vaccation, to protect him, get paid boocoo’s. Feel sorry for our Military guys!!! Thankyou for all you do for us, and my God bless all of you for providing us our freedoms!!!!

A measly extra $220 a month for putting yourself in harms way in the service of your country is insulting enough. To have it taken away my some stuffed shirt sitting at a desk in a cozy office in Washington, half way around the world is unconscionable. God Bless all who serve. Keep the faith, the rest of us all support you, even if the stuffed shirts do not.

The troops are NOT paid enough anyway, they should make MORE than congress and congress should get paid less. These guys are fighting and dying for our honor, and the rate they are paid and the way they are treated is a complete and utter fucking disgrace!!!!

The troops are NOT paid enough anyway, they should make MORE than congress and congress should get paid less. These guys are fighting and dying for our honor, and the rate they are paid and the way they are treated is a complete and utter fucking disgrace!!!!

I thought the purpose of Hazard Duty Pay was to be given to service members serving in an area of increased chances of being shot/blown up.  I am serving in South Korea right now and I live off post, go to work, come home, watch TV, etc… but I am also at an increased risk of North Korea going nuts one day and shooting at me sitting at my computer than I was while going to and from work back in the states.  It was my understanding that the extra pay was the government’s way of saying ‘good job volunteering to do a job that millions of other people can’t/won’t do’.

http://marines.dodlive.mil/2012/02/03/imminent-danger-pay-what-you-need-to-know/

Imminent Danger pay is just being prorated not taken away for certain service members. Not that that’s ok by any means…$7.50 a DAY is an insult to our servicemen and women. 

http://marines.dodlive.mil/2012/02/03/imminent-danger-pay-what-you-need-to-know/

Imminent Danger pay is just being prorated not taken away for certain service members. Not that that’s ok by any means…$7.50 a DAY is an insult to our servicemen and women. 

http://marines.dodlive.mil/2012/02/03/imminent-danger-pay-what-you-need-to-know/

Imminent Danger pay is just being prorated not taken away for certain service members. Not that that’s ok by any means…$7.50 a DAY is an insult to our servicemen and women. 

http://marines.dodlive.mil/2012/02/03/imminent-danger-pay-what-you-need-to-know/

Imminent Danger pay is just being prorated not taken away for certain service members. Not that that’s ok by any means…$7.50 a DAY is an insult to our servicemen and women. 

What a P.O.S!

What a P.O.S!

What a P.O.S!

What a P.O.S!

The author and the kid making the comment are both idiots.

http://marines.dodlive.mil/2012/02/03/imminent-danger-pay-what-you-need-to-know/

They’re making it a per diem. They’re not taking it away because someone isn’t outside of the wire. They’re taking it away because someone isn’t IN COUNTRY. It’s no longer the full 250 just for being in country for one day.

What happened to actually knowing wtf one was talking about before speaking on it?

Well said!  My sentiments exactly!

Dude, read the link…that’s not what is happening. POGs still get combat pay. 

http://marines.dodlive.mil/2012/02/03/imminent-danger-pay-what-you-need-to-know/

This article is bs! There is no sucks thing as a  ”Marine Corp Soldier” who comes up with this crap?!

*such thing* my bad…and there are many other errors with this article as well. It should be removed.

*such thing* my bad…and there are many other errors with this article as well. It should be removed.

I don’t understand. This almost sounds like a good thing IF they get it every time they are exposed to hostile acts of aggression WHILE IN COUNTRY! I know that it’s a needed bit of money but come on people if you are laying on the beach in the US or fishing in the US or having a nice enjoyable horizontal bebop with the wife or GF in the US then whats the problem? You know we’re having a little problem with money due to some idiot spending trillions on something called stimulus and bailouts not to mention really nice vacations for each member for the family while most of us get a few days at best or none and he spent more time on golf courses than behind a desk working!

Now IF you were in country and received incoming fire then you got the hazardous duty pay correct? Or are they saying that you MUST receive a full months (28-31 days worth) of fire then some moron again has overstepped his lawyer arse!

Easy fix! Shoot at the nearest Raghead you see or the known concordances of their position and receive incoming fire and put a check mark on the day! Hey guys and gals ya gotta work the system at times! Heck, grab a passerby and offer a few bucks, a case of beer and don’t say they won’t take it or a case of TP to get them to throw an additional RPG or mortar your way every day!

It’s NEVER hard to get Uncle Sam to come off funds when needed! Remember for those $100 toilet seats or hammers! Sometimes you gotta scratch (HINT) the arse to get something to happen! A little blood sweat and tears never hurt!

 Sorry troop but you are not due anything but your pay check until Little Fatboy up north decides to go ape crazy THEN you get the hazard pay! There ARE limits to what can be paid right now. Things are a tad bit tight as I’m sure letters from home are telling you. Believe it or not if you are over E-2 with 1 year you make more than most who served in Nam and are now getting that pathetic SS Payment. Be happy you get a pay check and got to volunteer and not drafted. But as soon as things get fun you’ll get that added pay. Maybe if this POTUS doesn’t overstep his idea of what he can actually do!

Agreed- from another Army Wife. People think soldiers get paid well, when really, they are just living paycheck to paycheck trying to provide for their families. They need food stamps and aid just like everyone else. It’s not a high paying job in the first place, and unless you are of high rank you are trying to stretch every dollar earned so you can get by. My husband is also in Afghanistan at the moment, and there are threats everywhere. I have heard of “safezones” but that’s what they are called because they have a wall made of mud around them. It’s a place to stop on your way out to the mission or COP/FOB. I agree, that there are some “fobbits” that do nothing but sit around and work in the TOC’s and stuff, but even though I have experienced nothing but my husband being on the “front lines” so to speak, I still feel as though those who sit behind that desk in a plywood or mud building are still in potential danger. We’ve lost too many at places that were “safe.”    

now.. I know that this is meant to be you get the pay when you’re IN country, and only get paid for the number of days you were in country if you left before a whole month went by, and that makes sense… but the above needed to be said for those who thought otherwise.

I’m not an American, I’m an Aussie, but a family member is Married to a Marine and this is a f***ing disgrace $ 225 per month  if your shot at, have they forgotten what the term WARZONE actually means over there. yeh $7.50 per day on top of your wage is hardly compensation for being shot at,risk being hit by artillery or copping an IED. Most guys and girls on wall street would spend more than this on an a friggin latte or espresso coffee each day. The U.S government need to wake up and pay these people what they are worth, Maybe if they found the missing billions of dollars out of the military budget Rumsfeld reported to the press on september 10th 2001 they might be able to afford to pay these people what they are worth or they could stop wasting millions of dollars on political slur campaigns? Good luck to you all , I say bring them home and let the drones do the work.  

http://www.military.com/benefits/content/military-pay/special-pay/hostile-fire-and-imminent-danger-pay.html if you actually read the article that you linked to you will see that it means that they only get paid on the days they are IN THE HAZARDOUS zone, not when they get shot at and that would mean they aren’t going to pay them that rate for a whole month if they only spend one day of the month in the zone.

http://www.military.com/benefits/content/military-pay/special-pay/hostile-fire-and-imminent-danger-pay.html if you actually read the article that you linked to you will see that it means that they only get paid on the days they are IN THE HAZARDOUS zone, not when they get shot at and that would mean they aren’t going to pay them that rate for a whole month if they only spend one day of the month in the zone.

I’m just a plain old civilian and think this is a slap in the face to all those who are serving away from the safety of the USA. Let these politicians get paid for one month a soldiers pay and give up their surplus pay and see how quick they bring back their pay. Throw them out of a plane in a country that hate us and see if they don’t feel imminent danger! Thank you and God bless all the troops who are out there fighting for our freedom.

I’m just a plain old civilian and think this is a slap in the face to all those who are serving away from the safety of the USA. Let these politicians get paid for one month a soldiers pay and give up their surplus pay and see how quick they bring back their pay. Throw them out of a plane in a country that hate us and see if they don’t feel imminent danger! Thank you and God bless all the troops who are out there fighting for our freedom.

All I can say is this… you don’t send in troops to give out kittens and puppies.. nor do the troops have the luxury to pick and choose where the action is at… many times it just happens.. to assume that is just dumb… so if I get shot at and my buddy takes a round we get the money then… but not the medivac pilot flying in to save his life. I am a soldier.. I fight where I am told and I win where I fight… my vote will go elsewhere .. that’s for site

All I can say is this… you don’t send in troops to give out kittens and puppies.. nor do the troops have the luxury to pick and choose where the action is at… many times it just happens.. to assume that is just dumb… so if I get shot at and my buddy takes a round we get the money then… but not the medivac pilot flying in to save his life. I am a soldier.. I fight where I am told and I win where I fight… my vote will go elsewhere .. that’s for site

exactly what is the factual support for this?  did you do any actual research before posting this garbage?  pathetic.

and the pack and the helmet i think they need to make him carry everything and see how easy it is wont be a vacation i can tell you that much i have been through boot camp mct all that stuff and only got 1% of what they carry over seas

 SIR…you are an IDIOT!!!

i think its total bullshit that all these goddamn congressmen/senators can serve only ONE term and get FULL retirement with benefits but they are going to cut my pay back because i dont get shot at everyday over here fighting for my country! its bad enough i’m away from my wife and children and now you’re going to pay me less to! FUCK THIS!

Are you freaking kidding me? My son is over there right now and he is the one that is keeping all the lines of communication together so that our men and women don’t get killed.  But because he isn’t being shot at he should not get combat pay? I’ve got something to tell this president, you’re an idiot!

God this is the stupidest shit ever so this mother-fucker thinks that because our soldiers are not getting shot at everyday they dont deserve the pay?  wtf is that?  even if they are not in a red zone that dont mean shit there fob or camp still can get mordered or rocketed or sumthing of that sort… this is stupid n we need a new president ASAP

Ya great job obama, your doing a GREAT job ensuring that we don’t make the same mistake and reelect you!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok. If the tables were turned and our soldiers were brought home and Obama and Co. were out there getting their ass shot off. I feel it only appropriate that  their pay get docked and stipends put on their paycheck. Will that make them change their tune?

somebody needs to put a bullet in his brain housing group……………….

somebody needs to put a bullet in his brain housing group……………….

somebody needs to put a bullet in his brain housing group……………….

somebody needs to put a bullet in his brain housing group……………….

somebody needs to put a bullet in his brain housing group……………….

This is completely ridiculous. I wonder how hw would like it if his pay was calculated toa daily pay and each day he does not perform his duties as a president based by the constitution. Toserve the people he won’t get paid. I thought we were a REPUBLIC. As a republic the primary function of the government is to protect us the citizens of this Republic of the United States of America.

read it before you make stupid comments, or is your comprehension off!

read it before you make stupid comments, or is your comprehension off!

read it before you make stupid comments, or is your comprehension off!

read it before you make stupid comments, or is your comprehension off!

This is some bullshit.I have been in for ten years as of this month and have been deployed 6 times a total of 57 months. No not by choice. It’s already a fucking slap in the face with the little money that they give us for fight for our country so that they can walk around and do what the he’ll they want. You pay some one millions to sit on a bench.
The service has been good to me for the most part, but it time for me to hang up my boots and get out.

This is some bullshit.I have been in for ten years as of this month and have been deployed 6 times a total of 57 months. No not by choice. It’s already a fucking slap in the face with the little money that they give us for fight for our country so that they can walk around and do what the he’ll they want. You pay some one millions to sit on a bench.
The service has been good to me for the most part, but it time for me to hang up my boots and get out.

This is some bullshit.I have been in for ten years as of this month and have been deployed 6 times a total of 57 months. No not by choice. It’s already a fucking slap in the face with the little money that they give us for fight for our country so that they can walk around and do what the he’ll they want. You pay some one millions to sit on a bench.
The service has been good to me for the most part, but it time for me to hang up my boots and get out.

Keep in mind the government tax the fuck out of us already also.

Keep in mind the government tax the fuck out of us already also.

Keep in mind the government tax the fuck out of us already also.

Keep in mind the government tax the fuck out of us already also.

Keep in mind the government tax the fuck out of us already also.

    “On duty in a foreign area in which he was subject to the threat of physical harm or imminent danger on the basis of civil insurrection, civil war, terrorism, or wartime conditions.” I would say just being in Afghanistan should qualify all personnel that are there, shouldn’t it? Your troops are deployed there and the definition of deployed, {” To position (troops) in readiness for combat, as along a front or line. b. To bring (forces or material) into action”} so to be deployed you must be in a hostile area, Politicians are proffesional ‘spin doctors’ aren’t they  ‘meant’ to represent the people, not they’re pockets? ,good luck and best wishes to you all and your’e families waiting patiently at home.

Don’t cut our money asshole. Send them contractors that make 100,000.00 a year tax free that ain’t doing nothing back home. And let us do our jobs.

I am too pissed off to write anything without being very explicit in my wording so I will do this briefly right now. Impeach him and Reduce the pay of all of the Presidents cabinet and The House of Reps. And The United States Senate by 40%. Put them on the same tricare program that the military men and woman have. These bumbling idiots who are currently leading this country need to get over themselves and lead this country properly or there will be trouble in this nation soon. I will not vote for any incumbents or anyone who will keep the Status Que. It is time for a drastic house cleaning of our Government, leaders and Policies. And if something isn’t done about this and 
Ruth Joan Bader Ginsburg for her treasonous words in Egypt.  I will be writing more about this and forwarding it to my Senators and Congressmen as soon as I calm down. A pissed off Retired navy man who currently have children serving our nation now.

If the dumb ass president want to save money I can show him how to do it starting in Washington DC.  There are billions to save.  The military should not be pusihed for his stupidity and bad leadership.  I was in Viet Nam for 15 months and there were places that he would have considered a safe zone I’m sure.  But every day I was alive I felt fortunate.  You just never knew when some suecide nut was going to take you out.  He needs to go back to his hood friends in Chicago and stop trying to socialize America.  He’s an idiot.

If the dumb ass president want to save money I can show him how to do it starting in Washington DC.  There are billions to save.  The military should not be pusihed for his stupidity and bad leadership.  I was in Viet Nam for 15 months and there were places that he would have considered a safe zone I’m sure.  But every day I was alive I felt fortunate.  You just never knew when some suecide nut was going to take you out.  He needs to go back to his hood friends in Chicago and stop trying to socialize America.  He’s an idiot.

If the dumb ass president want to save money I can show him how to do it starting in Washington DC.  There are billions to save.  The military should not be pusihed for his stupidity and bad leadership.  I was in Viet Nam for 15 months and there were places that he would have considered a safe zone I’m sure.  But every day I was alive I felt fortunate.  You just never knew when some suecide nut was going to take you out.  He needs to go back to his hood friends in Chicago and stop trying to socialize America.  He’s an idiot.

In all honesty, as a soldier myself, I don’t mind this rule.  It’s stupid that I went out basically every day looking for IEDs while some tards on an airforce base well out of harm’s way are getting the same pay as I am just because they take one mortar in a 5 mile radius once every three months.

Combat pay will not be cut if you are really in combat, so what the Hell are you talking about ? This is  just another Right Wing Spin like usual!

The
bill is that you will get paid a rate of 7.50 a day or $225 a month r
being in a combat area. It is to prevent people who show up in
Afghanistan for 3 day in a month say they get there late January from
getting combat pay amount for an entire
month, but for just the days they were there. It isn’t only if being
shot at it is just to limit paying people who come out for a week at the
end of the month say late jan-early Feb from getting the full amount
for both months if they were only there a few days.

I’m no fan of our government right now but fact—before you would recieve the full 225 HDP even if you served just one day in a combat zone.  Under the new regs you receive only for the day or 7.50 a day.  No combat entitlements are being taken.

 I love how YOU call someone a “dum ass” when you can’t even spell it. Fucking hell, you people make me sick.

 I love how YOU call someone a “dum ass” when you can’t even spell it. Fucking hell, you people make me sick.

 I love how YOU call someone a “dum ass” when you can’t even spell it. Fucking hell, you people make me sick.

 I love how YOU call someone a “dum ass” when you can’t even spell it. Fucking hell, you people make me sick.

Without the Navy, you wouldn’t have an Air Force?Do your research.The U.S.Navy has the best aviators in the world.I served on-board the USS Carl Vinson(CVN-70)Try landing on a carrier.

Without the Navy, you wouldn’t have an Air Force?Do your research.The U.S.Navy has the best aviators in the world.I served on-board the USS Carl Vinson(CVN-70)Try landing on a carrier.

Uh hello dumb ass, all this means is you get paid for the actual days u are in the combat zone. You can’t come in country on a one day visit and get paid combat pay for the full month. Too many people abused this.

Uh hello dumb ass, all this means is you get paid for the actual days u are in the combat zone. You can’t come in country on a one day visit and get paid combat pay for the full month. Too many people abused this.

Uh hello dumb ass, all this means is you get paid for the actual days u are in the combat zone. You can’t come in country on a one day visit and get paid combat pay for the full month. Too many people abused this.

Uh hello dumb ass, all this means is you get paid for the actual days u are in the combat zone. You can’t come in country on a one day visit and get paid combat pay for the full month. Too many people abused this.

Uh hello dumb ass, all this means is you get paid for the actual days u are in the combat zone. You can’t come in country on a one day visit and get paid combat pay for the full month. Too many people abused this.

Uh hello dumb ass, all this means is you get paid for the actual days u are in the combat zone. You can’t come in country on a one day visit and get paid combat pay for the full month. Too many people abused this.

Uh hello dumb ass, all this means is you get paid for the actual days u are in the combat zone. You can’t come in country on a one day visit and get paid combat pay for the full month. Too many people abused this.

Uh hello dumb ass, all this means is you get paid for the actual days u are in the combat zone. You can’t come in country on a one day visit and get paid combat pay for the full month. Too many people abused this.

Uh hello dumb ass, all this means is you get paid for the actual days u are in the combat zone. You can’t come in country on a one day visit and get paid combat pay for the full month. Too many people abused this.

Uh hello dumb ass, all this means is you get paid for the actual days u are in the combat zone. You can’t come in country on a one day visit and get paid combat pay for the full month. Too many people abused this.

Uh hello dumb ass, all this means is you get paid for the actual days u are in the combat zone. You can’t come in country on a one day visit and get paid combat pay for the full month. Too many people abused this.

Uh hello dumb ass, all this means is you get paid for the actual days u are in the combat zone. You can’t come in country on a one day visit and get paid combat pay for the full month. Too many people abused this.

Uh hello dumb ass, all this means is you get paid for the actual days u are in the combat zone. You can’t come in country on a one day visit and get paid combat pay for the full month. Too many people abused this.

Why don’t you actually read what the legislation says, instead of stupidly taking the rule out of context.

http://www.military.com/benefits/content/military-pay/special-pay/hostile-fire-and-imminent-danger-pay.html 

It says that soldiers will get “prorated” pay, instead of getting a full month’s worth of combat pay for being in a combat zone for only two days, they’ll get combat pay for those two days.  This is reasonable.  Nobody would deny a soldier who is in the zone their due, this only keeps it fair for everyone, including those who’ve used the previous guidelines to milk the system of monies they really weren’t entitled to.  

SAD NOW HE IS GETTING CHEEP ON HIS TROOPS  WRONG ANSWER ……CUT HIS PAY

That is such BS I can’t wait until our Peace of Racist Crap President gets his ass voted out of office the saddest thing is that I voted for his ass like the millions of others yes we have seen change from him like he promised the Rich are getting richer and the poor are the poorest. I think that its really sad that this world that God created is being run by a racist president who only cares about his people which are most definetly not us. I will probably be ridiculed and complained at for my opinion because we no longer live In a free country but I don’t care. I strongly believe that our military sould be paid more than any other career that there is these men and women lay their lives on the line everyday to protect out country and For What when they keep getting pushed down and thrown away COME ON WAKE UP everyone needs God and only Jesus can help us now. I am so very sorry to hear this and it truly is unjustified.

That is such BS I can’t wait until our Peace of Racist Crap President gets his ass voted out of office the saddest thing is that I voted for his ass like the millions of others yes we have seen change from him like he promised the Rich are getting richer and the poor are the poorest. I think that its really sad that this world that God created is being run by a racist president who only cares about his people which are most definetly not us. I will probably be ridiculed and complained at for my opinion because we no longer live In a free country but I don’t care. I strongly believe that our military sould be paid more than any other career that there is these men and women lay their lives on the line everyday to protect out country and For What when they keep getting pushed down and thrown away COME ON WAKE UP everyone needs God and only Jesus can help us now. I am so very sorry to hear this and it truly is unjustified.

This is a pure outrage!  How can he be allowed to do this, when he sits in his Oval house that OTHER PEOPLE (not me!!!!)  elected him to, where he is safe and feels like he is God Almighty himself. My son has served both in Baghdad and presently in Africa. How dare him deny my son – and other soldiers their HARD-EARNED pay. This is a disgrace!!!!!!!

Yeah really makes sense! Are you kidding me?…. I am sooooo sick of paying for people who take advantage of and commit fraud in the entitlement programs, and educating, and providing healthcare for illegal aliens, not to mention bailing out irresponsible homeowners and corporations! Have we Americans lost our minds?… Our men and women sacrificing comfort ,family and their lives for us deserve all we can give to them. They are most certainly under- paid as it is and then this?!?….. What a slap in he face! I am ashamed for us.

Hey, authors. They are not saying that Iraq and Afghanistan have changed – both entire countries are still hostile areas for pay purposes That hasn’t changed. What HAS changed is that you now only get hostile fire pay for the days you are in country. It used to be you’d get the full $250 even if you were only there for one day out of a given month (say on your way there or back out again.) Now, it’s pro-rated. This makes sense, it’s a good way to tighten up the Federal budget a little. Because when I was over in Iraq we always had these senior officer “tourists” zooming in for the last two days of one month and the first two days of the next, and then taking off again back to safety. For their trouble, they rated two months of hostile fire pay, save pay, separation pay, and combat zone tax exclusion on all pay. Kind of ridiculous. The change makes sense. Check your facts, guys, and edit this article HEAVILY. 

Exactly. Thanks for pointing out the accuracy. This article has got a lot of people spun up. And over the next few days, it’s going to require a lot of Commanders and NCOs have to debunk the rumors flying around the net and explain the facts, taking valuable time away from training and mission. To the authors, you might want to tighten up your shot group a little and do some basic source/accuracy checking and so on before hitting submit.

Exactly. Thanks for pointing out the accuracy. This article has got a lot of people spun up. And over the next few days, it’s going to require a lot of Commanders and NCOs have to debunk the rumors flying around the net and explain the facts, taking valuable time away from training and mission. To the authors, you might want to tighten up your shot group a little and do some basic source/accuracy checking and so on before hitting submit.

This is the actual information for those of you jumping to conclusions, from my email as I leave in a week.

A new law may affect the pay you receive when you are on duty in an imminent danger pay (IDP) area.  About 27 locations world-wide have been designated by the Secretary of Defense as IDP areas.  

The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 (NDAA 2012), signed on December 31, 2011, requires we begin prorating IDP so that members are paid for only the actual days they perform duty in an IDP area.  Before December 31, members received the full $225 a month even if they performed duty only one day in an IDP area.  Now service members will receive $7.50 for each day they are on duty in an IDP area up to the maximum monthly rate of $225.  Members who are exposed to a hostile fire or hostile mine explosion event are eligible to receive non-prorated Hostile Fire Pay (HFP) in the full monthly amount of $225.  Members cannot receive both IDP and HFP in the same month.

The law required proration to begin on December 31, 2011; however, because it took time to publish implementing guidance and ready pay systems, we were not ready to begin prorating the pay on that date.  DoD began to pay the prorated payments beginning February 1, 2012.  If you are eligible to receive IDP, you may see the prorated amount of the pay in your February 15th pay depending on the actual number of days you spend in an IDP area.

Some members may have been overpaid between the date the NDAA was signed on December 31, 2011, and February 1, 2012, when the pay systems began proration.

The military services are working to waive or remit debts for members who may have been overpaid during this period.  The intent is that you will not be liable for any overpayment during this period.  Also, you do not need to request or take any action for this to take place.  Your service will take care of this for you.  

This is the actual information for those of you jumping to conclusions, from my email as I leave in a week.

A new law may affect the pay you receive when you are on duty in an imminent danger pay (IDP) area.  About 27 locations world-wide have been designated by the Secretary of Defense as IDP areas.  

The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 (NDAA 2012), signed on December 31, 2011, requires we begin prorating IDP so that members are paid for only the actual days they perform duty in an IDP area.  Before December 31, members received the full $225 a month even if they performed duty only one day in an IDP area.  Now service members will receive $7.50 for each day they are on duty in an IDP area up to the maximum monthly rate of $225.  Members who are exposed to a hostile fire or hostile mine explosion event are eligible to receive non-prorated Hostile Fire Pay (HFP) in the full monthly amount of $225.  Members cannot receive both IDP and HFP in the same month.

The law required proration to begin on December 31, 2011; however, because it took time to publish implementing guidance and ready pay systems, we were not ready to begin prorating the pay on that date.  DoD began to pay the prorated payments beginning February 1, 2012.  If you are eligible to receive IDP, you may see the prorated amount of the pay in your February 15th pay depending on the actual number of days you spend in an IDP area.

Some members may have been overpaid between the date the NDAA was signed on December 31, 2011, and February 1, 2012, when the pay systems began proration.

The military services are working to waive or remit debts for members who may have been overpaid during this period.  The intent is that you will not be liable for any overpayment during this period.  Also, you do not need to request or take any action for this to take place.  Your service will take care of this for you.  

No don’t put them on TriCare. TriCare is free health care. You don’t pay anything for it, no monthly bill, no bill when you see a doctor, no bill for prescriptions, nothing. It’s the purest form of socialized medicine we have, though the VA is similar for fully disabled Veterans. Congress gets paid plenty, they don’t need the really good health care coverage our military has. They can keep paying for theirs!

Correction, WE pay for secret service.

It’s only really going to effect like Generals and such that go to places like Kuwait, Manas, or countries in Africa At the very end of the month to only a day or 2 into the next month to collect 2 months tax free pay. It’s not gonna effect you average joes, This is just a super Right side writer who got a letter from some retarded ass super right marine and blew it all out of proportion. 

It’s only really going to effect like Generals and such that go to places like Kuwait, Manas, or countries in Africa At the very end of the month to only a day or 2 into the next month to collect 2 months tax free pay. It’s not gonna effect you average joes, This is just a super Right side writer who got a letter from some retarded ass super right marine and blew it all out of proportion. 

It’s only really going to effect like Generals and such that go to places like Kuwait, Manas, or countries in Africa At the very end of the month to only a day or 2 into the next month to collect 2 months tax free pay. It’s not gonna effect you average joes, This is just a super Right side writer who got a letter from some retarded ass super right marine and blew it all out of proportion. 

It’s only really going to effect like Generals and such that go to places like Kuwait, Manas, or countries in Africa At the very end of the month to only a day or 2 into the next month to collect 2 months tax free pay. It’s not gonna effect you average joes, This is just a super Right side writer who got a letter from some retarded ass super right marine and blew it all out of proportion. 

How in the hell can this pencil pushing blue gum motherfucker take away from people that are risking everything so his proud to be an american ass, can sit around and take money from em. And they say bush was a bad president I bet all you dumbass motherfuckers that gave him your vote are very happy, just another reason why this fuck has to go, walfare is paid senators and governors are paid but the men and women that protect us do without a pay check.
I HATE THIS FUCKING GOVERNMENT ….. He promised a change and then he changed his promise

How in the hell can this pencil pushing blue gum motherfucker take away from people that are risking everything so his proud to be an american ass, can sit around and take money from em. And they say bush was a bad president I bet all you dumbass motherfuckers that gave him your vote are very happy, just another reason why this fuck has to go, walfare is paid senators and governors are paid but the men and women that protect us do without a pay check.
I HATE THIS FUCKING GOVERNMENT ….. He promised a change and then he changed his promise

How in the hell can this pencil pushing blue gum motherfucker take away from people that are risking everything so his proud to be an american ass, can sit around and take money from em. And they say bush was a bad president I bet all you dumbass motherfuckers that gave him your vote are very happy, just another reason why this fuck has to go, walfare is paid senators and governors are paid but the men and women that protect us do without a pay check.
I HATE THIS FUCKING GOVERNMENT ….. He promised a change and then he changed his promise

How in the hell can this pencil pushing blue gum motherfucker take away from people that are risking everything so his proud to be an american ass, can sit around and take money from em. And they say bush was a bad president I bet all you dumbass motherfuckers that gave him your vote are very happy, just another reason why this fuck has to go, walfare is paid senators and governors are paid but the men and women that protect us do without a pay check.
I HATE THIS FUCKING GOVERNMENT ….. He promised a change and then he changed his promise

This is crap. Next they will take away the federal tax exempt status for enlisted troops deployed in a combat theater.
 

Thanks for accurately posting what actually changed… Sigh.

So people need to get ALL THE FACTS before they start bashing on an online post, some right wing crazy wrote the information they wanted to hear to get everyone stirred up bashing this change. From a soldier leaving to go overseas soon, please get the correct information first

So people need to get ALL THE FACTS before they start bashing on an online post, some right wing crazy wrote the information they wanted to hear to get everyone stirred up bashing this change. From a soldier leaving to go overseas soon, please get the correct information first

Thanks for doing what you do Army Wife, supporting your husband. But I have to point out that they aren’t basing this change of pay on location. The entire country of Afghanistan is still a hostile fire pay area. What’s changed is that the pay is now pro-rated, so if you arrive on the 21st of the month, you only get one weeks’ worth of hostile fire pay for that month. The rest of your deployment you’ll get the full rate, of course, except the last month where again, you’ll be prorated. So if you leave on the 15th, you’ll get just half the hazard fire pay. So really, it’s not a big change. And it makes sense, when I was in Iraq, we’d have these senior officer “tourists” jet in for the last two days of one month, and the next two days of the next month. Then they would jet back out again to safety. For that they got two full months of hazard fire pay, save pay, separation pay, and tax free exclusion for ALL pay. Kind of ridiculous. Tell your husband I said keep his head down.

I do agree that we dint get paid well, I’m not for them paying us less either. But America is in a bad time right now, if we don’t save money some how it’s going to get real bad! It’s not like the people in Iraq won’t get those pay. There are a lot of other countries where we can get this pay with no danger to us at aall. Think about why you joined the military if it was just for a job then do your 4 years and get out.

I do agree that we dint get paid well, I’m not for them paying us less either. But America is in a bad time right now, if we don’t save money some how it’s going to get real bad! It’s not like the people in Iraq won’t get those pay. There are a lot of other countries where we can get this pay with no danger to us at aall. Think about why you joined the military if it was just for a job then do your 4 years and get out.

I do agree that we dint get paid well, I’m not for them paying us less either. But America is in a bad time right now, if we don’t save money some how it’s going to get real bad! It’s not like the people in Iraq won’t get those pay. There are a lot of other countries where we can get this pay with no danger to us at aall. Think about why you joined the military if it was just for a job then do your 4 years and get out.

I do agree that we dint get paid well, I’m not for them paying us less either. But America is in a bad time right now, if we don’t save money some how it’s going to get real bad! It’s not like the people in Iraq won’t get those pay. There are a lot of other countries where we can get this pay with no danger to us at aall. Think about why you joined the military if it was just for a job then do your 4 years and get out.

I do agree that we dint get paid well, I’m not for them paying us less either. But America is in a bad time right now, if we don’t save money some how it’s going to get real bad! It’s not like the people in Iraq won’t get those pay. There are a lot of other countries where we can get this pay with no danger to us at aall. Think about why you joined the military if it was just for a job then do your 4 years and get out.

That would be unconstitutional.

That would be unconstitutional.

That would be unconstitutional.

That would be unconstitutional.

That would be unconstitutional.

LET’S DROP BARRY’S SICKASS OFF IN AFGHANISTAN…..AND LEAVE HIM THERE….WITH NO PAY…AND LET’S SEE HOW LONG THAT HOMO …EVIL DEMON FROM HELL WILL LAST IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DESERT!!  HE IS DEFINITELY WORKING WITH SATAN!!

LET’S DROP BARRY’S SICKASS OFF IN AFGHANISTAN…..AND LEAVE HIM THERE….WITH NO PAY…AND LET’S SEE HOW LONG THAT HOMO …EVIL DEMON FROM HELL WILL LAST IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DESERT!!  HE IS DEFINITELY WORKING WITH SATAN!!

LET’S DROP BARRY’S SICKASS OFF IN AFGHANISTAN…..AND LEAVE HIM THERE….WITH NO PAY…AND LET’S SEE HOW LONG THAT HOMO …EVIL DEMON FROM HELL WILL LAST IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DESERT!!  HE IS DEFINITELY WORKING WITH SATAN!!

LET’S DROP BARRY’S SICKASS OFF IN AFGHANISTAN…..AND LEAVE HIM THERE….WITH NO PAY…AND LET’S SEE HOW LONG THAT HOMO …EVIL DEMON FROM HELL WILL LAST IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DESERT!!  HE IS DEFINITELY WORKING WITH SATAN!!

LET’S DROP BARRY’S SICKASS OFF IN AFGHANISTAN…..AND LEAVE HIM THERE….WITH NO PAY…AND LET’S SEE HOW LONG THAT HOMO …EVIL DEMON FROM HELL WILL LAST IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DESERT!!  HE IS DEFINITELY WORKING WITH SATAN!!

Thanks for fighting the good fight and linking the accurate information.

Thanks for fighting the good fight and linking the accurate information.

Thanks for fighting the good fight and linking the accurate information.

Thanks for fighting the good fight and linking the accurate information.

Thanks for fighting the good fight and linking the accurate information.

Shameful.  And this is from the man who leads our military… Just shameful.  
Military families remain Semper Fi… even when our country’s leader turns his back.  BO is a disgrace to the office, once again.

Shameful.  And this is from the man who leads our military… Just shameful.  
Military families remain Semper Fi… even when our country’s leader turns his back.  BO is a disgrace to the office, once again.

Shameful.  And this is from the man who leads our military… Just shameful.  
Military families remain Semper Fi… even when our country’s leader turns his back.  BO is a disgrace to the office, once again.

That is the craziest thing I have ever heard of… I think we are all in constant danger if the twin towers going down ‘on American soil’ doesnt convince everyone then you are crazier than this amendment– our soldiers and military ALREADY give up being away from friends and family and some never return home to their friends and family. No one ever knows when danger will strike anyone – I think they should get paid MORE for just being military and doing their job. Most of our families only get to see their loved ones about once a year if then, and then they turn right around and leave again. If Uncle Sam wants to take away money from someone, why dont they take it from the politicians and leaders who are supposed to be doing their jobs and NOT!  At least our men and women in uniform are doing their jobs and making us proud; on the other hand our leaders and politicians seem to be making this country a laughingstock-instead of going forward, we seem to be retrieving to the stone ages!

That is the craziest thing I have ever heard of… I think we are all in constant danger if the twin towers going down ‘on American soil’ doesnt convince everyone then you are crazier than this amendment– our soldiers and military ALREADY give up being away from friends and family and some never return home to their friends and family. No one ever knows when danger will strike anyone – I think they should get paid MORE for just being military and doing their job. Most of our families only get to see their loved ones about once a year if then, and then they turn right around and leave again. If Uncle Sam wants to take away money from someone, why dont they take it from the politicians and leaders who are supposed to be doing their jobs and NOT!  At least our men and women in uniform are doing their jobs and making us proud; on the other hand our leaders and politicians seem to be making this country a laughingstock-instead of going forward, we seem to be retrieving to the stone ages!

That is the craziest thing I have ever heard of… I think we are all in constant danger if the twin towers going down ‘on American soil’ doesnt convince everyone then you are crazier than this amendment– our soldiers and military ALREADY give up being away from friends and family and some never return home to their friends and family. No one ever knows when danger will strike anyone – I think they should get paid MORE for just being military and doing their job. Most of our families only get to see their loved ones about once a year if then, and then they turn right around and leave again. If Uncle Sam wants to take away money from someone, why dont they take it from the politicians and leaders who are supposed to be doing their jobs and NOT!  At least our men and women in uniform are doing their jobs and making us proud; on the other hand our leaders and politicians seem to be making this country a laughingstock-instead of going forward, we seem to be retrieving to the stone ages!

That is the craziest thing I have ever heard of… I think we are all in constant danger if the twin towers going down ‘on American soil’ doesnt convince everyone then you are crazier than this amendment– our soldiers and military ALREADY give up being away from friends and family and some never return home to their friends and family. No one ever knows when danger will strike anyone – I think they should get paid MORE for just being military and doing their job. Most of our families only get to see their loved ones about once a year if then, and then they turn right around and leave again. If Uncle Sam wants to take away money from someone, why dont they take it from the politicians and leaders who are supposed to be doing their jobs and NOT!  At least our men and women in uniform are doing their jobs and making us proud; on the other hand our leaders and politicians seem to be making this country a laughingstock-instead of going forward, we seem to be retrieving to the stone ages!

That is the craziest thing I have ever heard of… I think we are all in constant danger if the twin towers going down ‘on American soil’ doesnt convince everyone then you are crazier than this amendment– our soldiers and military ALREADY give up being away from friends and family and some never return home to their friends and family. No one ever knows when danger will strike anyone – I think they should get paid MORE for just being military and doing their job. Most of our families only get to see their loved ones about once a year if then, and then they turn right around and leave again. If Uncle Sam wants to take away money from someone, why dont they take it from the politicians and leaders who are supposed to be doing their jobs and NOT!  At least our men and women in uniform are doing their jobs and making us proud; on the other hand our leaders and politicians seem to be making this country a laughingstock-instead of going forward, we seem to be retrieving to the stone ages!

That is the craziest thing I have ever heard of… I think we are all in constant danger if the twin towers going down ‘on American soil’ doesnt convince everyone then you are crazier than this amendment– our soldiers and military ALREADY give up being away from friends and family and some never return home to their friends and family. No one ever knows when danger will strike anyone – I think they should get paid MORE for just being military and doing their job. Most of our families only get to see their loved ones about once a year if then, and then they turn right around and leave again. If Uncle Sam wants to take away money from someone, why dont they take it from the politicians and leaders who are supposed to be doing their jobs and NOT!  At least our men and women in uniform are doing their jobs and making us proud; on the other hand our leaders and politicians seem to be making this country a laughingstock-instead of going forward, we seem to be retrieving to the stone ages!

That is the craziest thing I have ever heard of… I think we are all in constant danger if the twin towers going down ‘on American soil’ doesnt convince everyone then you are crazier than this amendment– our soldiers and military ALREADY give up being away from friends and family and some never return home to their friends and family. No one ever knows when danger will strike anyone – I think they should get paid MORE for just being military and doing their job. Most of our families only get to see their loved ones about once a year if then, and then they turn right around and leave again. If Uncle Sam wants to take away money from someone, why dont they take it from the politicians and leaders who are supposed to be doing their jobs and NOT!  At least our men and women in uniform are doing their jobs and making us proud; on the other hand our leaders and politicians seem to be making this country a laughingstock-instead of going forward, we seem to be retrieving to the stone ages!

This fother-mucker needs to go back to Kenya.

This fother-mucker needs to go back to Kenya.

I have. And the military does get a lot of advantages. It’s actually a pretty good deal. I got paid to learn the Arabic language (backward letters and all), relevant career training, all of my undergraduate education paid for plus the GI Bill for four more years of free education. Free health care and dental for every day I served, and free health care at the VA for anything service connected for life. Veteran’s preference for Federal and state jobs. I made great friends, pushed myself past my limits, got to see parts of the world I never would have otherwise. It was an honor to serve. The pay might not be great but I truly believe I got more out of it than I gave. Back to the original point, the only thing that changed is troops are only paid Hazardous Fire Pay for days they are IN COUNTRY (and yes the whole country of Afghanistan still counts.) They are not paid for the full month if they only spent part of the month in a danger area. They are only paid for the portion of the month they had boots on the ground. This is not some terrible change. It’s a good cost saving measure at a time when everyone’s budget is getting trimmed. Frees up some money for other vital defense needs.

I have. And the military does get a lot of advantages. It’s actually a pretty good deal. I got paid to learn the Arabic language (backward letters and all), relevant career training, all of my undergraduate education paid for plus the GI Bill for four more years of free education. Free health care and dental for every day I served, and free health care at the VA for anything service connected for life. Veteran’s preference for Federal and state jobs. I made great friends, pushed myself past my limits, got to see parts of the world I never would have otherwise. It was an honor to serve. The pay might not be great but I truly believe I got more out of it than I gave. Back to the original point, the only thing that changed is troops are only paid Hazardous Fire Pay for days they are IN COUNTRY (and yes the whole country of Afghanistan still counts.) They are not paid for the full month if they only spent part of the month in a danger area. They are only paid for the portion of the month they had boots on the ground. This is not some terrible change. It’s a good cost saving measure at a time when everyone’s budget is getting trimmed. Frees up some money for other vital defense needs.

AMEN

AMEN

I think is more like say a ship is in port for 1 day in Afghanistan as of Feb 1 they will only get payed for the time they are in port $7.50 a day where as before they would get payed the $220 for the whole month for only being in port for 1 day. 
On duty in a foreign area in which he was subject to the threat of physical harm or imminent danger on the basis of civil insurrection, civil war, terrorism, or wartime conditions. So because your in wartime conditions you should still get payed. 

I think is more like say a ship is in port for 1 day in Afghanistan as of Feb 1 they will only get payed for the time they are in port $7.50 a day where as before they would get payed the $220 for the whole month for only being in port for 1 day. 
On duty in a foreign area in which he was subject to the threat of physical harm or imminent danger on the basis of civil insurrection, civil war, terrorism, or wartime conditions. So because your in wartime conditions you should still get payed. 

I would like to see our government officals who are considering this an “appropriate” measure in those “safe’ zones and over seas: then see how they would rethink this measure.

Hey, kid, if you’re still Active Duty you might want to belay that talk. You can be burned by your command from what you post in message forums. Take it from someone who’s been there, done that though at least what I said wasn’t UCMJ actionable… Careful, now.

Hey, kid, if you’re still Active Duty you might want to belay that talk. You can be burned by your command from what you post in message forums. Take it from someone who’s been there, done that though at least what I said wasn’t UCMJ actionable… Careful, now.

Hey, kid, if you’re still Active Duty you might want to belay that talk. You can be burned by your command from what you post in message forums. Take it from someone who’s been there, done that though at least what I said wasn’t UCMJ actionable… Careful, now.

Hey, kid, if you’re still Active Duty you might want to belay that talk. You can be burned by your command from what you post in message forums. Take it from someone who’s been there, done that though at least what I said wasn’t UCMJ actionable… Careful, now.

Wow, I’d write out a lengthy debate to the ludicrous points you’ve tried to make in your statement, but your words alone prove how uninformed you are. So it would just be a waste of time. There is nothing wrong with having your own opinion, just make it an educated one for crying out loud!

Wow, I’d write out a lengthy debate to the ludicrous points you’ve tried to make in your statement, but your words alone prove how uninformed you are. So it would just be a waste of time. There is nothing wrong with having your own opinion, just make it an educated one for crying out loud!

Wow, I’d write out a lengthy debate to the ludicrous points you’ve tried to make in your statement, but your words alone prove how uninformed you are. So it would just be a waste of time. There is nothing wrong with having your own opinion, just make it an educated one for crying out loud!

Wow, I’d write out a lengthy debate to the ludicrous points you’ve tried to make in your statement, but your words alone prove how uninformed you are. So it would just be a waste of time. There is nothing wrong with having your own opinion, just make it an educated one for crying out loud!

Wow, I’d write out a lengthy debate to the ludicrous points you’ve tried to make in your statement, but your words alone prove how uninformed you are. So it would just be a waste of time. There is nothing wrong with having your own opinion, just make it an educated one for crying out loud!

Wow, I’d write out a lengthy debate to the ludicrous points you’ve tried to make in your statement, but your words alone prove how uninformed you are. So it would just be a waste of time. There is nothing wrong with having your own opinion, just make it an educated one for crying out loud!

Wow, I’d write out a lengthy debate to the ludicrous points you’ve tried to make in your statement, but your words alone prove how uninformed you are. So it would just be a waste of time. There is nothing wrong with having your own opinion, just make it an educated one for crying out loud!

Yeah, those combat tourists always cracked me up.

Yeah, those combat tourists always cracked me up.

Yeah, those combat tourists always cracked me up.

Yeah, those combat tourists always cracked me up.

Yeah, those combat tourists always cracked me up.

Yeah, those combat tourists always cracked me up.

Thanks for the lesson Gunny, it has made this soldier a bit more enlightened, and even though it isn’t my branch’s motto, Semper Fi and thank you

Thanks for the lesson Gunny, it has made this soldier a bit more enlightened, and even though it isn’t my branch’s motto, Semper Fi and thank you

Thanks for the lesson Gunny, it has made this soldier a bit more enlightened, and even though it isn’t my branch’s motto, Semper Fi and thank you

Thanks for the lesson Gunny, it has made this soldier a bit more enlightened, and even though it isn’t my branch’s motto, Semper Fi and thank you

I say Hooah

excuse my language but this is bill shit!

excuse my language but this is bill shit!

excuse my language but this is bill shit!

The entire country qualifies. That hasn’t changed. This Marine doesn’t understand the e-mail. He’ll get combat pay for only the days he IN COUNTRY. If he leaves on the 15th of this month, he will only get the prorated pay (1/2) for this month, not the full month. Not a huge change.

The entire country qualifies. That hasn’t changed. This Marine doesn’t understand the e-mail. He’ll get combat pay for only the days he IN COUNTRY. If he leaves on the 15th of this month, he will only get the prorated pay (1/2) for this month, not the full month. Not a huge change.

The entire country qualifies. That hasn’t changed. This Marine doesn’t understand the e-mail. He’ll get combat pay for only the days he IN COUNTRY. If he leaves on the 15th of this month, he will only get the prorated pay (1/2) for this month, not the full month. Not a huge change.

The entire country qualifies. That hasn’t changed. This Marine doesn’t understand the e-mail. He’ll get combat pay for only the days he IN COUNTRY. If he leaves on the 15th of this month, he will only get the prorated pay (1/2) for this month, not the full month. Not a huge change.

The entire country qualifies. That hasn’t changed. This Marine doesn’t understand the e-mail. He’ll get combat pay for only the days he IN COUNTRY. If he leaves on the 15th of this month, he will only get the prorated pay (1/2) for this month, not the full month. Not a huge change.

This is what the email actually says…A new law may affect the pay you receive when you are on duty in an imminent danger pay (IDP) area.  About 27 locations world-wide have been designated by the Secretary of Defense as IDP areas.  The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 (NDAA 2012), signed on December 31, 2011, requires we begin prorating IDP so that members are paid for only the actual days they perform duty in an IDP area.  Before December 31, members received the full $225 a month even if they performed duty only one day in an IDP area.  Now service members will receive $7.50 for each day they are on duty in an IDP area up to the maximum monthly rate of $225.  Members who are exposed to a hostile fire or hostile mine explosion event are eligible to receive non-prorated Hostile Fire Pay (HFP) in the full monthly amount of $225.  Members cannot receive both IDP and HFP in the same month.The law required proration to begin on December 31, 2011; however, because it took time to publish implementing guidance and ready pay systems, we were not ready to begin prorating the pay on that date.  DoD began to pay the prorated payments beginning February 1, 2012.  If you are eligible to receive IDP, you may see the prorated amount of the pay in your February 15th pay depending on the actual number of days you spend in an IDP area.Some members may have been overpaid between the date the NDAA was signed on December 31, 2011, and February 1, 2012, when the pay systems began proration. The military services are working to waive or remit debts for members who may have been overpaid during this period.  The intent is that you will not be liable for any overpayment during this period.  Also, you do not need to request or take any action for this to take place.  Your service will take care of this for you. If you have questions about this pay, please contact your finance office.  

This is what the email actually says…A new law may affect the pay you receive when you are on duty in an imminent danger pay (IDP) area.  About 27 locations world-wide have been designated by the Secretary of Defense as IDP areas.  The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 (NDAA 2012), signed on December 31, 2011, requires we begin prorating IDP so that members are paid for only the actual days they perform duty in an IDP area.  Before December 31, members received the full $225 a month even if they performed duty only one day in an IDP area.  Now service members will receive $7.50 for each day they are on duty in an IDP area up to the maximum monthly rate of $225.  Members who are exposed to a hostile fire or hostile mine explosion event are eligible to receive non-prorated Hostile Fire Pay (HFP) in the full monthly amount of $225.  Members cannot receive both IDP and HFP in the same month.The law required proration to begin on December 31, 2011; however, because it took time to publish implementing guidance and ready pay systems, we were not ready to begin prorating the pay on that date.  DoD began to pay the prorated payments beginning February 1, 2012.  If you are eligible to receive IDP, you may see the prorated amount of the pay in your February 15th pay depending on the actual number of days you spend in an IDP area.Some members may have been overpaid between the date the NDAA was signed on December 31, 2011, and February 1, 2012, when the pay systems began proration. The military services are working to waive or remit debts for members who may have been overpaid during this period.  The intent is that you will not be liable for any overpayment during this period.  Also, you do not need to request or take any action for this to take place.  Your service will take care of this for you. If you have questions about this pay, please contact your finance office.  

This is what the email actually says…A new law may affect the pay you receive when you are on duty in an imminent danger pay (IDP) area.  About 27 locations world-wide have been designated by the Secretary of Defense as IDP areas.  The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 (NDAA 2012), signed on December 31, 2011, requires we begin prorating IDP so that members are paid for only the actual days they perform duty in an IDP area.  Before December 31, members received the full $225 a month even if they performed duty only one day in an IDP area.  Now service members will receive $7.50 for each day they are on duty in an IDP area up to the maximum monthly rate of $225.  Members who are exposed to a hostile fire or hostile mine explosion event are eligible to receive non-prorated Hostile Fire Pay (HFP) in the full monthly amount of $225.  Members cannot receive both IDP and HFP in the same month.The law required proration to begin on December 31, 2011; however, because it took time to publish implementing guidance and ready pay systems, we were not ready to begin prorating the pay on that date.  DoD began to pay the prorated payments beginning February 1, 2012.  If you are eligible to receive IDP, you may see the prorated amount of the pay in your February 15th pay depending on the actual number of days you spend in an IDP area.Some members may have been overpaid between the date the NDAA was signed on December 31, 2011, and February 1, 2012, when the pay systems began proration. The military services are working to waive or remit debts for members who may have been overpaid during this period.  The intent is that you will not be liable for any overpayment during this period.  Also, you do not need to request or take any action for this to take place.  Your service will take care of this for you. If you have questions about this pay, please contact your finance office.  

This is what the email actually says…A new law may affect the pay you receive when you are on duty in an imminent danger pay (IDP) area.  About 27 locations world-wide have been designated by the Secretary of Defense as IDP areas.  The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 (NDAA 2012), signed on December 31, 2011, requires we begin prorating IDP so that members are paid for only the actual days they perform duty in an IDP area.  Before December 31, members received the full $225 a month even if they performed duty only one day in an IDP area.  Now service members will receive $7.50 for each day they are on duty in an IDP area up to the maximum monthly rate of $225.  Members who are exposed to a hostile fire or hostile mine explosion event are eligible to receive non-prorated Hostile Fire Pay (HFP) in the full monthly amount of $225.  Members cannot receive both IDP and HFP in the same month.The law required proration to begin on December 31, 2011; however, because it took time to publish implementing guidance and ready pay systems, we were not ready to begin prorating the pay on that date.  DoD began to pay the prorated payments beginning February 1, 2012.  If you are eligible to receive IDP, you may see the prorated amount of the pay in your February 15th pay depending on the actual number of days you spend in an IDP area.Some members may have been overpaid between the date the NDAA was signed on December 31, 2011, and February 1, 2012, when the pay systems began proration. The military services are working to waive or remit debts for members who may have been overpaid during this period.  The intent is that you will not be liable for any overpayment during this period.  Also, you do not need to request or take any action for this to take place.  Your service will take care of this for you. If you have questions about this pay, please contact your finance office.  

Your son will get paid. This article is wrong. The whole country of Afghanistan counts. The only thing that’s changed is that he will only get paid extra for the days he is in the country. Instead of getting a full month’s pay for the month he is not there all 30-31 days for.

The idiot probably is pissed off at something or isn’t even in the milatary!

Um, no they don’t. It’s more like, they spend twice as much on Defense as they do on Welfare. You can argue about which one you’d cut, but get your facts straight.

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/welfare_budget_2012_4.html

Shift differential is an incentive. Flight pay is an incentive. Reenlistment bonuses are incentives. Hazardous duty pay is a well-earned compensation, not an incentive. The risky, dangerous or hazardous positions in any line of work, any industry ALWAYS receive compensation. If they used some of the same management techniques that successful businesses have used, our armed forces would be some of the highest paid professionals in America. And the ones deployed to certain regions would qualify for a whole lot more than $225 a month.

If you Sheeple were to REALLY read this bill and actually comprehend the information, you would understand that POTUS is NOT denying IDP or tax free… But only ensuring that people who deserve it are getting it. As it used to be, if you crossed into the tax free zone for only one day you received IDP and Taxfree for the entire month…. Now the get it for that one day the were there. That is fair. And before you start crying “LIBERAL!!!”. Or “What do you know???!!”. I just retired after 20 years active duty with 4 trips to the Persian gulf… So yea… I know… It’s fair.

check out Snopes.com  bogus, though I wouldn’t pt it past him to try….

It’s yet another tactic to DESTROY our country. A man who would not pledge his allegiance to the U.S.A flag which represents the country itself. People saw this BEFORE the election and yet voted for him. He is an enemy of the state and has proved it every step of the way.

It’s yet another tactic to DESTROY our country. A man who would not pledge his allegiance to the U.S.A flag which represents the country itself. People saw this BEFORE the election and yet voted for him. He is an enemy of the state and has proved it every step of the way.

It’s yet another tactic to DESTROY our country. A man who would not pledge his allegiance to the U.S.A flag which represents the country itself. People saw this BEFORE the election and yet voted for him. He is an enemy of the state and has proved it every step of the way.

It’s yet another tactic to DESTROY our country. A man who would not pledge his allegiance to the U.S.A flag which represents the country itself. People saw this BEFORE the election and yet voted for him. He is an enemy of the state and has proved it every step of the way.

The article is inaccurate. The whole country is still a combat zone for
pay purposes. Only thing that changed is they only get paid extra for
the days they are in country, while before they got paid extra for the
whole month even if they left and went safely back home the first week
of that month.

Take away some of the congress benefits and give them to the working men in combat.

 Navy = Sailors

 Navy = Sailors

 Navy = Sailors

 Navy = Sailors

You sorry S.O.B.!!!! How dare you take this pay away from our soldiers? Just because you are a coward and could NOT last 2 seconds over there, you want to punish Soldiers? I am outraged and disgusted!!!!

Geezz I only got $55.00 for Hazpay in Nam.

Geezz I only got $55.00 for Hazpay in Nam.

I agree with the pay being taken away is fucked up, hey that means I’m losing $225/month (not exactly). They changed the humids pay to being daily and not the full $225 each month. You get $7.50 each day you are in theater for a total monthly amount of up to $225. Which is B.S. because before you’d get the full $225 each month.

I love it, “Doctors or Chaplains.” You try riding out to a FOB or to remote site to pick up wounded or sitting back with a kid who just took to forklift tines through the chest, begging “please don’t let me die.” Only to have him bleed out. I am a lowly nurse who has had to put pressure on some Airmens neck after an IED and his Carotid artery was so fragile it blew. How about when I was in Kirkuk and the ammo dump was hit and the Hajis were shooting all over the base but we kept our OR in full operation. Oh I was Combat Comm before I went O side of the house and let me tell you it is a lot easier tejan. You’re right though none of us are on the same level as you sun Gods are, of course we don’t need to brag as much either.

You are a sad sad excuse for a hate mongering human being.

I just don’t understand. I am sitting here at Walter Reed National Navy Medical Center. My husband lost his legs and rendered other severe injuries. Not by being shot at, but by walking and stepping on an IED! Everywhere they go over there is dangerous. It’s just not fair… he hads sacrificed so much for this country

Your a fool!

Your a fool!

In reading the LAW. I see possibility for people REALLY getting screwed. I don’t know how the old law read. The implementation is the catch.
I don’t like the way the law reads. I understand that some people get combat pay for being in far less danger than an infantryman. I earned a CIB in 1970 and REMFs getting combat pay was an irritant for me at the time. But if you give the bean counters an opening they will screw people just to make themselves look good so the law needs to be at LEAST be reworded.
Otherwise we risk boots on the ground people and people on small FOBs only getting hazardous duty pay on days when someone shoots at them or the base or someone gets vaporized by an IED. Were the people at the far end of the column in danger? If not why pay them extra? Maybe only the wounded should get the extra pay for that day.
Second platoon patrols for 10 days, get shot at 3 times, so they get 3 days extra pay and 7 regular pay. Thats how I read the law could be implemented.
I have serious “trust issues” when if comes to politicians and military operations.

In reading the LAW. I see possibility for people REALLY getting screwed. I don’t know how the old law read. The implementation is the catch.
I don’t like the way the law reads. I understand that some people get combat pay for being in far less danger than an infantryman. I earned a CIB in 1970 and REMFs getting combat pay was an irritant for me at the time. But if you give the bean counters an opening they will screw people just to make themselves look good so the law needs to be at LEAST be reworded.
Otherwise we risk boots on the ground people and people on small FOBs only getting hazardous duty pay on days when someone shoots at them or the base or someone gets vaporized by an IED. Were the people at the far end of the column in danger? If not why pay them extra? Maybe only the wounded should get the extra pay for that day.
Second platoon patrols for 10 days, get shot at 3 times, so they get 3 days extra pay and 7 regular pay. Thats how I read the law could be implemented.
I have serious “trust issues” when if comes to politicians and military operations.

Everyone in Afghanistan they get their $7.50 per day. The whole country is considered a combat zone for IDP.

Everyone in Afghanistan they get their $7.50 per day. The whole country is considered a combat zone for IDP.

http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=67030

It’s actually based on the number of days you spend in a combat zone (not whether or not you are being fired on).  So, if you spend two weeks in Iraq and two weeks in Kuwait, then you get the ID pay for the two weeks you were actually in a combat zone.  The previous rules said, as long as you were participating in a combat operation you got the pay (which with today’s technology could mean anywhere in the world).  They also said, if you spent one day in a combat zone, then you got paid for the full month (so flying from the Navy Base in Bahrain, attending a meeting in the Green Zone, and then flying back out, would net you the same pay as the poor bastard who’s been BOG for the entire month in Baghdad).

And your just a stupid marxist dick suck!!

These soldiers are the reason why him and his family are safe!!! I am a firm believer in that every president should serve this country!!! I am ready for him to be out of office before he makes any other stupid decisions. Unreal

What a needlessly inflammatory, misleading title. About time they did this. I was in the Horn of Africa in 2009. People at our heavily fortified HQ base in Djibouti were getting all the “combat perks” – hazardous duty, hostile fire, non-taxable income, the works – but 4-10 man teams operating hours away from any other support in Kenya, Uganda, Congo, Ethiopia, etc. were not eligible for those same benefits. All because some high-ranking officers wanted more money.

This is a needed change, and one which the military has been complaining about for years. It’s about time. Even if it was as terrible as the title of this article makes it seem, it isn’t as though Obama dreamed this up himself. Idiots need to learn how our own country’s government works. Makes me wonder why I still serve, when this is the bullshit I’m protecting.

All they did was prorate the hostile pay to a daily pay to preclude people that have no intentions of staying in the zone, from raking in big bucks (usually of the higher ranking variety).

This blog is not truthful, and closer to deception than reality. 

I love how everybody on here is flipping out over this. Nothing has changed if you are in a combat zone. It says it in black and white. The previous system for combat pay was based on a monthly cycle. If you spent 24 hours in a combat zone, you get combat pay for the entire month. Air crews would run shifts from the US to theater for a 36 hour mission once a month and get paid the same amount as a grunt on the front lines. The new policy closes the gaps in fairness and saves money.  I am a veteran with 3 years in Iraq and this is a better system that works. DON’T BE SHEEPLE!!!!! Inform yourself and research things on your own, don’t follow what everyone else is saying.

Come on folks.  Before, all you had to do was to set foot in a combat zone for part of a day, and you’d get the full $225.  Now it’s prorated, based on the number of days you spend in a combat zone.  This is fair.  Save you tax payers money.  Get a grip. 

You fool, the Combat Controller calls in the heat when your dumbass needs it the most. Actually how can someone who says what you say actually not know what Combat Controller is, you are either a poser or so stupid you probably weren’t taken out on patrol.
RLTW!!!

You fool, the Combat Controller calls in the heat when your dumbass needs it the most. Actually how can someone who says what you say actually not know what Combat Controller is, you are either a poser or so stupid you probably weren’t taken out on patrol.
RLTW!!!

if their Danger Pay is $225 extra per month,what is their regular pay?

Also, determined on whether the member has dependents.  If the member is authorised to live off base, they receive a housing allowance too, and that is determined by zip code and with or w/o dependent rate.

The gravy train is ovah.

Cpl., I was just deployed as a Ground Liaison (briefing pilots on actions on the ground and the kind of support asked for by the Ground Commander), I spend six months on an Aircraft Carrier and six in Qatar. I received that pay for both and I shouldn’t have… I was never in any danger. I am not an Obama fan and I look forward to him being a one term President but if he’s talking about getting rid of the pay for those in my situation, I’m all for it.

Also, Navywif… Afghanistan is landlocked…. just saying…

Cpl., I was just deployed as a Ground Liaison (briefing pilots on actions on the ground and the kind of support asked for by the Ground Commander), I spend six months on an Aircraft Carrier and six in Qatar. I received that pay for both and I shouldn’t have… I was never in any danger. I am not an Obama fan and I look forward to him being a one term President but if he’s talking about getting rid of the pay for those in my situation, I’m all for it.

Also, Navywif… Afghanistan is landlocked…. just saying…

Well I feel like I need to redeem myself a little bit! Yes, we as tax payers pay for the “Secret Service”. I knew that and didn’t exactly come off as I wanted to. We, the people, don’t get to decide what  they’re paid or how, but I’ll just bet its more than our military guys fighting for our country, who put thier live’s on the line for us everyday of our lives. I feel that “all” of our military guys are under paid to begin with. How aweful is it that the very people who have the most dagerous job in the world, protecting this country, are on the President’s list ,looking for a way to save money to bail out  the bad decisions made by our government officals. I don’t mean to sound like an idiot!!!! I just hear what I hear and see what I see. I have a close friend who’s husband is a, what I call,” big shot” in Iraq. He’s been in two military convoy’s where bombs where set off on them and lives were lost. I don’t care where our  military guys are. If they’re  outside of this country, they are targets and in a high risk situation. And 225.00$ a month, 250.00$ a month, whatever it was for “combat pay” was a joke to begine with!!!!!! Really??????? Is that that all combat pay is worth?????? I don’t understand the ins and outs of all the military lingo, payouts and whatnot, but I do see and uderstand whats not right. Our government is all messed up!!!!!!!! And who gets to take several vaccations a year to take some stress off thier life with body gaurds to ensure the peace that comes along with a Vacation, not you or me ( Our president does)!!!!! I’m a dairy farmer!!!!! I help feed the world and I never get a break, ever. Thats another story!!!!! The government nearly always screws the farmers so I can identify with what our military people go through!!!! I’m thankful everyday of my life that we have people who put thierselves out there to serve and protect this country so I can have what I have in life, nomatter how hard it is!!!!

This article only holds water if you are not informed. Before, all you had to do
was to set foot in a combat zone for part of a day, and you’d get the
full $225. Now it’s prorated, based on
the number of days you spend in a combat zone. This is fair and it saves tax
payer’s money. The full $225 is an entire month’s entitlement. It’s
not fair to the men and women who are in harm’s way for a full month,
only to see some person transiting through the area for a few hours get
the full rate. 

This article is not telling the true story, I have a copy of the actuall memo sent by our chain of command,if anyone would like a copy. I personally think it is wrong to twist the truth.

Afghanistan is land locked.

the way you are trying to say it is if a guy gets deployed for 12 months on July 1st then he will be there til july 1st the next year… last time I checked that isn’t how the military works… you don’t get there on the 1st of the month and you rarely leave on the exact day several months later that you got there… are you sure that you are a mil wife? because you have little knowledge of how the mil works

in the country for one day OF THAT MONTH.. seriously ppl need to learn the word “Context”

Has anyone actually read the real info about this? All it did is pro-rate Imminent Danger Pay and make it so the commander of the local AOR determines whether you get hostile fire pay or hazardous duty pay. Big f’n deal. Now you don’t get $450 if you stop by the AOR for 2 days (i.e. 31 Jan-1 Feb), you get $15. $7.50 per diem. Not that $7.50 a day would make it worth it if you actually did get shot at during the 2 days you were there. That’d be some BS.

I COULDN’T AGREE WITH YOU MORE!!!!!! As a daughter of a Pearl Harbor Survivor who is now 88 years old, I can only watch his face when he listens to the news and sees these pathetic excuses we have as so-called leaders of our nation. I’m sure he’s thinking, “what the hell did I nearly die for?” And, “why did I spend the next 72 hours straight pulling bodies and parts of bodies out of the water for?” And, then he came home, got his Master’s Degree, helped build this country to it’s ultimate glory, just to have it trashed by a bunch of idiots. Every time Obama comes on TV, he tells us to change the channel. My mother, rest her soul, was in the Navy–as was her sister and they were very proud of their service. I thank you for your service to our country and please thank your children and may God bless your family. I’m pissed off just like you and I will be writing some letters also. I’m not too sure our Senators & Congressmen even know how to read, but we’ll give it a shot! I will give up on politicians, but never give up on our Great Nation.

So, here we are on a blog, riling up others with an opinion before really delving into the facts.

This provision was part of a much larger bill, H.R.1540 – National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012, that went through both houses of Congress, which passed 283-136 in the House of Representatives and 86-13 in the Senate, before being signed by Obama.  To put the onus completely on him in an editorial piece isn’t really fair.

Obama even said, “The fact that I support this bill as a whole does not mean I agree with everything in it.”

And Military.com does not have the correct wording of the provision either:

http://www.dfas.mil/militarymembers/payentitlements/specialpay/hfp_idp.html

HFP and IDP are two separate pays.  You can only claim one or the other.  This provision basically prevents a soldier, or even a unit, from stepping into a designated HFP or IDP area for a few days and receiving the full month of extra pay, especially if they are there for only a day.  People were abusing this in the past.  Soldiers might come in on the last day of a month, stay a day into the next month, and receive pay for 2 full months of HFP or IDP.There’s also confusion about what an HDP or IDP area is.  If soldiers are stationed in a designated area (see http://comptroller.defense.gov/fmr/07a/07a_10.pdf) for a fairly lengthy time (which is normal for military tour of duties), then they collect.  Notice the broad spectrum defined for these areas from that PDF link.  Those on a base in Afghanistan, Kuwait, etc., or who have less life-threatening jobs (chaplains, postal workers, musicians, etc.) receive this extra pay, along with those who are on the front lines.  It doesn’t stop someone from collecting on one day because they didn’t get shot at, it just pro-rates for how many days a person stays in the designated HFP or IDP zone.Funny how this distracts from most of the original controversy on this bill.  It had language that was perceived to allow for American citizens to be arrested, detained indefinitely, sent to another nation to be tortured or even assassinated, which was pretty much the same language that was in many of the previous annual NDAA bills after 9/11.When it was Bush, Democrats protested.  Now that it’s Obama, Republicans are protesting.  Well, not all of them.http://youtu.be/1Woua5nCPFE

Anyone located in the AOR recieves Combat pay. It is prorated once in the areas of “lesser danger” i.e. Qatar, Kuwait… If you know of trainer that did not recieve the pay then they were screwed over by their commander. The only way that can hapen is if they are the Senior Management did not change their order set to being in the AOR. When they are deployed the TPFDL also places them in the AOR and that should also have provided the Haz Fire Pay.

Here’s a simpler summary.
You get HFP or IDP if you are in a designated HFP or IDP zone.  It’s just pro-rated for days you aren’t in the designated zone.What constitutes an HFP or IDP zone?According to the PDF I liked above, here’s one.Afghanistan – Land area and airspace.Hmmm… that’s the whole country.How about another one?Kuwait – Land area and airspace.Again, the whole country.  Getting the idea?

i know a Combat Controller and he is best friends with an ARMY Green Beret. They met on the battlefield while doing this ‘grunt’ work you claim the AF is incapable of doing. They have fought back to back and killed to save each others lives. Stop being naive.

***Airmen
****Seamen 

This makes total sense. Only COMBAT soldiers should be the ones receiving COMBAT pay. This is what every grunt has been saying over the past ten years, as we go on COMBAT missions outside the wire every single GD day- and the other “soldiers” sit on FOB’s eating at DFAC’s sleeping in AC, playing on the computer all day and XBOX/PS3′s at night. Give me one reason they deserve the same pay increase as me who deal’s with IED’s and fire fights……… ANYONE?

Army times explanation….sound pretty legit…..
Starting this month, some troops will begin receiving less Imminent
Danger Pay when a new policy takes effect that will prorate the standard
$225 monthly IDP stipend.
Under the new policy, troops will be
paid only for the actual days they spend in the danger pay location,
defense officials said Thursday.
Under the previous policy, troops
who spent any portion of the month in a danger pay location received
danger pay for the entire month.
The proration amounts to $7.50
per day. So, for example, if a service member spends only 7 days of the
month in Afghanistan, he or she will have only $52.50 in Imminent Danger
Pay added to their paycheck.
Exceptions will be made for troops
who are “exposed to a hostile fire incident”, regardless of location.
They will receive the full monthly amount of $225.
The change was
mandated by Congress as a part of the 2012 budget, and the Pentagon
announced the implementation of the new rules on Thursday.

As an infantry medic i find this highly insulting. The next thing you know he will be rounding up all the military aged males and making them fight in the militia..oh wait that is right. this is NOT Africa. Better yet, Lets shit on the soldiers and the families that keep this nation safe. I am sure that all of them really dont care. Remember the old saying? Love it or leave it? It has been replaced with Shit on it or defile it. I am sick of this nation being a bunch of candy ass pussy’s. First you tell them the rules of engagement. Then you tell them that they can be put in harms way and not have a government stand behind them. There was a fire base in Afghanistan that got rocketed 44 times in one day. I am glad that Obama wasn’t in office then. He would have blamed us for putting our fire base in the “the bad guys” firing range. What makes these fat bastards think that they can shit on our Armed Forces and still have these men and women want to serve? I bet by this time next year they will be getting minimum wage with no health benefits. The contractors that go over there to rebuild them will get thousands a month. (true story look into the civilian contractors that are over there.) It is also our military that provides security for them. I would love to see Obama visit our troops over seas to show his support. More to the point. I would love to see Obama pack his bags and get out of office. At what point is enough enough?

I too received this message and took it to mean that we would only receive it for the days we were actually in the combat zone as opposed to receiving it for the entire month when we have only spent one day of that month in a combat zone. For instance in the past if we spent the first day of the month in Kuwait and then left to come back to the states we got combat pay for the entire month, which to be honest I always thought was a bit ridiculous, not that I ever minded the paycheck. Not that I’m a fan of all the military cut backs but I am getting tired of soldiers over reacting to everything and always bitching about it.

Hey truth, u asshole, my son’s base in Afghanistan is in a combat zone, while he is not on a mission, they sit and relax, so he is not in danger cause he is sitting! U dumb f$&@!!!

He should be ashamed of himself.  If he wants to save money, how about starting in Washington.

Our military needs that combat pay.  What is wrong with that mans thinking?  Lets take away his pay after he is our of office. Lets stop his family trips to Chicago.  Make them pay for their own luxury.  Our military needs COMBAT PAY.  We have got to stop taking more and more away from the people that defend our country.

The military is not fighting for our freedom… they fight for the will of rich men and a paycheck, but they should definitely get more $ than they do

@Truth;
So your telling me that you agree with the fact that I won’t get hazard/combat pay until I’m either hurt or killed…?!? Are you fucking retarded??? That’s the whole problem to begin with. Your an idiot, a Hippocrit, and a liar if you agree with that. Priod.

@Truth;
So your telling me that you agree with the fact that I won’t get hazard/combat pay until I’m either hurt or killed…?!? Are you fucking retarded??? That’s the whole problem to begin with. Your an idiot, a Hippocrit, and a liar if you agree with that. Priod.

 When I first went into the Air Force/ I was a Airborne TACP, The Army loved us not only could we fight but we had the resources and knowledge to call in those F-16, A-10 and the deadly C-130 gunship, Which we could keep on station for many hours and pin-point 40mm and 105 Hol just by a heat signature. Many and I mean many a 11Bravo owe his ass to the USAF Combat Crews.  I was assigned to the 82nd to jumped in and called Close Air Support.  I went to Army Ranger School, Air Assult, Halo, Scuba, JumpSchool/JumpMaster, Recondo, I jumped a full combat load same as my Army counter-parts but added 3 radios to my weight. And then after that crossed trained in Pararescue, People have no idea that the AF has several AFSC that are in the heat of every battle as well as most special ops missions and are many times the first in and last to leave, You have CCT Combat Control Teams/Pararescue/ and TACP The Ground AF combative are tough as nails.

He is the most shittiest president ever. It’s already hard enough for military families. People think  they make a whole lot of money. Yeah, right. I can vouch for that.  He does not need to be re-elected.

Keep combat pay for real combat.  Not sitting in a Florida mall drinking cold ones at the end of the day. Give me a break.

 I received combat pay while deployed for the first gulf war.  But didn’t get it when back in Germany

You get the 225 combat pay for a whole fucking month! which isn’t much at all, you’re away from you’re family, in ridiculously hot weather, you get a 15 minute phone call per week to call home, you work more hours, how is our military not earning their pay?

You get the 225 combat pay for a whole fucking month! which isn’t much at all, you’re away from you’re family, in ridiculously hot weather, you get a 15 minute phone call per week to call home, you work more hours, how is our military not earning their pay?

This is horrible, Obama’s family can spend over a hundred thousand dollars to go on vacation but the soldiers who are deployed are having pay cuts. Seriously. Anytime a soldier is in a war zone He or she is in danger of being killed so they deserve the pay and much more in my opinion. Obama is seriously ruining this country.

This is horrible, Obama’s family can spend over a hundred thousand dollars to go on vacation but the soldiers who are deployed are having pay cuts. Seriously. Anytime a soldier is in a war zone He or she is in danger of being killed so they deserve the pay and much more in my opinion. Obama is seriously ruining this country.

Pay scales would be cool, but who’s going to foot the bill for the civilian house of all the government workers.

Fauxbama needs to stop fucking with military personnel. They suffer breakdown of marriages, miss children being born, PTSD, injuries, death & threats of no pay because politicians get into a pissing match. They get paid SHIT for protecting our country. 

Fauxbama needs to stop fucking with military personnel. They suffer breakdown of marriages, miss children being born, PTSD, injuries, death & threats of no pay because politicians get into a pissing match. They get paid SHIT for protecting our country. 

Fauxbama needs to stop fucking with military personnel. They suffer breakdown of marriages, miss children being born, PTSD, injuries, death & threats of no pay because politicians get into a pissing match. They get paid SHIT for protecting our country. 

Well, I think if your shot at, or bombed you will probably be killed, so he won’t have yo pay you. He sits on what he thinks is his mighty position collecting nearly 400.000 a year, with secret service  (notice his secret service has the same initials as a Natzi army branch  ”SS”) protect his ass thinking they will be special and be saved from all the bad things happening now. They should even have less pay than our Military. That is IF our Military intends to keep their oath better than the dictator we now have in charge  which at least used to be to defend our boarders OUR boarders and our constitution.  Our dear liberal dictator also swore that oath before God and millions of witnesses, (then took the “Oath” again in secret because He “Made a Mistake?”  They should have re administrated that oath over again on the spot!!!   Makes me wonder what the (secret “Oath” the one behind closed doors after the real oath said and to whom or what he swore his 
allegiance to ???)

Could this have anything to do with the overwhelming military support for Dr Paul?

Oh that poor Oppressed black man (Hey baby. If they can play that race card so can I/we) 

Oh that poor Oppressed black man (Hey baby. If they can play that race card so can I/we) 

Oh that poor Oppressed black man (Hey baby. If they can play that race card so can I/we) 

Oh that poor Oppressed black man (Hey baby. If they can play that race card so can I/we) 

I’m just curious, but who is in charge of editing the “Army Times”? 

And Always remember, especially when voting, that Muslim law dictates it all right to LIE to non Muslims to get what the Muslim wants  That law came back and bit him in the ass..

Sounds like the same policy that’s always been in effect…

Sounds like the same policy that’s always been in effect…

You know if my boss kept cutting my pay or if I wasn’t getting paid enough to begin with, or if my boss lied to get where he is today, I’D QUIT ON THE SPOT AND LOOK FOR BETTER EMPLOYMENT. None of us would blame any military man for doing this although I know none will do it because at least our men in uniform still HAVE HONOR!!!

You know if my boss kept cutting my pay or if I wasn’t getting paid enough to begin with, or if my boss lied to get where he is today, I’D QUIT ON THE SPOT AND LOOK FOR BETTER EMPLOYMENT. None of us would blame any military man for doing this although I know none will do it because at least our men in uniform still HAVE HONOR!!!

You know if my boss kept cutting my pay or if I wasn’t getting paid enough to begin with, or if my boss lied to get where he is today, I’D QUIT ON THE SPOT AND LOOK FOR BETTER EMPLOYMENT. None of us would blame any military man for doing this although I know none will do it because at least our men in uniform still HAVE HONOR!!!

Well if you live in Florida it seems to me you shouldnt get haz. pay.!!! ITS NOT A WAR ZONE.!!! Come on people.

Your an idiot! Uneducated idiot! So all this talk about pay & Obama “taking funding away from troops” answer this, has the military ever been a lucrative business for the soldiers? When a republican was In Office did they raise the pay for a military? No they just kept putting money into programs not the soldiers but everyone was happy about that. We seem to always fight a 4 yr unwinnable war when republicans are in charge. I have friends in the military and they weren’t forced they volunteered they know the pay isn’t great and the ones who think they will be taken care of by joining are FOOLS. I know people still fighting to get the signing bonuses they were promised. So this underfunding of the military is nothing new, just a new thing to blame Obama for. All you people complaining WILL NEVER STAND FOR NOTHING AND WILL NEVER DO ANYTHING BUT COMPLAIN OVER THE COMPUTER. And if your job offers hazard pay but you’re never in in any danger why should u get it? I support the military all the way but don’t turn the reduction in pay into him hating the military. “cut congress’ paycheck” blah blah blah I bet all the guys in the good ol boy network will laugh right in your face, they aren’t taking a paycut. Anything to argue about

Ok, as a former paratrooper, I AGREE with this, After I was injured and went to Kuwait, the people there were bragging about getting combat patches and combat pay, the same goes for the guys in the FOBs that, even if they got morter attacked, could walk outside to WATCH it because the FOB was so big, that it would never fall in a area that could hurt somebody. FOBs like Salerno in Afghanistan, that place we called “rocket city” for a reason, it was always getting hit. THOSE guys SHOULD get the extra cash, If you never left camp Wolf….. f**k your pay, and your patch

If Afghanistan wasn’t landlocked, the example would be absolutely correct. There are several sea areas (Persian Gulf as an example) that are considered “Hostile Waters.” Under the old policy, if one day was spent in Hostile Waters for the month, the entire crew would get $225 extra that month. In fact, if they spent a hour in that water, they would get the extra pay. Many captains passing by Hostile Waters would often change course to spend that hour and get the extra pay. Under the current policy, they would only get paid for the actual days spent in hostile water, or $7.50 each day. But, if the ship was fired upon while spending that hour in Hostile Waters, they would get the full $225. The same applies for Marines or Soldiers on the ground. You fly out of Afghanistan on the 1st, $7.50 instead of $225. But, if a rocket lands near you on that day, or you get engaged in a firefight, you get the $225. That’s the new policy that was horrendously explained above. This article is designed to manipulate people into a negative reaction against Obama. As for everyone that thinks we soldiers don’t get paid enough, thank you. For those reacting to a poorly explained policy change with complete anger, learn what’s actually going on first.

You must be Linda’s cousin/brother. 

You must be Linda’s cousin/brother. 

You must be Linda’s cousin/brother. 

Keep insulting the Military and saying that we would break the oaths we took when we joined. You wanna keep talking about a military coup, how about you post your address and I’ll show you want I think should happen to seditious traitors.

This article is full of lies. I just asked my #1 daughter to look at it. She is married to a career military man who just got deployed for the 5th time. Here is what she said:

Oy! There is some truth to
this but there are some errors in this article. Before Feb 1, members
would get hazardous duty pay for a whole month even if they were only in
that area for 1 day during a calendar month. So say Joe went to
Afghanistan January 30 and returned March 2nd, he would get 3 months of
hazard duty pay. Well now he would get a month’s hazard duty pay for
January and then be prorated for the 3 days outside of the month of
January he was in the hazardous area.

Now for the errors in
this article. So I just got a letter from MyPay (the way we get paid in
the military), saying that I will only reason Combat Pay while deployed
for the days that I take fire or am in a hostile area.. We don’t get
letters from mypay and it is not how we get paid. Mypay is the website
we use to access our monthly LES (Leave and earnings Statement), w2’s
etc. In the paragraph above that they called it a Paypal account. Oy!!

“as he is ordering that our troops serving overseas in war zones
overseas are not to receive combat pay unless they are being shot at.”

The above is not accurate. They still get hazard duty pay if they are
in Qatar or Kuwait and they are not at risk of being shot at there. No
matter where they are at in Afghanistan they will receive hazard duty
pay. Even if they never leave the base.

Why is no one countering with Congress should only be paid when they are actually in session?  If the Congress and the President want to save money why don’t they reduce their own pay, require 20 years of service to collect retirement and pay the secret service out of their own pockets?  I’m a Navy wife and my husband did 9 tours over seas in 15 years.  You bet your sweet a$$ they deserve that small stipend when they are deployed to a hot zone!

Why is no one countering with Congress should only be paid when they are actually in session?  If the Congress and the President want to save money why don’t they reduce their own pay, require 20 years of service to collect retirement and pay the secret service out of their own pockets?  I’m a Navy wife and my husband did 9 tours over seas in 15 years.  You bet your sweet a$$ they deserve that small stipend when they are deployed to a hot zone!

Why is no one countering with Congress should only be paid when they are actually in session?  If the Congress and the President want to save money why don’t they reduce their own pay, require 20 years of service to collect retirement and pay the secret service out of their own pockets?  I’m a Navy wife and my husband did 9 tours over seas in 15 years.  You bet your sweet a$$ they deserve that small stipend when they are deployed to a hot zone!

 Amen to that! But if he get’s another term….there will be a skeleton military for the purpose of those impending cyber wars because we have no real threat except for our infrastructure.  And if he truly believes that, I have some moon sand he can buy.

 Don’t forget that fantastic Halloween Alice in Wonderland themed party at the White House. Johnny Depp dressed as Mad Hatter, Even Tim Burton was there. Obama and his wife are hypocrites. They make me SICK!! We don’t want them here in Mass when they should be WORKING.

 Standing ovation for that one.

Not to mention those ridiculous pensions he, house speaker and the senate get.

Not to mention those ridiculous pensions he, house speaker and the senate get.

Not to mention those ridiculous pensions he, house speaker and the senate get.

Not to mention those ridiculous pensions he, house speaker and the senate get.

Depending on where you are at. I was on Kandahar Airfield Base. We have MWR’s, USO and shitty ass internet. If you have the money for it and or the time, you actually could call home every day or atleast e-mail. Hell, even on small ass FoBs. 

Maybe congressmen should “ONLY” be paid for days actually work in DC…… KEY WORD “WORK” not reside

 They should also be forced into Obama care and not exempt.

We get paid extra!! If we stayed in Iraq or Afghanistan 1 day longer than our assignment, we would usually get paid for that whole month. Now it will only be for that extra day. Is that so bad? 

We get paid extra!! If we stayed in Iraq or Afghanistan 1 day longer than our assignment, we would usually get paid for that whole month. Now it will only be for that extra day. Is that so bad? 

We get paid extra!! If we stayed in Iraq or Afghanistan 1 day longer than our assignment, we would usually get paid for that whole month. Now it will only be for that extra day. Is that so bad? 

Well, Mr. President there isn’t anyone shooting at you….why don’t you save us some money and take a cut in pay and while you’re at it, cut the budget for all those non-essentials you and the First Lady enjoy. Apparently you don’t understand that it doesn’t matter that our soldiers don’t get shot at 24 hours a day every day…what matters is that it is war in a HOSTILE country and they are always in danger, always. They deserve that pay and they should have that pay and you should be ashamed of yourself. You won’t be getting my vote this time around and I’m guessing you won’t be getting votes from veterans either. That’s a whole lot of votes.

yeah because that’s what we want…more hate, more dysfunctionality…call a person out but don’t join in. it’s counter productive.

Obama needs to be in the transferred to the combat zone.

Thanks for the explanation. I understand the need for people not to get paid for something they aren’t actually doing. I don’t see how  this can always work. I mean who’s watching to see if you’re engaged in a fire fight? How do they know what’s happening all the time? What if you’re out on patrol somewhere and you come back and have been in danger or something?  Do they just take the words of the people who are out on patrol? Is a patrol considered dangerous?  I don’t know a lot about it all. i’m not a soldier and never been over there. My husband is and has been over there and he was not on a forward operating base. He was an artillery man attatched to infantry. I mean how are they ever not in danger over there? I do understand the need for cut backs but it’s starting to seem nit pickey to me.  I mean you’re a soldier. Do you not also believe that if your on the ground there that you’re in danger? I guess I’m just concerned that a lot of soldiers will lose out here.
 

Put that sorry idea of a president on minimum wage and see how often he can’t make ends meet in our economy. I am very sorry for our troops that risk their lives everyday in a ”hostile world” n oone can predict when hostility will take control of an area or situation.

MMMMM  The   tax-free   goes   away   also?

MMMMM  The   tax-free   goes   away   also?

The problem is not really that people that are deployed don’t deserve the HDP.  The problem is that there are too many people that travel to these combat zones at the end of one month and return back to the states on the first of the next month and get HPD for both months.  Commanders visit there people like this all the time.  People take trips to HD locations to reenlist so they get the entire bonus tax free.  I spent 20 years serving my country and at times in harms way, I don’t see a problems with trying to put some honesty into the system.

I’m sorry look up a weapons loader how do you think the bombs and ammo get there for air support just because its the Air Force doesn’t mean everyone sits on their asses. You go load high amounts of explosives every day lightest being 500lbs. Or how about the combat controllers, pararescue, EOD, Security Forces, every day convoys time have changed AF is more involved in ground ops. So in all honestly they are grunts. No they arent the Army with their well earned history and praise but when it comes down to it all services are in it together like it or not

Can we pull his Secret Service protection for the same reason?

As    a   retired    type  ——— who  has  been  in    5   combat   areas  —   the  last    being    Iraq   in  2008 —You  are   correct  –but    do   you think  this  is  a   good  policy   change ? ——–Hey  i  know   guys    who  took  the   hop   to  kuwaite   to   reinlist    -   getting    75g     reinlistment   bonus    and   getting  it   tax    free   cause   they  were  in  a   Hostile   area  ———but    hell     we   arent     Lawyers   or   Dr’s   –  we  dont   make  that  much  ————  Leave  the   system   alone —————–Stop  all   aid   to  Egypt   and   ya   will  have  all the   money  ya   need  for  combat  pay  

okay im 18 years old and i think its a problem when and 18 year old girl has more common sense then the president. he is out of his god damn mind. lets put him through all of the training and deploy him and keep him away from his family for years at a time and then get back to me. it doesnt matter if they are being shot at or not. the risk their lives everyday so that idiot can have a country without the military there would be no defense. no defense means no country not country means no president. so its not that really hard to figure it out. give them back the t money that you stole from them and keep giving them the money that they deserve. if we can afford to give actors millions of dollars and if he can afford to go on vacations then we can keep paying out soliders what they deserve. they are the ones that deserve most of the money that we are in debt for. get your act together or sooner or later we will need a draft because no one will want to go into the military and eveything that we know will be lost. 

so yeahs theres a problem with this!

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Yes burn the child Hutchens Linda!  We should follow you with faith and CAPS LOCK on!

these people are idoits, our men and women in the military deserve everything they should take some of congresses pay away from them

“The change would fall mostly on rear-echelon and headquarters staff whose occasional and short visits to a hostile area, such as attending a change-of-command ceremony in Afghanistan, had provided them the same $225 monthly hostile fire pay that went to the front-line airmen or soldiers facing imminent danger every day of the month…Those one- or two-day visitors benefited from what ground combat troops had derisively called ‘sightseer pay.’”

 http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2012/02/air-force-danger-pay-020712w/

“The change would fall mostly on rear-echelon and headquarters staff whose occasional and short visits to a hostile area, such as attending a change-of-command ceremony in Afghanistan, had provided them the same $225 monthly hostile fire pay that went to the front-line airmen or soldiers facing imminent danger every day of the month…Those one- or two-day visitors benefited from what ground combat troops had derisively called ‘sightseer pay.’”
http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2012/02/air-force-danger-pay-020712w/

I’ll do this in bullet point format, just minus the bullet points:
-What exactly is an “illegal muslim?” Either you are referring to the conspiracy that he wasn’t born in this country, or you think being a muslim is illegal…which I wouldn’t put past you. To your first probable point, they released his birth certificate. What more do you want him to do? To your other…don’t be stupid.
-He did not solely lift the ban on don’t ask, don’t tell.
-Obination is not a word. Abomination is the word you are looking for.
-We are not one nation under God. We are actually pretty clear about not being affiliated with any religion in the constitution. You know, that one old piece of paper that has laws and stuff on it. Not to mention “One nation, under God” wasn’t added to the Pledge until 1954.
-Just to be clear, Sharia law is much more strict on homosexuality…stoning, etc.
-I just want to be clear that even if he was a muslim, which I don’t believe he is, he is well within his rights to be so.
Oh, I hate Obama. With a passion. There are soo many legitimate reasons to hate the man, don’t go making stupid things up that make us all look bad. Again, I hate the man. Just don’t be stupid.

From http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/08/17/eveningnews/main20093801.shtml  After 31 months in office:  President Obama:  61 vacation days; George W. Bush:180 days; Ronald Reagan: 112 vacation days; Bill Clinton: 28 days. And, again, let’s not forget that it was Obama’s fault that Bush destroyed the economy.

That is correct. The pay still stays the same for service members that are in a combat zone, just changes from a monthly amount to a daily amount. This policy stops all those wannabe combat members from visting the combat zone for 1 day and then leaving and claiming the whole month. If you think about it, its just fair to all of the service men that live in the combat zone daily. Frankly i am appaled that this story was written without proper research. I think the media that post this un documented crap is just as bad as the current presidency.

obama sucks!!!!!!!!

The United States has gotten so full of B.S. I would get out in a heartbeat. They will have a whole new class for “Combat Pay”.
I would look to working in the White House where You’ll get “Combat Pay all year round.

Looks good to me.  The way I read, you deploy to Afghanistan, or other combat area, you get paid for the day you arrive to the day you leave.  nothing in the language of the law suggests you must be shot at daily to receive the pay.  I believe this just shuts the loop hole of the admin wienies and brass showing up on a 31st, leaving the next day, and collecting two months imminent danger pay.  

true! Idiots in Washington!

Reagan, I think I could like you.

I voted for Obama, and although I know he certainly hasn’t lived up to all his promises, you’ve got to admit that he did try to do alot of things that would have been good for all, but he was often blocked by what I call “PPP” petty partisan politics.

Thank you for your “non-bullet point” response to the post put up by Hutchins Linda.  By the time I got to the word Obination, I was both seething AND hysterical laughing.  You really sound like someone with whom I could have a legitimate debate.  You clearly get all of your facts together before you start yelling about what’s wrong…so different from the typical ”I hate Obama because he is Obama” crowd….and you bitch about the actual facts.  Believe me, I fully acknowledge that there’s plenty of problems to bitch about.  Certainly enough that we don’t have to make any up.  But even though we’d be on opposite sides of the debate table, I know there’d be a lot of things we’d absolutely agree on…things that might even surprise us both.

I just wanted to say that.  I’d begun to feel that no one read the real news anymore, that no one checked their sources, that no one was able or willing to think for themselves anymore.  Thanks for renewing my faith that we can all agree to disagree…without sounding stupid.  ; )

Im sure you’ve never been to Afghanistan, because if you had been you surely would have noticed that pretty much every one of those Haji are gay and “man love Thursday” is their most cherished tradition. Strict my ass…they’re only allowed to use women for reproduction, they have little boys they rape for fun.

My screen name says it all.  I agree, sister.

This is so beyond bias its not even funny! P.s. coming from a military family.

I’m a 73 year old veteran who doesn’t have a good thing to say about any one person in the government “mafia” senate and house led by the dirtest piece of garbage in the White House. I’m damn well disgusted the way our “freedom keepers” are treated and I don’t give a “rip” if the arrest me tonight for exercing my right to let them hear my voice of disgust. They are damn lucky the masses haven’t risen yet and kicked their ass’s all the way back to hell like they deserve. 

I support our troops 100%,  I am an ex-Marine,but dont want to be a newsbreaker America but  dont you all see the false flags. Your US government DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOU OR OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS OVER THERE. They care about the oil, the money , the drugs , the power.!, This war shit is every adminstration since Clinton, they want to continue  scaring us into thinking a couple hundred Muslim radicals are going to invade the US with box cutters and kill us all . 9/11 the biggest scam to date, to get Americans pissed to go to war. 9/11 was part of the plan people. The government is taking our boy’s money  and everything else including their lives.During the Viet Nam war , you heard reports daily about our Marines, when is the last time on regular media  you heard about our Marines?  NOW !!!! –HEADLINE NEWS….ABC, NBC,FOX,…Lead story just in: Kim Kardashian  marries another Black basketbal player , Divorce maybe coming again, Dick still not big enough. Story II-Justin Bieber turns gay , wants to join Navy Seals ,Obama congratulates him.    Bush I – a war for the oil and poppy fields in Afghanistan, The CIA controls more drugs into the US than all of Mexico, they are in on the big plan too , Bush II …9/11- Oh, Definately an inside job. (Norad didnt go up to defend until all the bombing was done….75 minutes),the US defense against a US attack ,or ANY plane where it’s not supposed to be will be shot done immediately , Bombing ? and I mean bombing, planes did hit the towers though , but there were plenty of explosives in All 3 buildings in NYC full of explosives to cause the implosions and a new war for Daddy by our stoned Alchoholic president, Baby Bush. WMD ? Read the facts , they were working on the 9/11 buildings months prior to 9/11.The supposed terrorist weren’t even from Iraq, they were from Saudi Arabia, No now their in Afghanistan , no , now their in Libia, Now they are “really” in Egypt,the Muslim brotherhood. Till this day there are some Saudis that were never in America but were on the list. Some were Saudis working normal jobs. Can you say CIA boys and girls? Big daddy Bush was head of the CIA at one time …..M-m-m-m? Yes there were some bad boys in Iraq, but pick a country!  We could have attacked anyone in the middle east and it would have been OK, part of the lie ! . Now Obama the tokin Black ,Muslim,Communist president to finish off America. America . wake up , dont you see the Pattern  to take over America , for Obama to destroy our Constitution,by the way Obama once was a CIA asset during the Afghan-Russian war. He has been being primed for this for years. Now he refuses an oil pipeline from our neighbor Canada, If we deny this they will deal with China. Obama wants us to keep paying OPEC, Obamas King, the one he bows to. Our Marines should be lined up across the southern border of the USA and shooting anyone trying to cross, guess what , I bet they stop coming over !!!

Let the troops who are serving in countries where there’s a war going on keep their Combat Pay, tax exempt status and anything else we can give them and take away the full retirement from our federally elected officials who serve only one term in in office.  Let’s take away their last 6 raises they voted themselves without even asking us if we thought they had it coming. 

Seriously.  I actually looked in to this because I was kind of concerned that Obama might have actually done something this drastic to cut defense spending.  But I read the amended Hazardous Duty pay and honestly, it isn’t any different than it was back in ’03 when I deployed.  If anything it’s more lenient because it allows the commander of the unit to designate what constitutes hazardous duty.  As for the comment about Obama doing nothing but vacation.  What? You mean aside leading the nation during the capture of the most infamous terrorists in history.  Or no, maybe he was on vacation when he stopped the recession that the previous administration accelerated and slowed the job loss rates in America? GTFOH

This comment is definitely in the top ten stupidest comments ever read on the World Wide Web.  That’s saying something right there.

Hate to say this but this isn’t the truth and I’m not an Obama lover by ANY means. If they are involved in any hostile fire during the monthe they will receive that months pay otherwise they receive $7.50 per day. What this does stop is the GREEDY ass senior officers and senior NCO’s/first sgt’s who will come in the last couple days of a month and stay over a couple days into the next month to get two months of hazardous duty calling it a “morale” visit. It happened all the time in my 20 years. Seen it many times.

I absolutely love how this past Christmas was honored for the military at the white house but they do this. So typical of our amazing president. It’s for the military only that protects our nation and his spot to be able to be president. Dumbass.

Having read this article and not the resolution, the definition is still pretty broad of what constitutes a combat zone. According to the out of context snippet provided above, anyone serving on a ship is eligible for IDP. Anyone serving in any area that they “might” come into danger above and beyond what they would on a CONUS rotation is eligible. This includes South Korea, the UK, Italy, and pretty much any area that experiences what could be called domestic terrorism for that area. All this resolution does is remove eligibility for IDP from those serving in a unit that is physically located in the US. I never once received IDP while I was stationed stateside, and I didn’t deserve to. I only received it when I was physically located in an area where I was under threat of harm from non-US nationals.
@Hutchins Linda: I was born in Nebraska, and I received a certificate of live birth. Does this mean I’m an illegal alien?

While I can somewhat understand your point of view, no offense, but it does not sound like you come from a military family. That you’ve never had a year of sleepless nights wondering if your loved one will even be coming home. Spending a year terrified that someone in uniform will be knocking on your door with the worst news possible. And that you’ve never needed the combat bonus pay to be able to send care packages to that loved one twice a month, all the while praying that they are still there to receive it. 

All- I think this requires some serious clarification. This article is in no
way accurate with the actual policy (I assure you, I work in human
resources in the Army, so I’ve heard all about it). The Marine in the
article needs to do some research before he (or anyone else) starts to
place blame. Prior to 31 Dec 2011, if someone was in a hostile fire zone
(ie Afghanistan) even 1 day out of a month, they received the whole
$225 hostile fire pay. Under the new policy, you get paid by the day
($7.50 per day with a maximum monthly allowance of $225). So long as you
are physically in the hostile fire zone, you’ll get paid. It’s got
nothing to do with whether or not you’re being shot at on that
particular day. This policy change is extremely beneficial to the
military budget and American economy, but also to people like that Marine. Because when navy personnel on some ship sail into a
hostile fire zone for a few days at the beginning and end of consecutive
months, they’re getting paid the same as someone who has to suffer in
that zone for every day of the month, even after they go back to the US
or Europe or Asia. Same goes for the senior officers and enlisted that
go to Afghanistan for a day to “check it out” and get paid for the whole
month. The old system was unfair to the people on the ground all the
time. So please, before you all place inaccurate blame on the military,
the government, or the president, know the facts. Let all your buddies know what’s really going on. Rumors just
spread panic and anger that is in reality, completely unfounded. And
that’s only going to make life down range a million times crappier.

this is just bullshit and i think we all know it

REALLY? What next, Tell Our Military that they may only “CARRY” their Weapons when being Shot At!

I’m certainly no Obama fan.  That being said, consider the following:

-Birth certificate/birth announcement/certificate of live birth/picture of afterbirth on a dirty bathroom floor in a Chicago movie theater = irrelevant.  The man is in his fourth year of a four year term.  You can’t undo anything he’s done based on the questionable validity of a document.  It’s a moot argument.  Move on.

-We were certainly not founded as ”one nation under God.”  That very small and otherwise insignificant portion to our Pledge of Allegiance was added during the Cold War as a jab in the face of the U.S.S.R and the communist practice of doing away with religion.  News flash- it was all about international politics and nothing about our national founding (unless for some reason you believe that the nation was founded in 1954, in which case you should stop reading this and attend an actual civics or American History class).

-Sharia Law does not condone homosexuality any more than the Koran condones homosexuality, any more than the Bible condones homosexuality, any more than the Torah condones homosexuality.  But this too is irrelevent when you consider that Obama is in no way, shape, or form, a Muslim.  Do you not remember the entire Jeremiah Wright and the Chicago church congregation debacle that was all over the news during the last presidential election cycle?  Do you not remember that Obama was a member of said congregation for some 20 plus years?  That his daughters were baptized in said church?  It was the Trinity United Church of Christ.  What part of Trinity United Church of Christ invokes Islam in your mind?  Is it the reference to Christ?  Seriously?

Those who don’t bother to conduct their own research and verify the crazy sounding crap that they repeat will always end up sounding, well, crazy.  And very seldom do people become convinced of an opposing political viewpoint when those who are trying to convince them sound, well, crazy.  Educated reasoning is the strongest weapon that you could possibly posses in the fight to teach our citizens right from wrong, Constitutionally speaking and otherwise.  Take the time to educate yourself, you owe it to your fellow citizens as a responsible voting American.

I am in there service and I received the same email but I got a different take on it. It gathered from it that the hazard duty pay will be prorated for the amount of time that you are deployed to a combat zone. In the past if you were there for just a day, you would receive the full amount of $225 dollars. That is the amount allotted for the month. Now with this change, that amount will be prorated. For example, if i was in iraq for just a week of the month i would receive $7.XX dollars per day for that week instead of the full $225. Can someone please tell me if I misunderstood the message??

Roger that!!!    Most Americans that haven’t served don’t have a clue what it means when you raise your hand and take the Oath…..i will not waste my time explaining……for those of us that have served…….nuff said

Roger that!!!    Most Americans that haven’t served don’t have a clue what it means when you raise your hand and take the Oath…..i will not waste my time explaining……for those of us that have served…….nuff said

This is what the people voted in 4 years ago and he is doing this to our troops, You know the ones who FIGHT to give us FREEDOM oh yeah lets put him back in there NOT for those obama loving freaks. I think you so be forced to walk up to all of our MEN and WOMEN that serve this country and apologize, this is total crap, OBAMA why dont you take a pay cut and the rest of CONGRESS.

I have to repeat – are you just really stupid or do you like to spread propaganda?  How can you possibly blame Obama for a bill created by the members of The COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES 2012 (35 Republicans – 25 Democrats) which was passed by the Republican House majority 190 Republicans and 93 Democrats voted for; 43 Republicans and 93 Democrats voted against.  This type of ignorance is what allowed Bush to serve two terms and a majority in Congress. 

Unbelievable! Maybe we should send him over for combat duty!

You people are idiots – I couldn’t understand how the Republican party could get any votes at all but now I understand that you really can fool some of the people all of the time.

You should research a bit more before you fly off the handle and make yourself seem a fool. The only change that has been made is that the pay is now pro-rated. Under the old rule, if you spent even one day in the combat zone you could recieve a full month’s hostile fire/imminent danger pay. Now it will be prorated if you do not spend the entire month there. Aircrews used to fly one mission into a danger zone and reap the rewards, and rotations of troops would sometimes purposely delay their departure from the combat zone to get another month of that pay and another month of tax-free benefits. This change could save millions of dollars per year.

Now, the real issue is that $225 per month is pathetic to compensate for being shot at/rocketed/mortared/blown up. If someone came into your office/shop right now and told you they would pay you that much extra per month to get shot at or blown up, would it be enough?

Hell yeah I agree

Instead of complaining about it on here how about writing your senate and congress

Your still getting ripped off.  Even though there is no  amount of money  that is worth your life $7.00 a day is BS.  You guys a worth  a helluva lot more than that.

You know that this fellow isn’t fit to be the CIC of our nation. He doesn’t understand the average hard working patriotic american, and he only caters to those whose vote he may garner by legislating for more hand outs. I totally agree with You. Our service folks only get pennies per hour as compared to those who hold positions in government.