I am not sure what to say ahead of this, other than … “What did you/we expect?”
We know the rule of thumb with the liberal/left in this country … “Destroy All Monsters” … Monsters being those who SHOULD be supporting the democrat candidate, but don’t. Someone who doesn’t tow the union/party line. Someone who dares step outside the box and think for himself. Speaking REAL truth to power … to steal their phrase.
And so, poor “Joe The Plumber” has now been locked into the stockade in the public square of politically motivated unions and agenda driven MSM. Get ready, Joe. Here it comes, buddy.
By the way, Dollard Nation … Joe The Plumber is a racist. He makes the analogy of Obama to “tap-dancer” Sammy Davis Jr. … So, THAT’s all you’ll need to know from here on out about this man.
Nation’s Plumbers Hate Traitor Joe
It remains to be seen whether John McCain’s blue-collar hero, Ohio’s Joe the Plumber, is a Republican plant or not. (One thing he is definitely not: a licensed plumber.) Either way, though, he’s succeeded in raising the ire of a lot of his plumbing brethren, particularly those in the United Association of the Plumbing and Pipe Fitting Industry!
The UA was the “first international Union to endorse Senator Barack Obama for President of the United States,” having thrown their support behind Illinoisan way back in January. Radar called them up to see how they felt about a man so inextricably linked to the world of pipes suddenly becoming a campaign talking point. (We also listened to “Jitterbug” and Michael Jackson’s “Don’t Stop ‘Till You Get Enough” while on hold. Plumbers have a rather upbeat taste in music for people with such surly reputations!) “You know, hopefully Joe put in his time as an apprentice and a journeyman, so he can appreciate what it’s like to be a working person,” a spokesperson told us. “Now that he has succeeded and has the chance to become a contractor and a business owner, he should really be supportive of Senator Obama’s tax plan, which will benefit the working-class people who really need it.”
So, confidential to Joe: stop being such an asshole. You’re disappointing plumbers all over the country!
Joe the Plumber may not be Joe, and he may need a provisional ballot
by Stephen Koff - (Cleveland Plain Dealer)
(Me: THIS from the state, and especially the county where ACORN has registered so many ‘questionable’ voters that the state’s Dem Sec. of State felt the need to hide them until a court order …)
The original appearance of Joe the Plumber
This morning’s burning question: Can Joe the Plumber, star of last night’s presidential debate, vote in the upcoming election? There doesn’t appear to be a Joe Wurzelbacher — the Toledo man whose vote was sought directly by Barack Obama the other day, and by John McCain last night on national television — registered.
The Toledo Blade noted online this morning, as this became a media obsession: “Linda Howe, executive director of the Lucas County Board of Elections, said a Samuel Joseph Worzelbacher, whose address and age match Joe the Plumber’s, registered in Lucas County on Sept. 10, 1992. He voted in his first primary on March 4, 2008, registering as a Republican.
“Ms. Howe said that the name may be misspelled in the database.”
Public records databases examined by The Plain Dealer, including those for voter registration, indicate that Samuel Joseph Worzelbacher (note the “o” instead of the “u”), with the same street and age as the now famous Joe the Plumber, voted in 2002, 2005 and 2007. But he listed the Natural Law Party as his party.
Joe the Plumber mentioned during the debate
Other records, however, show there is a Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher (with a “u”) at that address. Based on people who appear to be his relatives, that is probably the correct spelling. Which raises the question: Is Joe the Plumber given a provisional ballot when he votes? Since there is a bit of confusion, obviously, would his registration be held out for scrutiny?
Joe, as he is called, talked with Katie Couric right after the debate last night. His opinion of Obama is that he tap dances “almost as good as Sammy Davis Jr.”
He noted that there were TV satellite trucks parked outside his house. He’s in high demand for interviews. That explains this recording on a phone number that comes up for him on some searches: “Joe Wurzelbacher does not live here. Don’t call for Joe Wurzelbacher anymore.”
‘Joe the plumber’ isnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t licensed
Local man focus of presidential debate
By LARRY VELLEQUETTE and TOM TROY - (Toledo Blade)
“Joe the Plumber” isnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t a plumber Ã¢â‚¬â€ at least not a licensed one, or a registered one.
A check of state and local licensing agencies in Ohio and Michigan shows no plumbing licenses under Samuel Joseph WurzelbacherÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s name, or even misspellings of his name.
Last night, his name, “Joe the Plumber,” came up about two dozen times in the debate between Mr. Obama and Republican nominee John McCain.
Since last night Mr. Wurzelbacher who lives alone with his 13-year-old son has been besieged with local and national news media, willingly granting interviews.
Mr. Wurzelbacher told reporters Thursday morning that he worked for Newell Plumbing & Heating Co., a small local firm whose business addresses flow back to several residential homes, including one on Talmadge Road in Ottawa Hills.
According to Lucas County Building Inspection records, A. W. Newell Corp. does maintain a state plumbing license, and one with the City of Toledo, but would not be allowed to work in Lucas County outside of Toledo without a county license.
Mr. Wurzelbacher said he works under Al NewellÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s license, but according to Ohio building regulations, he must maintain his own license to do plumbing work.
He is also not registered to operate as a plumber in Ohio, which means heÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s not a plumber.
Mr. Wurzelbacher said he was hired by Mr. Newell six years ago and that the possibility of him eventually buying the company was discussed during his job interview.
He said itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s his understanding he can work under Mr. NewellÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s license as long as the licensed contractor works on the same site.
Mr. Wurzelbacher said he is working on taking the Ohio plumbing contractorsÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ license test.
Mr. WulzerbacherÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s notoriety has raised the ire of Tom Joseph, business manager for Local 50 of the United Association of Plumbers, Steamfitters, and Service Mechanics, who claimed that Mr. Wulzerbacher didnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t undergo any apprenticeship training.
“When you have guys going out there with no training whatsoever, itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s a little disreputable to start with,” Mr. Joseph said. “WeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re the real Joe the Plumber.”
Mr. Joseph said Mr. Wulzerbacher could only legally work in the townships, but not in any municipality in Lucas County or elsewhere in the country.
“This individual has got no schooling, no licenses, heÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s never been to a training program, union or non-union, in the United States of America,” Mr. Joseph said.
The association has endorsed Barack Obama, according to Mr. Joseph.
Questions were raised Thursday morning whether Mr. Wurzelbacher is a registered voter.
Linda Howe, executive director of the Lucas County Board of Elections, said a Samuel Joseph Worzelbacher, whose address and age match Joe the PlumberÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s, registered in Lucas County on Sept. 10, 1992. He voted in his first primary on March 4 of this year, registering as a Republican.
Ms. Howe said that the name may be misspelled in the database.
Mr. Wurzelbacher, 34, acknowledged during an interview at his home late Thursday morning that he knows heÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s “a flash in the pan,” after his fame spread for an impromptu debate he had in front of his Springfield Township home with Mr. Obama last Sunday.
Mr. Wurzelbacher said he objects to Mr. ObamaÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s plans to raise income taxes on incomes above $250,000. He said he makes no where near that much money but he would not say how much he makes or if he ever expects to make $250,000. Court records from a divorce show Mr. Wurzelbacher made $40,000 in 2006.
He said, “Is it right to take someoneÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s money because they work a little harder? ItÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s taking away from someoneÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s hard work.”
Mr. Wurzelbacher said he disagrees with the idea of people being taxed at a higher rate because they earn more.
“TheyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re going to take more of your money because youÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve been more successful,” he said.
In January, 2007, the Ohio Department of Taxation placed a lien against him because $1,183 in personal property taxes had not been paid, but there has been no action in the case since it was filed.
Mr. Wurzelbacher was playing football in his front yard with his son, Joey, on Sunday afternoon when Mr. Obama made an unscheduled stop to go door to door greeting voters and asking for their support.
In his conversation with Mr. Wurzelbacher, Mr. Obama tried to justify his plan tax breaks to 95 percent of Americans and raise taxes on incomes above $250,000.
Mr. Obama said his plan would improve the economy for other people trying to get a start in small business, and “spread the wealth.”
The phrase was quickly picked up by conservative bloggers and commentators saying it reveals a desire to redistributed wealth on the part of Mr. Obama.
During that same conversation, Mr. Wurzelbacher advocated a flat tax to Mr. Obama under which everyone would pay the same rate of tax which was a feature of Mike HuckabeeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s unsuccessful campaign for the Republican nomination this year.
Mr. Wurzelbacher said he was surprised by the spread the wealth phrase.
“ThatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s a pretty socialist comment. Two-fifty ($250,000) is his number now. When is it going to be one fifty ($150,000), when itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s going to be one hundred ($100,000)?”
He continued: “If you believe him, I would be receiving his tax cut,” adding that he would not want the tax cut.
He wonÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t say who he will vote for on Nov. 4, but did say he likes Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.
He said he was born in the Toledo area, lived until he was 13 in the Florida Panhandle area, went to Springfield High School, and then entered the U.S. Air Force. He was stationed at an Air Force base in Alaska from 1992 until 1995. He said he was honorably discharged.
Mr. Wurzelbacher also said he lived in Arizona from 1997 until 2000.
‘Joe the Plumber’ is focus of presidential debate’s first few minutes
By BRIDGET THARP and MARK ZABORNEY
BLADE STAFF WRITERS
The story of “Joe the Plumber” - Joe Wurzelbacher of Shrewsbury Street in Springfield Township - became a centerpiece of the early minutes of the presidential debate last night.
And Joe the Plumber became the subject of national and international interest.
Mr. Wurzelbacher, 34, was more interested in taking in the debate than in assessing his place in presidential politics.
“Honestly, I’m a small part of it,” Mr. Wurzelbacher said. “They’re just using me as an example right now for the American public. I think they’re discussing more important is-sues.”
He excused himself so he could finish watching Barack Obama and John McCain debate.
But after the debate, Mr. Wurzelbacher expressed some embarrassment that he was now known across America as Joe the Plumber.
“There’s a lot more important issues than me, and I’m starting to feel a little uncomfortable with it,” he said. “Everyone’s more worried about what Joe the Plumber has to say than what Obama or McCain has to say.”
While watching the debate at home with his father, he was interrupted several times by calls from the national media including CNN, Fox News, and Good Morning America. In addition, CNBC, ABC News, the Wall Street Journal, the Houston Chronicle, and the BBC called The Blade in their quest to reach Joe the Plumber.
Mr. Wurzelbacher and Mr. Obama had something of a debate Sunday as the candidate walked house to house on Shrewsbury at the start of the candidate’s four-day visit in the Toledo area.
He told Mr. Obama that he was trying to buy a plumbing business.
“I’m being taxed more and more for fulfilling the American dream,” Mr. Wurzelbacher said Sunday.
Mr. Obama said, in part, “It’s not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody that is behind you, that they have a chance for success, too.
“I think that when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”
The exchange was caught on videotape and was broadcast on a variety of news outlets and put on numerous Web sites, including YouTube.
It was the “spread the wealth around” comment that caught the attention of conservative commentators, including Rush Limbaugh, and in discussions on the Internet. Mr. Wurzelbacher was a guest of Fox News’ Neil Cavuto on Tuesday.
During the debate, Mr. McCain challenged Mr. Obama: “Joe wants to buy the business that he has been in for all of these years, worked 10, 12 hours a day. And he wanted to buy the business, but he looked at your tax plan and he saw that he was going to pay much higher taxes.”
“You were going to put him in a higher tax bracket which was going to increase his taxes, which was going to cause him not to be able to employ people, which Joe was trying to realize the American dream,” Mr. McCain said.
Mr. McCain then looked directly into the television camera and said: “Joe, I want to tell you, I’ll not only help you buy that business that you worked your whole life for and I’ll keep your taxes low and I’ll provide available and affordable health care for you and your employees. And I will not stand for a tax increase on small-business income.”
Mr. Obama denied that was true.
“Not only do 98 percent of small businesses make less than $250,000, but I also want to give them additional tax breaks because they are the drivers of the economy,” Mr. Obama said. “They produce the most jobs.”
Mr. Wurzelbacher came up again when the debate turned to a discussion of health-care policies.
Mr. McCain charged that Mr. Obama’s plan would fine the company Mr. Wurzelbacher wanted to buy; Mr. Obama said small businesses were exempt.
“Hey Joe, you’re rich. Congratulations,” Mr. McCain said mockingly.
Mr. Obama didn’t win Mr. Wurzelbacher’s support on Sunday, and he didn’t change his mind last night.
He did allow, “Obama, you can’t take away that he’s a damn good speaker.”
Overall, though, Mr. Wurzelbacher was pleased with Mr. McCain’s performance.
“McCain was doing much better this time,” he said. “McCain came across with some solid points. I like his tax cuts.”
But he said Mr. Obama’s health-care plan scares him.
“It’s just one step closer to socialism,” he said.
He said he hopes both candidates will talk about family and family values before the November election because he believes problems such as education and senior health care should come back to families taking care of each other. “Sense of family has to be brought back,” Mr. Wurzelbacher said.
He added: “I believe there was too much emphasis put on me. The debate was more important.”
But not to worry … As usual, that dastardly Rush Limbaugh sums it up:
Democrats Attack Joe the Plumber
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RUSH: So the Obama campaign and the Democrats now start attacking Joe the Plumber. It’s amazing how Joe the Plumber has them flummoxed. They’re treating Joe the Plumber almost liked the treated Sarah Palin when she first came out. As a curiosity, do you realize this is important, ladies and gentlemen. They looked at Palin, said, “Who is this woman? She shoots; she hunts; she takes care of her own kids.” And they’re looking at Joe, “Who is this guy? Who’s this Joe the Plumber guy? What do you mean, some guy who is a blue-collar guy who is a plumber, and he’s not going to vote for Obama? Who is this guy? Who are these people who live out here in Ohio? What do you mean he wants to start a business now, who is this guy? We can’t understand this guy, this Joe the Plumber.” What the press can’t get through their heads is that America is Joe the Plumber. Sarah Palin is America. Anne Kornblut, Katie Couric, sadly, Fred Barnes and Bill Kristol, the Fox All-Stars, they’re not America. They have become elites.
You don’t know how hard this is for me to say, folks. Roger Ailes is one of my closest friends and he has been since 1990, and he is the chairman, chief executive officer of the Fox News Channel, I saw him this weekend, spent a lot of social time with him. It is really hard for me to tell you what I really think about what the Fox All-Stars reaction to this debate was last night. I know they’re not under any obligation to carry an agenda. They’re not under any obligation. They didn’t see it. They didn’t see what everybody else who watched this debate saw, even other people in the media, they didn’t see it. And these are the people that put us down; these are the people making fun of us for not wanting McCain; these are the people we thought McCain was the only guy who can win, McCain can reach across the aisle, independents, Democrats, McCain is the guy that can do it with honor, great story, and now they’re saying fire the campaign, McCain’s horrible, can’t do well in a debate. My gosh. Your head swims trying to keep up with them.
The Kornbluts and the Katie Courics, they try to make it out like Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber are interlopers. It’s the press, it’s the Drive-By Media, the elites that are the interlopers. They are the minority; they are the freak show class. There’s nothing freak show about Sarah Palin. There’s nothing freak show about Joe the Plumber. The freak show is the elites in Washington and New York that are in the media and out of the media. The Fox All-Stars have become elites, too, and you’ve got Jack Murtha. How in the world do the Democrats come close to winning this? Jack Murtha says that his part of Pennsylvania is definitely racist, a Democrat who impugned and maligned all of our great, brave Marines in Haditha and others of the US fighting force in Iraq. Oh, yeah, where I live, western Pennsylvania, yeah, very racist, gonna cost Obama four points at least, but he’s still gonna win. His own state he’s calling racist, western Pennsylvania. He’s going to get reelected, probably. Who knows. Hope not. It’s just amazing. I’m telling you, folks, there have to be a lot more Joe the Plumbers and Josephine the Plumbers and Sarah Palin types all over this country than you know or that the Drive-By Media knows or that Washington-New York elites know. If they weren’t out there doing what they’re doing and being who they are, our economy would have tanked years ago.
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RUSH: In a further effort to discredit Joe the Plumber, CBS’ Maggie Rodriguez today said he’s nothing but a Republican pawn. Republican pawn? He spoke to Obama when Obama was going door-to-door! As though Democrats don’t have pawns. Joe the Plumber also (they’re going after him here on this, too) says he doesn’t have a license, and says he doesn’t need one because he works for somebody else. He wants to buy out the guy he works for down the road. He doesn’t have a plan for it. Joe the Plumber is 34, and he’s working on it. He and his boss had talked about a plan eventually where he would take over, but he doesn’t have a plan in place. He does not earn $250,000. He wants to buy the company, he wants to grow it, and then he will get his license.
Well, the plumbers union, the Democrat union thugs are now going after Joe the Plumber. This is from the website Radar Online: “It remains to be seen whether John McCain’s blue-collar hero, Ohio’s Joe the Plumber, is a Republican plant or not. (One thing he is definitely not: a licensed plumber.)” This is what they’re focusing on. I mentioned this to you about 20 minutes ago. “Either way, though, he’s succeeded in raising the ire of a lot of his plumbing brethren, particularly those in the United Association of the Plumbing and Pipe Fitting Industry!” This is not to be confused with the pig iron workers.
“The UA was the ‘first international Union to endorse Senator Barack Obama for President of the United States,’ having thrown their support behind Illinoisan way back in January. Radar called them up to see how they felt about a man so inextricably linked to the world of pipes suddenly becoming a campaign talking point. ‘You know, hopefully Joe put in his time as an apprentice and a journeyman, so he can appreciate what it’s like to be a working person,’ a spokesperson told us. ‘Now that he has succeeded and has the chance to become a contractor and a business owner, he should really be supportive of Senator Obama’s tax plan, which will benefit the working-class people who really need it.’” I don’t know who this spokesman is, but this spokesman is just dumb. I don’t think people understand what Obama’s tax plan is. Look, folks, there’s just a certain degree of ignorance that we’re going to have to deal with, and it’s rampant out there, and I tell you it is the most expensive commodity we face in this country, is pure ignorance. Not partisanship, and not ideologues, pure ignorance, 100% ignorance, the most expensive thing we have.
Me: Who’s next?