New Hampshire Fires First Shot Of Civil War – Resolution Immediately Voids Several Federal Laws, Threatens Counterstrike Against Federal “Breach Of Peace”

February 4th, 2009 (217) Posted By .

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The Betrayal:

The New Hampshire state legislature took an unbelievably bold step Monday by introducing a resolution to declare certain actions by the federal government to completely totally void and warning that certain future acts will be viewed as a “breach of peace” with the states themselves that risks “nullifying the Constitution.”

This act by New Hampshire is a clear warning to the federal government that they could face being stripped of their power by the States (presumably through civil war!

The remarkable document outlines with perfect clarity, some basics long forgotten. For instance, it reminds Congress “That the Constitution of the United States, having delegated to Congress a power to punish treason, counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States, piracies, and felonies committed on the high seas, and offences against the law of nations, slavery, and no other crimes whatsoever;. . . . . therefore all acts of Congress which assume to create, define, or punish crimes, other than those so enumerated in the Constitution are altogether void, and of no force;”

Federal gun crime laws? Void. Federal drug crime laws? Void. The gazzillion other federal criminal laws that deal with anything other than the specific enumerated crimes? ALL VOID.

One would think that if any lawyer anywhere in the entire country was worth his salt, all federal criminal trials would have ended years ago. This seems to prove that most lawyers are dullards.

New Hampshire deals a complete death blow to the pending federal hate crimes legislation by pointing out “That, therefore, all acts of Congress of the United States which do abridge the freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, are not law, but are altogether void, and of no force; . . . . .”

Later in the Resolution, New Hampshire makes clear what the feds are now risking if they proceed further: The removal of all powers from the federal government by the States!

Quoting directly from the Resolution: “That any Act by the Congress of the United States, Executive Order of the President of the United States of America or Judicial Order by the Judicatories of the United States of America which assumes a power not delegated to the government of United States of America by the Constitution for the United States of America and which serves to diminish the liberty of the any of the several States or their citizens shall constitute a nullification of the Constitution for the United States of America by the government of the United States of America. Acts which would cause such a nullification include, but are not limited to:
I. Establishing martial law or a state of emergency within one of the States comprising the United States of America without the consent of the legislature of that State.

II. Requiring involuntary servitude, or governmental service other than a draft during a declared war, or pursuant to, or as an alternative to, incarceration after due process of law.

III. Requiring involuntary servitude or governmental service of persons under the age of 18 other than pursuant to, or as an alternative to, incarceration after due process of law.

IV. Surrendering any power delegated or not delegated to any corporation or foreign government.

V. Any act regarding religion; further limitations on freedom of political speech; or further limitations on freedom of the press.

VI. Further infringements on the right to keep and bear arms including prohibitions of type or quantity of arms or ammunition; and

That should any such act of Congress become law or Executive Order or Judicial Order be put into force, all powers previously delegated to the United States of America by the Constitution for the United States shall revert to the several States individually.”

I have reported on this blog for quite some time that we here in the United States are heading toward Civil War. Many of you told me I was a nut for thinking that.

The simple fact is that we are long overdue for another Rebellion in this nation and I heartily endorse the idea of having one again very soon; preferably starting THIS year!

We must stop our federal government dead in its tracks because it is out of control and very dangerous. If stopping them means attacking them and destroying them by force, then so be it.

The full New Hampshire resolution is printed below, or you can to the Government’s website and read it there.

HCR 6 – AS INTRODUCED

2009 SESSION

09-0274

09/01

HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION 6

A RESOLUTION affirming States’ rights based on Jeffersonian principles.

SPONSORS: Rep. Itse, Rock 9; Rep. Ingbretson, Graf 5; Rep. Comerford, Rock 9; Sen. Denley, Dist 3

COMMITTEE: State-Federal Relations and Veterans Affairs

ANALYSIS

This house concurrent resolution affirms States’ rights based on Jeffersonian principles.

09-0274

09/01

STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE

In the Year of Our Lord Two Thousand Nine

A RESOLUTION affirming States’ rights based on Jeffersonian principles.

Whereas the Constitution of the State of New Hampshire, Part 1, Article 7 declares that the people of this State have the sole and exclusive right of governing themselves as a free, sovereign, and independent State; and do, and forever hereafter shall, exercise and enjoy every power, jurisdiction, and right, pertaining thereto, which is not, or may not hereafter be, by them expressly delegated to the United States of America in congress assembled; and

Whereas the Constitution of the State of New Hampshire, Part 2, Article 1 declares that the people inhabiting the territory formerly called the province of New Hampshire, do hereby solemnly and mutually agree with each other, to form themselves into a free, sovereign and independent body-politic, or State, by the name of The State of New Hampshire; and

Whereas the State of New Hampshire when ratifying the Constitution for the United States of America recommended as a change, “First That it be Explicitly declared that all Powers not expressly & particularly Delegated by the aforesaid are reserved to the several States to be, by them Exercised;” and

Whereas the other States that included recommendations, to wit Massachusetts, New York, North Carolina, Rhode Island and Virginia, included an identical or similar recommended change; and

Whereas these recommended changes were incorporated as the ninth amendment, the enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people, and the tenth amendment, the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people, to the Constitution for the United States of America; now, therefore, be it

Resolved by the House of Representatives, the Senate concurring:

That the several States composing the United States of America, are not united on the principle of unlimited submission to their General Government; but that, by a compact under the style and title of a Constitution for the United States, and of amendments thereto, they constituted a General Government for special purposes, — delegated to that government certain definite powers, reserving, each State to itself, the residuary mass of right to their own self-government; and that whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force; that to this compact each State acceded as a State, and is an integral party, its co-States forming, as to itself, the other party: that the government created by this compact was not made the exclusive or final judge of the extent of the powers delegated to itself; since that would have made its discretion, and not the Constitution, the measure of its powers; but that, as in all other cases of compact among powers having no common judge, each party has an equal right to judge for itself, as well of infractions as of the mode and measure of redress; and

That the Constitution of the United States, having delegated to Congress a power to punish treason, counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States, piracies, and felonies committed on the high seas, and offences against the law of nations, slavery, and no other crimes whatsoever; and it being true as a general principle, and one of the amendments to the Constitution having also declared, that “the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people,” therefore all acts of Congress which assume to create, define, or punish crimes, other than those so enumerated in the Constitution are altogether void, and of no force; and that the power to create, define, and punish such other crimes is reserved, and, of right, appertains solely and exclusively to the respective States, each within its own territory; and

That it is true as a general principle, and is also expressly declared by one of the amendments to the Constitution, that “the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people;” and that no power over the freedom of religion, freedom of speech, or freedom of the press being delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, all lawful powers respecting the same did of right remain, and were reserved to the States or the people: that thus was manifested their determination to retain to themselves the right of judging how far the licentiousness of speech and of the press may be abridged without lessening their useful freedom, and how far those abuses which cannot be separated from their use should be tolerated, rather than the use be destroyed. And thus also they guarded against all abridgment by the United States of the freedom of religious opinions and exercises, and retained to themselves the right of protecting the same. And that in addition to this general principle and express declaration, another and more special provision has been made by one of the amendments to the Constitution, which expressly declares, that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press:” thereby guarding in the same sentence, and under the same words, the freedom of religion, of speech, and of the press: insomuch, that whatever violated either, throws down the sanctuary which covers the others, and that libels, falsehood, and defamation, equally with heresy and false religion, are withheld from the cognizance of federal tribunals. That, therefore, all acts of Congress of the United States which do abridge the freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, are not law, but are altogether void, and of no force; and

That the construction applied by the General Government (as is evidenced by sundry of their proceedings) to those parts of the Constitution of the United States which delegate to Congress a power “to lay and collect taxes, duties, imports, and excises, to pay the debts, and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States,” and “to make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the powers vested by the Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof,” goes to the destruction of all limits prescribed to their power by the Constitution: that words meant by the instrument to be subsidiary only to the execution of limited powers, ought not to be so construed as themselves to give unlimited powers, nor a part to be so taken as to destroy the whole residue of that instrument: that the proceedings of the General Government under color of these articles, will be a fit and necessary subject of revisal and correction; and

That a committee of conference and correspondence be appointed, which shall have as its charge to communicate the preceding resolutions to the Legislatures of the several States; to assure them that this State continues in the same esteem of their friendship and union which it has manifested from that moment at which a common danger first suggested a common union: that it considers union, for specified national purposes, and particularly to those specified in their federal compact, to be friendly to the peace, happiness and prosperity of all the States: that faithful to that compact, according to the plain intent and meaning in which it was understood and acceded to by the several parties, it is sincerely anxious for its preservation: that it does also believe, that to take from the States all the powers of self-government and transfer them to a general and consolidated government, without regard to the special delegations and reservations solemnly agreed to in that compact, is not for the peace, happiness or prosperity of these States; and that therefore this State is determined, as it doubts not its co-States are, to submit to undelegated, and consequently unlimited powers in no man, or body of men on earth: that in cases of an abuse of the delegated powers, the members of the General Government, being chosen by the people, a change by the people would be the constitutional remedy; but, where powers are assumed which have not been delegated, a nullification of the act is the rightful remedy: that every State has a natural right in cases not within the compact, (casus non foederis), to nullify of their own authority all assumptions of power by others within their limits: that without this right, they would be under the dominion, absolute and unlimited, of whosoever might exercise this right of judgment for them: that nevertheless, this State, from motives of regard and respect for its co-States, has wished to communicate with them on the subject: that with them alone it is proper to communicate, they alone being parties to the compact, and solely authorized to judge in the last resort of the powers exercised under it, Congress being not a party, but merely the creature of the compact, and subject as to its assumptions of power to the final judgment of those by whom, and for whose use itself and its powers were all created and modified: that if the acts before specified should stand, these conclusions would flow from them: that it would be a dangerous delusion were a confidence in the men of our choice to silence our fears for the safety of our rights: that confidence is everywhere the parent of despotism — free government is founded in jealousy, and not in confidence; it is jealousy and not confidence which prescribes limited constitutions, to bind down those whom we are obliged to trust with power: that our Constitution has accordingly fixed the limits to which, and no further, our confidence may go. In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution. That this State does therefore call on its co-States for an expression of their sentiments on acts not authorized by the federal compact. And it doubts not that their sense will be so announced as to prove their attachment unaltered to limited government, whether general or particular. And that the rights and liberties of their co-States will be exposed to no dangers by remaining embarked in a common bottom with their own. That they will concur with this State in considering acts as so palpably against the Constitution as to amount to an undisguised declaration that that compact is not meant to be the measure of the powers of the General Government, but that it will proceed in the exercise over these States, of all powers whatsoever: that they will view this as seizing the rights of the States, and consolidating them in the hands of the General Government, with a power assumed to bind the States, not merely as the cases made federal, (casus foederis,) but in all cases whatsoever, by laws made, not with their consent, but by others against their consent: that this would be to surrender the form of government we have chosen, and live under one deriving its powers from its own will, and not from our authority; and that the co-States, recurring to their natural right in cases not made federal, will concur in declaring these acts void, and of no force, and will each take measures of its own for providing that neither these acts, nor any others of the General Government not plainly and intentionally authorized by the Constitution, shall be exercised within their respective territories; and

That the said committee be authorized to communicate by writing or personal conferences, at any times or places whatever, with any person or person who may be appointed by any one or more co-States to correspond or confer with them; and that they lay their proceedings before the next session of the General Court; and

That any Act by the Congress of the United States, Executive Order of the President of the United States of America or Judicial Order by the Judicatories of the United States of America which assumes a power not delegated to the government of United States of America by the Constitution for the United States of America and which serves to diminish the liberty of the any of the several States or their citizens shall constitute a nullification of the Constitution for the United States of America by the government of the United States of America. Acts which would cause such a nullification include, but are not limited to:

I. Establishing martial law or a state of emergency within one of the States comprising the United States of America without the consent of the legislature of that State.

II. Requiring involuntary servitude, or governmental service other than a draft during a declared war, or pursuant to, or as an alternative to, incarceration after due process of law.

III. Requiring involuntary servitude or governmental service of persons under the age of 18 other than pursuant to, or as an alternative to, incarceration after due process of law.

IV. Surrendering any power delegated or not delegated to any corporation or foreign government.

V. Any act regarding religion; further limitations on freedom of political speech; or further limitations on freedom of the press.

VI. Further infringements on the right to keep and bear arms including prohibitions of type or quantity of arms or ammunition; and

That should any such act of Congress become law or Executive Order or Judicial Order be put into force, all powers previously delegated to the United States of America by the Constitution for the United States shall revert to the several States individually. Any future government of the United States of America shall require ratification of three quarters of the States seeking to form a government of the United States of America and shall not be binding upon any State not seeking to form such a government; and

That copies of this resolution be transmitted by the house clerk to the President of the United States, each member of the United States Congress, and the presiding officers of each State’s legislature.



  • Dan (san diego)

    holy crap…..

  • David Ross

    Pat, I’m all for states rights over Fed gov’t rights but we might not want to shout that too loud. Especially in those whacko northern states where they have no problem passing bills those state’s cities and townships that proclaim President George W. Bush is a criminal who committed war crimes and state that he will be arrested on sight. After all those local whackos are only a stones throw away from their capital.

  • Atilla Kahuna

    Quick quiz:

    What is the state motto of New Hampshire?

    “Live Free or Die”

    Now THAT is what I call living by what you say!

    Here’s to some state legislators that actually have a pair: :beer:

  • Z

    ^^^ best state motto in the world. should be the motto of the federal government as well.

  • PatriotofPast(Thomas)

    “Live Free or Die”… My thoughts exactly!
    I think I will copy this resolution and send it to MY state Rep. and have him submit it for a vote of Solidarity…
    EVERYONE should… Remind the Assholes in DC who REALLY RUNS THE SHOW. :gun:

  • Steve in NC

    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the GADSDEN flag, and begin to slit throats!

    -Steve in NC w/ tip o’ hat to H. L. Mencken

  • Screaming Infidel

    Texas needs to go next! :gun:

  • http://www.lundyisleofavalon.co.uk/templars/templarcover1.jpg kurt(the infidel) Fatwa Expired

    this should not be shocking but it kinda is. i read the whole thing and all they are doing is reaffirming their rights as a state with regards to the constitution. its stunning to see this coming from a state. its the way it should be and i wish all states would endorse this. especially right now i think our federal government needs to know its place

  • Tom Wales, WI

    Live free or die…We all should have this as our own motto!!!

  • CPLViper

    It is about freakin’ time a state government tells the federal government to tread lightly.

    Being in NJ, I highly doubt that my state would echo this bill, although, NH is not exactly a red state either.

    I congradulate the representatives that authored this resolution. Now I will wait to see if it is ratified.

  • Jerb

    Wow. Didn’t know the state legislature here in Blue Hampshire had the stones for something like this. Bring on the Revolution.

  • http://mailboxawnings.com Marka in the Keys

    Be still my heart; however, Key West declared its own independent Conch Republic and nothing came of it except a cool flag and parties. Seriously, this sounds serious and if there is action to follow, I welcome the rebellion.

  • Steve in NC

    Marka, does the Conch Republic have borders? I thought it was to be a state of mind, not necessarily defined
    geographical location. Wait, I gotta go! The shrimp has come to a boil…

  • CGadsden

    :arrow: Pat
    NEVER thought you were a nut, been thinking the same thing for a couple of years now…hell, look at my chosen handle for this website. In regards to this posting: I’m moving to New Hampshire. Fuck yeah! I thought Texas would have taken the lead on this instead of one of the deep blue Commie NE states. Well, the War of Independence started in the NE, it might as well again. Hopefully this thing passes. Go get ‘em, NH!

  • Z

    we should also hoist up the Culpepper Minuteman flag up as our fighting motto…DONT TREAD ON ME….next to LIVE FREE OR DIE…

  • CPLViper

    Ok … sent a message to the only Republican politian in NJ that I know of. I requested that he endorse NH’s resolution and craft a NJ version. Let’s see if anything comes out of it (I reserve the right not to hold my breath while waiting).

  • Buck Hoff

    Hmmmmmm….I’m confused on this one. Are they standing up to the feds out of loyalty to the constitution? Or are they taking the first step of implementing their liberal utopian policies? :neutral:

  • BradW (the Infidel)

    I don’t welcome any bloodshed, but I do welcome the elected officials who are starting to get it.

    Now, can we get Ohio, Pennsylvania, Kentucky, the carolinas, Florida, TExas and a few others to sign on to this?

  • WestCoastGirl

    LIVE FREE OR DIE!!!! Unfortunately I’m living in Florida now, the state that has a representative sponsoring the bill to build more FEMA camps. In the last week I’ve vacuum sealed lots of food, canned 40lbs of chicken, 25 lbs. of ground beef, and have bottled butter. DH has a new glock, buying more ammo for my mini 14 and he wants me to get a glock with a suppressor. I think I want a tactical shotgun next.

  • Sliver

    I’m all in favor of some type of civil unrest/revolution because the government is definetly getting out of control, the voting process is so corrupt it reminds me of a third world country. We have wacko organizations dictating policy to the government inhabitants ie The Sierra club, Greenpeace and so on. I have some info of an upcoming event next spring about a million man gun owner march on Washington and if that happens I will be there. :gun:

  • Storm 0311

    nicely written resolution.

    However very few politicians are resolute.

    Yes we should hammer our local governments to adopt this.

  • aboutTObegin

    LIVE FREE OR DIE!!!!!

    Texas will follow as well as several other states! I hope the democraps wake up because it will be them that tear this country apart…oh wait….that was their agenda all along!

  • David Ross

    Buck Hoff, my sentiments exactly! :beer:

  • March

    I

    Love

    This…

  • solomonpal

    :arrow: WestCoastGirl

    How do you bottle butter and what’s the shelf life?

  • March

    :arrow: David Ross

    Who cares? Let’em have it.

    If they’re right it means nothing the Feds ever did in the way of social engineering is valid.

    NOW I’M OWED REPARATIONS!!!

    WHERE’S MY REFUND!!!

  • Tom in CO

    Don’t Tread on New Jersey!

  • Jerry

    Picking up on my idea of a Northern Free Territory. Now to link up across the Midwest through the Dakotas, Montana, and Idaho!

  • TedB

    I’ll get excited if the NH legislature passes it. Until then I will reserve judgement.

  • Kermit

    That was the entire problem with The Civil War. The Feds had overstepped their boundary and almost killed the constitution and states rights by invaded the South. The South really did not want to leave permanently only to have it rights. Slavery was just the issue that the North used.

  • Political.fish

    This is exactly the type of action I refer to when I stated that I am prepared for armed resistance under the act of a valid authority. It is well past time for each of the several states to shout the same clarion, To Arms!!! I hope this resolution passes, and will be watching.

  • http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=t8Nf1MK7lts IP727

    THEY DON’T SHOW THIS SENTIMENT BY THEIR RECENT VOTING PATTERNS.NEW HAMPSHIRE HAS BECOME A BLUE STATE THAT ELECTS DEMONRATS.

  • Blane Burns

    New Hampshire! You have earned respect from a native Texan and descendant of a family line in America older than the U.S.A. I am proud of the East and the Blue Bellies for the first time in my life. We got your back…

  • GF

    What State rebellion? It is the Federal government that has led a tacit and sometimes explicit rebellion against State’s rights for many, many years.

    What we need is reform not revolution. The Federal government needs to know it’s place.

  • zeeman

    NH used to be a great state to live in, until all the Massholes moved up and highjack it!

  • Poe

    Is good stuff, where NH’ leads Maine will follow, Vermont too… Massachusetts and points south? Probably not. For as far as all of you that are readly for armed resistance, how many of you are in your local milita? How many of you have a assembled kit? How many of you go to drill and do the field exercises? (Which I might add are some interesting this time of year up here in Maine) If you want to be ready then get off your aft, spend some time and money and be ready… Cause if shit comes to pass you are going to regret not having done so, and if its all for not you will have gotten in some shape, learned some skills and made some friends.

    Oh for as far as “W” being held accountable for war crimes he should be. Pulling combatants taken under arms in open conflict (many of the Gitmo crew were) out of a foreign country and holding them without PoW status makes for a war crime, no matter how well you treat them.

    As “W” was the man at the top he is ultimately responsible for whoever came up with that abortion of a policy. Would have been far wiser to keep them in there country of origin, where the locals could ask them questions as hard as they wanted without reproach, and deny the world press one less thing to bitch about, particularly one that rings of validity.

  • SOC

    All I can say is it is about fucking time someone put the out of control politicins in Washington in their place. 535 people are dictating to 300 million as to how our money is spent(wasted actually) Texas needs to follow suit as well.
    and Fucking Hussein ought to pay attention. Isn’t it about time we have a look at all those documents, he has three groups of lawyers keeping from the American people. I hope that rat bastard is paying attention. He is the epitome of
    shuck, jive, and deception. He really does not know what he is doing. While we are at it, get rid of ACORN, CAIR, and the ACLU. Praise God…

  • http://www.lundyisleofavalon.co.uk/templars/templarcover1.jpg kurt(the infidel) Fatwa Expired

    Poe,

    you do not have to give combatants who fight with no uniform or represent no particular country POW status. they are not even protected under the Geneva Convention.

    i would happily change my mind on that if some evidence was presented. but until then ill keep believing that rights are reserved for actual armies. not Jihadis.

  • steve m (yet Another Infidel!)

    :arrow: Steve in NC – Margaritaville is the capitol.

    Wow, some folks grew a set up there! Stay tuned!

  • TBinSTL (just typical)

    NH used to believe in their own motto. Since the Massholes have turned it into a suburb of Boston, not so much. I wish these legislators luck and Godspeed.

  • Steven S. Hall

    Sounds like the discovery in the NH Constitution that Claremont came up with, showing that it was the State, not the Towns, that had the responsibility for educating the children.

    For all you folks from Tejas, just keep in mind that the NH Constitution also specifically enumerates The Right to Revolt. We in the Granite State will gladly display your “Come and Take It” flag. Our original action against the British predates the Revolution: the Dec 1774 attack on Ft. William & Mary to obtain military stores bought with New Hampshire’s own legislature’s money. We doled out the powder on Bunker Hill.

  • Fishman

    It is about time we showed those fighting abroad for our freedom that we are fighting for them on the mainland! Looking for my local militia…

  • CPLViper

    :arrow: Poe

    Sorry, but Kurt is 100% correct. You can hate the policy as much as you like but President Bush did not break the law.

  • Dan (san diego)

    I think Word needs to re-think the location of the bunker…….

  • Toe Tagger (Infidel in toto)

    The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
    Thomas Jefferson (1743 – 1826)

    Refreshment, anyone?

  • Steve in NC

    No Poe.

  • vivi libero o muori

    Zeeman, ur right, too many massholes have made their way into this great state of NH. Then they tell us how to live in our own state! no income tax, no sales tax, one of the finest highway systems in the country, and beautiful land as far as the eye can see (except for manchester)

  • NH

    Please write to the committee to support this bill.

    http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legislation/2009/HCR0006.html

    More info on how to watch all bills here:

    http://www.cnht.org/news/2009/02/02/restore-states-rights-hcr-6/

  • NH

    I was just reading more of your comments and I’m pleased to say there WILL be a second revolution in this country and Obama’s crimes will be the tipping point. It is coming soon…

    It is almost better that Obama was elected because McCain could pretend to want to preserve the republic while going along with the same agenda… meanwhile, Obama lets it all hang out and many more are becoming educated as to what that is all about.

  • Erik Wong

    Its like the best wet dream i’ve ever had has come true. >=D Lock and load mother fuckers! :gun:

  • WestCoastGirl

    :arrow: search bottled butter on any search engine except google and you’ll find a recipe…really easy and shelf life of a minimum 3 years

  • Atilla Kahuna

    Okay! :mrgreen:

    I sent the text of the resolution to both of my state representatives (both Republicans – one a RINO and one more of a Libertarian), so we’ll see what happens here in the Dairy State (or Cheesehead state) of Wisconsin!

    Kahuna

  • Hawkerdriver(Piss on the Koran)

    Untill Obamao come’s clean on the birth certificate,anything mandated by him or his henchmen are “null and void”. ALL states should ratify on this point alone.That should settle the b.c. issue if nothing else.

    This sparks hope!! :smile:

    Wolverines :!:

  • Evestay

    I dont agree with Poe either but what if the Taliban (as Afghanistan’s govt) declared Al-Qaeda to be their military before we toppled them? Would that count for having to treat them as POWs?

  • Lone Wolf

    :arrow: Poe

    Do some reading and get back to us:
    http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/wars/a/loac_2.htm

    Especially the part about ‘unlawful combatants’. Do you think that al Qaeda is a lawful governmental authority and that those men were found in uniform?

  • Mike Mose

    I said it before and I’ll say again, DC is out of control.
    Solution 1 million angry Patriots, with God’s graces, need to go to DC to clean out our houses.When we get to DC, Remember if it has a suit on and talks about spending our money………………….. Bottom line………… Freedom

  • http://mhartzler.blogspot.com/ Mary Ann

    Oh my gosh!!! I saw this on Dr. Orly Taitz’s blog and almost fell off my chair! :shock: Vive the great state of New Hampshire!!

    I hope that it’s okay that I copied it to my blog, as well. :lol:

  • Poe

    Kurt&Co.

    I am sure you are familiar with the famous four criteria found in
    Article 4 of the Third Geneva Convention concerning eligibility for
    POW status.

    The “Rumsfeld” argument is that they lack a “distinctive sign
    recognizable at a distance”. I figure the bandoleer on his chest full of AK mags is a pretty good indicator that he is not a sheep herder. Some say that is not enough, but the flag I wore on my sleeve was OD and black, blended right in with my fatigues and there was no way you could see it at a distance so are we pulling some double standard shit?

    Lawyers can argue legality all they want, I am just a grunt. But I
    have served abroad and been in the shit. As far as I am concerned when after a fire fight you surrender to me, your gun hits the deck and you get face down in the dirt you are my prisoner. If all these fuckers are telling me that we are at “War” with you than even a grunt can figure out that you are my “Prisoner of War”.

    If you had the balls to stand up and trade death with me than I figure I should at least man up and respect you for that; the fact that yours would not do the same for me notwithstanding. This “Unlawful Combatant” is some bullshit word made up by some bullshit suit who never held a rifle in his life or never came closer to the shit than CNN.

    “Men” look at another filthy blood covered “Man” before him, who just seconds before you were trying to kill and was trying to kill you and can tell, without a lawyer or some fancy words that he rates to be treated appropriately.

    If our leadership lacks the honor to do that then we should damm well distance ourselves from that shit and leave them in custody of the powers that be where we found them.

  • Political.fish

    Geneva Convention does not apply.

  • JI

    Huh, the smallest state in the union. Keep me posted.

  • bacongreasenapalm

    I will move to New Hampshire if the resolution passes. This is the first time I’ve heard an American politician truly defend the Constitution in years. KILL THE USURPERS!!

  • JI

    Actually I think Rhode Island is. No matter thats still showing a lot of balls.

  • Vanessa

    Thank G*d for the Live Free or Die State.
    Our Government is absolutley out of control.
    They are the Buzzards and we are their carcass.

    our Federal Government was to have very limited powers and look at the monster they are now.

    They are lord and ruler and totally corrupted by power and money.

  • Mike Mose

    How about Washington State joining the freedom March.

    Obama and the Democrats are in the process of destroying the republic.

    http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=3431

  • http://roadsassy.com/2009/02/04/resisting-obama-another-shot-heard-around-the-world/ Road Sassy » Blog Archive » Resisting Obama: Another Shot Heard Around the World

    [...] am reproducing this in full from Pat Dollard’s site. This action taken  by New Hampshire should be replicated across the nation. Every one  of us [...]

  • SassySuzEagle

    Civil War was really fought over States Rights, not freeing the slaves. I’m from Wisconsin and educated there, but I learned how to Read and Reason for Myself !
    Once this Federal Government commits any of the above mentioned infractions not permissible in the Constitution or Bill of Rights, We the People need to Abolish this Government and start anew with our Founding Document as our guide !

    We need to work on a Document, a Declaration of Abolition and not let New Hampshire stand alone.

  • aboutTObegin

    SOC,

    along with those organizations to get rid of, let me add a couple more….like BET, National Black Caucus, NAACP, and all of those the promote reverse racism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they are a bunch of fucking hypocrites! :mad:

  • Hardball1911(Revolutionary Constitutionalist)

    Poe, your mistakes in comment are many. When one is labeled an “Enemy Combatant” one is designated a PoW. If you knew anything about A.) The Geneva Convention, and B.) The UCMJ, you would surely understand that the definition of PoW includes all combatants who took up arms against a country’s military. Problem with that is, the general definition that is given only includes those who are in proper uniforms. Those who are not in proper uniforms are to be labeled as spies, which each country may treat in any manner they’d like. I would say that a stay in Gitmo was much better of an alternative to these “enemy combatants” than what we could have done legally to them, which is line them up on a wall and shoot them. Instead, we offer them the opportunity to defend themselves to a military tribunal, which is a much better proposition than they would have gotten under the former regimes in either of the countries we “snatched” them from. The “abortion” of an idea as you claim it to be was actually a humanitarian move to enable these individuals to trust that we weren’t lying when we said we didn’t want them to die, and that they didn’t have to die needlessly. The real abortion has been a mindset that it’s perfectly fine to protect you as long as it doesn’t put anybody in harms way.

    You come here and preach that people need to get off of their asses and train? Sorry, Poe, most of us have been doing so for years, we just don’t call it that. It has been made illegal in The United States, by a democrat congress, to train in military tactics unless you are in the military. It’s been that way for a long time now, where the fuck have you been? Why do you think that in 1994 Congress was taken by the Republican party? Because of a long train of abuses and usurpations… So you are encouraging people to train in military tactics? When is the last time you trained? Preaching to the choir? More than likely.

  • http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=t8Nf1MK7lts IP727

    NEW HAMPSHIRE HAS TURNED BLUE, AND THE DEMO GUV WILL APPOINT A DEM WHEN GREGG JUMPS SHIP AND JOINS THE ENEMY.

  • http://www.alicelillieandher.blogspot.com Alice Lillie

    Pretty good. I think the Free State Project is starting to pay off.

    BTW, I have heard that there is to be some kind of gathering there this summer (probably a Free State connected event). Maybe someone can give me some info, especially the date. I’m at .

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/Americanmanthefirst charlie

    also NEW HAMPSHIRE IS A LIBERAL STATE

  • Bob P (the south will rise again)

    That’s a long cool drink on a hot summer day.

    Any of you cheese heads near Lacrosse?

  • Tuna

    Is it just me or am I reading this wrong??????? If the federal government does any of those things listed,

    “and warning that certain future acts will be viewed as a “breach of peace” with the states themselves that risks “nullifying the Constitution.”

    So this would nullify the Constitution and not the government itself. Isn’t that what Obama wants, to nullify the Constitution!!!! That way they could write their own constitution without the State(the people’s) consent…….

  • Fred

    It’s about time!!

  • 31Mike

    :arrow: Pat….After reading WestCoastGirl’s comment in the Fema camp thread a few days ago, i was hoping you would run it.

    I’ve emailed the shit out of this to quite a few and also emailed my state legislators here in Va.

    Hell yea New Hampshire!!!!….it’s time to shake some shit up. What’s the worst that can happen to this country? Tank the economy? Run the deficit so far in the fucking hole it’ll never see daylight?

    This country is royally fucked right now, and everyone in DC knows it but are pretending like they’ve got the solution, but when they go home at night they’re thinking about how they’re gonna bullshit their way through another day.

    These fucking Morons in Washington have got to be made to listen to the people. :gun:

  • T-Bagg (Guam)

    Fucking right doggy. My home state is not lost. I knew it wasn’t.
    “Live free or die, death is not the worst of evils.”
    -General John Stark

  • WestCoastGirl

    It’s catching on!!!
    Across the United States, it seems that States are suddenly intent on declaring their Sovereignty to the Federal Government. Specifically citing the 10th Amendment of our beloved Constitution, reminding our central government where the real power lies, and of the fact that the Federal Government’s power is derived from the will of the States (and of the People) and even going as far as to state (in some cases) that the United States Government has been trampling our Constitution by acting outside of its enumerated powers specified in our founding document. The links below go to each State’s recently-introduced actual piece of legislation.
    New Hampshire
    Washington
    Arizona
    Montana
    Michigan
    Missouri
    Oklahoma
    Go to http://www.thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/ for the links to the above states bills

  • Dan (The Infidel)

    The great lie that has been pushed by the leftist media is that NH has turned blue. I mentioned this once before that there is a large red cadre of people in NH, that have other ideas.

    It was Virginians that largely led the revolution. If NH wants to lead the second revolution, that’s fine with me.

    There’s no better constitutional principal than “Live free or die”.

    We have no King but King Jesus. :gun: :gun:

  • aboutTObegin

    TUNA, I think you are right partially, but if they declare their Sovereignty to the Federal Government, then there wont be a Federal Government…..and they wont be able to write a new constitution because those swinging dicks will all be out of jobs unless something drastic happens like martial law or some crazy shit….I am relieved and both skeptical like you at the same time….so I hold onto my guns and freedom until it returns to our original founding fathers intent! :mad: :gun: :beer:

  • http://www.myspace.com/frankensubie brotherscoobs

    holy crap i may have to move back there !

  • http://www.myspace.com/frankensubie brotherscoobs

    “NH used to be a great state to live in, until all the Massholes moved up and highjack it!”
    it still is once you get north of the bedroom towns on the mass border !

  • http://bb.bbboy.net/themainepatriotboard Poe

    “PoW includes all combatants who took up arms against a country’s military.” –HB

    Guess we agree just fine. Oh, and the rules for shooting someone out of uniform for espionage clearly state “when in the act of espionage”. Hiding behind a rock and taking pop shots at you with an AK or flinging RPG’s at a convoy is not an act of espionage, that would be acting like a “combatant”. Before claiming that I know nothing of things it would behoove you to at least gain a working knowledge of them.

    “It has been made illegal in The United States, by a democrat congress, to train in military tactics unless you are in the military. It’s been that way for a long time now, where the fuck have you been?” -HB

    I Guess the Boy Scouts are in deep shit right along with us, as is every combat ranch and survival school from coast to coast. All kidding aside the feds make it a pain to get some of the tools you need to train, “simunition” carries the same legality as white phosphorus for some reason, but it is not “illegal” to train by any stretch. For as far as training I was in on a winter movement in January, all the gear snowshoes and 21 degrees out, I actually had a lot of fun, I do a lot of ice fishing anyway, some others, not so much…

  • http://osmoothie.com/2009/02/05/new-hampshire-re-affirms-its-states-rights-based-on-jeffersonian-principles-reminds-us-that-states-have-the-right-to-nullify-over-reaching-federal-government/ New Hampshire re-affirms its state’s rights based on Jeffersonian principles, reminds us that States have the right to nullify over-reaching Federal Government at osmoothie

    [...] Pat Dollard, “New Hampshire Resolution Immediately Voids Several Federal Laws, Threatens Counterstrike Against Fed…” [...]

  • James Cagle

    It is time our Governement stops selling our country down the tubes to civil war and send the left wing liberals to France where they belong with their Social Programs:
    Wake Up America : Do it the old fashioned way:
    Work for it!
    Fight to keep it!

  • FRANK-O

    :arrow: Hardball

    When I grow up, I want to be just like you.

  • CarolinaPatriot

    Very interesting….I will pass this on to some of the local State legislators for their consideration. We kicked Cornwallis’ butt and sent him packing….no reason we can’t stir it up with our brothers from the Granite State and defeat another arrogant would-be dictator…sadly our very own political ruling class! And don’t forget about the Tenth Amendment….all powers not specifically delegated to the federal government shall be reserved to the STATES!

  • Kirk

    :arrow: Poe
    :arrow: Hardball1911(Revolutionary Constitutionalist)
    I always appreciate comments from both of you, and usually come away, either having learned something, or given thought to something, that maybe I should have paid a little more attention too. We may not always agree on every little thing, but on the bottom line, it’s apparent we do agree, and we all may need each other down the road. Thanks, and hopefully we all can get together one of these days for a BBQ. :beer:

  • http://sskotb.blogspot.com/ Steve Savage “King of the Beasts”

    The unfortunate truth is that this resolution is going nowhere. It is nothing more than a spitting into the wind. Without acknowledgment of its existence by those to whom it is directed, it will wither and die. It is brave talk, but brave talk does not a brave man make. It takes the willingness back it up with a damned good punch in the snoot.

    Steve Savage “King of the Beasts”
    http://sskotb.blogspot.com/

  • Vanessa

    Steve Savage “King of the Beasts”
    ————–

    That may be but they are not the only state and as I see it, people are paying attention and it begins by putting some effort into writing this out.
    People can realize that they are not alone in their thoughts that we are on the wrong path and it encourages others to stand up.

  • Hardball1911(Revolutionary Constitutionalist)

    Poe,

    I can tell you from experience, they are not combat training. :)

    They may be training in “tactics” which is entirely different.

    Combat training has been made illegal. Trust me when I say this. I can not train fellow gun guys to act as a military entity. The “Combat Ranches” such as Gunsite, etc. simply train for tactical responses to “realistic” scenarios, such as someone invading your home.

    If I were to assemble 2000 people and train them as a battalion of non-federal military, assign ranks, etc. I would be committing a federal felony.

    I have had the BATF and FBI at a location where I give firearms training courses, which is a “Combat Ranch” so to speak. I have had them cite the federal laws regarding what I can and can not teach, what I can and can not call training, etc. My entire curriculum was dismantled and gone through by these two schmucks until it was a watered down NRA bullseye competition. I have since brought it back up to at least a competition shooting course and can back that up with USPSA/IPSC rules and club affiliation, as well as IDPA (not my favorite due to the mall ninja crowd it attracts). To give you some of my background, I am an NRA certified instructor, have attended and certified at FLETC, am certified by the state of Florida to provide concealed carry courses, and have several other certifications involving firearms training.

    The Michigan Militia was one of the first to test the laws by bringing suit against the federal laws, and they only half won. They are not allowed to organize training scenarios, but they can meet as a militia, lots of good that does, eh? This is, of course, according the the same BATF and FBI agents that visited me. Gimme a day or so and I will find the federal statutes. In my opinion they are unconstitutional and should be challenged full fledged, but hey, I ain’t got that type of coin.

    As for “claiming you know nothing”, you are again mistaken. I didn’t say that in my post, I said you had made mistakes. Which was true. The guys taking pot shots at you that aren’t in uniform can, by the Geneva Convention, be considered spies, or irregular combatants, which are treated as spies, and do NOT have to be active in espionage. This according to my ANOC instruction covering the Geneva Convention, as well as what was reiterated to us during our build up for Operation Desert Shield/Desert Storm in the anticipation of meeting irregulars during the conflict. Now, unless I had a Btn. Commander that chose to read and interpret the specific articles in an illegal manner, I would assume what I was taught to be correct. I have read, and studied, and read again, the articles of the Geneva Convention. After all, it was my business for a good portion of my life.

    Alas, if you know of any Boy Scout troops that are training with rifles and learning infantry unit tactics, let me fuckin know where they are, my boys could use a bit of that. I have been a troop leader for the last eight years, and have yet to find one. I have an Eagle Scout as a son, and another who is one project away. The BSA teaches individual responsibility as well as teamwork oriented initiative. I suppose, in a stretch, that could be considered military training, but typically military training requires firearms, ruck sacks, and combat tactics. None of which I am currently allowed to introduce to my Boy Scout troop per the BSA charter.

    Now, back to you and me interacting. If you read into what I said as a personal attack, you should not have. I pointed out that you made mistakes. That is all. It seems that you take what you say a bit too personally at times, and you come here pushing the opinion, that you have, that certain people were “idiots” or their policies were “abortions”, etc. and expect others not to react. Sorry, not gonna happen in this lifetime. I don’t know how old you are, and I personally don’t care, but I have watched Presidents come and go since Ford. I have studied history of war for a very long time, as I said before it was my profession. Now while I did not agree with everything that President Bush did, I can tell you that the treatment that these “enemy combatants” received was as civil as possible given the circumstances, and highly appropriate considering those that were recently released heading back out to kill our boys. You haven’t seen another attack on our soil since 9/11. There is a very good reason. It is because of the policies that were set up. It wasn’t because they weren’t trying to hit us here again, but because of the policies set up. Our current administration is in the middle of dismantling the entire protective mechanism and all you can do is come here and call that mechanism an “abortion”. Sorry, but I strongly disagree, and I will do so respectfully as long as you share the same courtesy.

  • AFITgrad86

    What is needed is a new (for lack of a better name) continental congress with representation from each of the states that agree wit or sign onto the RI proclamation. The goal is to create a document similar to a constitutional amendment reaffirming states rights and the limitations placed on the power of the federal government.

    The easiest way to pull the feds teeth is to nullify the right of the federal government to tax individual incomes. No money … no power …

    By the way … Poe and Hardball … every military member is trained on the laws of armed conflict. However it is hard to afford the protections of the Geneva convention to cowards who dress in civilian attire and mix in with women and children before opening fire.

    If they all want to wear a armband, headband or some distinctive garment not worn by the civilian populace then the rules change. But as long as they dress like civilians (who also openly carry weapons in many areas) and act like combatants then they do not deserve the protection of the Geneva conventions.

  • Hardball1911(Revolutionary Constitutionalist)

    AFIT, 110% agreed. ;)

  • http://tick-tick-booom.spaces.live.com ticticboom (Will Kill For The Constitution)

    I really don’t know what to say to someone who considers an Al Qaeda murdering coward a soldier. If, after all they’ve done and the thousands they’ve raped and butchered, someone still believes them the moral equals of our servicemen, I don’t see how I can change their minds. We hung men in the service and uniform of actual national armies for less than what your average jihadi considers a fun way to spend Saturday night.

  • bd

    They are not the only ones. Can one of write up a story about it? Go here: http://gunslingersjournal.blogspot.com/2009/02/states-notice-tenth-amendment.html This is the Gunslingers Journal and he is reporting and linking to the sites that Oklahoma, Arizona, Washington, and Missouri are doing it to!…

    The quiet States Rights Revolt is spreading…

  • jasjfarrell

    Somebody better call Judd Greg.

  • WestCoastGirl

    :arrow: Hardball1911(Revolutionary Constitutionalist)
    Where are you in FL? I’m in Polk County and ready to learn my weapons forward and backwards.

  • Hardball1911(Revolutionary Constitutionalist)

    WCG…

    I am near Daytona. :)

  • http://bb.bbboy.net/themainepatriotboard Poe

    “If I were to assemble 2000 people and train them as a battalion of non-federal military, assign ranks, etc. I would be committing a federal felony.”-HB

    We are familiar with the Domestic Insurgency Act of 1995, HR1544, and of course we are not “combat” training. We are a hiking club, working on our land navigation; you should go to our web page; or we are just a recreational shooting club, just practicing for a match; or we are avid sportsmen out scouting for this hunting season… I was briefly a PMI during my stint in the suck, I was also a cadre for CQB training down in Chesapeake as well, and I can assure you that there is absolutely, positively, no combat training going on here.

    “The guys taking pot shots at you that aren’t in uniform can, by the Geneva Convention, be considered spies, or irregular combatants, which are treated as spies, and do NOT have to be active in espionage.” -HB

    *Shrug* Guess we will have to disagree then. However there is little difference in the Arabs we stick in Gitmo and the Gunmen we captured in Somolia. Same age (boys for the most part), same lack of literacy, same piss poor hygiene, same lack of uniform… Yet they were afforded PoW status by us until we turned them over to the locals, it was the right thing to do.

    To say they have lost that right because the lack of uniform made them “spies” in this case and that being captured in force on force combat engagements with our troops was some kind of espionage is the kind of political doublespeak that I am happy to neither understand nor believe in.

    It would have cost us nothing to afford them PoW status until turning them over to the authorities in the country of origin, or keep them in Gitmo as PoW’s, it is not like we have mistreated them, why take the hit over it? Even if we “Can” consider them spies legally, despite the lack of precedent to do so in previous confrontations with similar combatants, should we have?

    And no, I don’t take what you said as a personal attack, nor would I be overly troubled if it were, I have endured one from time to time and been known to rate one on occasion. However in this case we just don’t agree, but neither of us is the type to let something float past quietly without a comment at the very least and I am the kind who wears his opinions on his chest. It may offend some, but no one ever wonders where I stand. I have had this same debate with close friends and they seldom agree with me either, they do not think any less of me, nor I of them. Just means that we disagree.

    And Tictic, the lack of morals in my enemy is no reflection how I treat them, it is my moral choices that determine that. I give respect to any man who will stand up and trade shots with another for what they believe in, even if I disagree with those beliefs. Don’t get me wrong, I catch him acting like an animal and I will be the first one to put him down, but I come out of the gate treating him like an equal and work down from there. That’s what makes me “Morally” superior to them.

  • Hardball1911(Revolutionary Constitutionalist)

    WCG,

    try http://www.uspsa.org

    Find a club in your area, then start attending matches. :) Good first step.

  • aboutTObegin

    thanks Hardball! when I return, that will be the organization that I will become a part of…

  • http://rightinaleftworld.blogspot.com/ LewWaters

    Actually, we have been in a Civil War of sorts for some time, just not a shooting war. Our constitution has been ripped to shreds by legal manuevers as the federal government grants itself more and more power.

    I hope to see more states join New Hampshire in this move, but won’t hold my breath for Washington State.

  • http://www.myspace.com/frankensubie brotherscoobs

    “also NEW HAMPSHIRE IS A LIBERAL STATE”
    NH ius far less liberal than you might think…i was born and raised there andlived there for 40 of my 42 years..once you get north of the bordering town you’ll find that the folks are generally quite conservative…unfortunatly most of the voteing public there is in the southern areas near the mass border…I.E. libs…it’s a shame for that to happen …i watched it happen over a period of about 20 yrs..the massholes moved there to escape mass and turned southern nh into a boston suburb and brought all the problems they left with em…

  • http://www.myspace.com/frankensubie brotherscoobs

    oh yeah…remember…ruger and sig sauer are located in NH restrictions on gun laws would really hurt the economy in NH
    i think the state gov’t saw that and why it’s such a huge part of the resolution

  • Keith Rayeski

    It sounds good but, there as a NH native, I know there are too many democrats in this state to take this hot air serious. I’m reading between the lines on this one! For those that do not know, there is a strong push in my state to make queer marriages legal, at all levels. At present marriage is not legal, but we do have “civil unions” however, they are not recognized by the feds. I won’t go into the advantages of a state requiring the feds to recognize a marriage or civil union issued by a state, your all bright enough to add that up. You should also be aware that many years ago the state of NH repealed its law permitting a militia. Yes, we AT PRESENT, still have some of the most lacked gun laws in the nation, but don’t hold your breath….with the powers to be in Concord as they now stand, much could change in that area too, and sooner than we care to think about. Yes, it sounds good on paper, but lift the rug and see what’s hiding under before you sing the praises of the New Hampshire legislators and want to have your state follow suit. There’s an old expression I can’t post here but before you leap, check the wood pile!
    This state led the way in getting Obama in the white house, and there are far too many federal dollars to be had to believe they have the states best interests at heart. But that’s just how I see it.
    Oh yes, the civil union, if you are a state employee, or retired state employee, and in a state sanctioned civil union and die, your “partner” is entitled to the same benefits of a married heterosexual couple. However, if you are straight and NOT married, you are not entitled to a civil union and your partner gets zip if you die…I’m not getting excited about this back door (no pun intended) move to get queer marriages accepted on a national level. Live Free or Die….we even have a law that allows you to legally cover the state motto over on the vehicle registration plates of you car…it’s more so, live and let die…..all matters of traditional American value, that’s more like it. As a NH native, I am a minority in my own state, by virtue of the fact that I AM a NH native, and a life member of the NRA.

  • http://rightinaleftworld.blogspot.com/ LewWaters
  • Hardball1911(Revolutionary Constitutionalist)

    Poe,

    In Somalia, it was different. We turned them over, why? Because we knew what awaited them, and it was what we weren’t allowed to do to them. In Boz, it was uniforms we were fighting. In our current situation, affording them any mention of “PoW” or “Enemy Combatant” is one and the same. It means that they are to face military tribunals before they are allowed their freedom, or before they face punishment for war crimes, such as cutting a prisoner’s head off, shooting unarmed helicopter pilots, blowing up civilians, planning the destruction of civilian infrastructure, etc. What’s hard to understand? They all stand charged with conspiracy of some form or the other, they are all labeled “Enemy Combatants” and those that have been released have proven that they are in Gitmo Deservedly by going back once released, after many promises that ,”Hey Mr. America, I am really a nice guys, you have me all wrongs…I am innocent.” and snowing the system, and making propaganda films about how they “endured” the harsh treatment of three meals a day, a place to sleep other than up Ahmed’s goat’s ass, prayer rugs, etc. provided by American taxpayers instead of being shot dead when they chickened out and didn’t want to die on the battlefield after claiming that they were such the martyrs.

    These are the one’s who deserve the punishment and deserve to disappear from the face of the earth, yet we are in a disagreement over the fact that they are labeled one thing or the other. All in all, it doesn’t really matter, they were afforded a second chance to live, and most of the released have proven that they didn’t deserve it. They will not get a third chance should they encounter our forces on the battlefield again, which, by the way, is where they were “snatched” from. We didn’t go into Jordan, we didn’t go into Pak, we didn’t go into Saudi, they came to Iraq and Afghanistan to meet us. And paid with their freedom. Not my choice, not your choice, it was theirs. I feel no regret for how they were treated other than the fact they should have never seen a paradise like Gitmo. Shouldn’t have made it that far. They should have bled out on the driest piece of sand we could have found so that their blood was sucked up like water to feed the land, then a tree planted in their rib cages to provide shade for the truly innocent in this fight, which are the kids who just want to live free.

    Bear in mind, I have seen my time in “the suck” as well. It is apparent to me that you have let yourself be “sucked” into an ideology that it appears has you wondering which direction to go. The only help I can offer is to tell you that you miss many of the points made because of semantics. Continually arguing the semantics of situations only leaves you in the same category as anti-gunners are today. They don’t care that the Constitution says that God gave us the right to bear arms, they want to argue the semantics over how it was written in order to jack everyone’s head up to the point we just say fuck it. “What do the words ‘the people’ mean in this instance? All of the people as a whole, meaning a group, or individuals all pulled together? We think it means everyone as a group, so that it isn’t an individual right.” Yet, they discount the fact that everywhere else in the Constitution that uses the words “the people” indicates individual rights. Follow me? MY loyalties aren’t to this country. Point blank. My loyalties have nothing to do with The United States of America. MY loyalties are to The Constitution of The United States of America. That is where everyone’s loyalties should be. If one’s loyalties are to the country, as one knows it now, then one is part of the problem.

    Which is exactly what I read NH and the like minded states are trying to demonstrate.

    I would much rather be the better human being by labeling you an “Enemy Combatant” and keeping you spirited away somewhere safe, than to simply put a bullet in your head needlessly when I know you are following an ideology that is misguided. I would say that “abortion” of a policy was Bush’s way of trying to show that we as a people have mercy on our enemy. Technically we didn’t have to keep them alive, let alone keep them in detention. But we showed the entire world that we are better not only technologically, but spiritually as well.

    By the way, the Domestic Insurgency Act of 1995 was the second part of another act passed prior to that so that the Federal Government could “deal with militias”. Like “assault weapons” those nasty, dirty, rotten and evil right wingers cling to with such antipathy and anger. Because God knows, weapons aren’t needed to defend one’s self from tyranny in times like these, right? If they can demonize it, they can make it go away. That is the reason my loyalties lay with the Constitution and not the country. Which leads me to the comment I made about you preaching to the choir. Most of us here at Dollard’s site are experienced enough, or have those in our lives who are experienced enough, to be able to fight a battle without too much input from anywhere else. We are the one’s who understand why the fight is necessary, and we recognize the attempts that true leadership has made to make us safe in that fight. We also recognize traitorous action a bit sooner than most.

    Hmmm, ever hear of The Water Poet’s Society? Being Poe, and all I figured you might.

  • aboutTObegin

    wow……is this what ofucko intended from the get go???? :mad: :mad: :mad:

  • http://mailboxawnings.com Marka in the Keys

    :arrow: Steve in NC:

    Wow. What did Key West start with its Conch Republic? (You’re right that it was just a state of mind, but it still reflected a yearning to be free of big government.) The response to this Dollard article is telling. Almost 62,000,000 did not vote for Obama. That’s a lot of yearning. I’m still looking for a bumper sticker: 62,000,000 voted Nobama.

  • http://sskotb.blogspot.com/ Steve Savage “King of the Beasts”

    HEADS UP TO ALL MILITIAS

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rEfdCqpb_Y

    Steve Savage “King of the Beasts”
    http://sskotb.blogspot.com/

  • http://bb.bbboy.net/themainepatriotboard Poe

    “Hmmm, ever hear of The Water Poet’s Society?” –HB

    If you mean the Edgar Allan Poe Society of Baltimore, on Water St, then yes I am familiar with them, otherwise I got nothing…

    For me the 2nd amendment is cut and dry, I am actually thinking of getting it inked across my shoulders… The whole “Enemy Combatant” or “PoW” thing is more grey than I like, I agree completely that we have treated them humanely, above and beyond what was called for thou.

    I have many Constitutionalists mates; they are a good sort, but to prone to thump a bible for my particular tastes, thou that could just be the particular crowd of them in this area of the frozen north. Regardless, it is seldom a problem, I am a man of faith but I get stabby when someone tries to push their interpretation of faith on me, or put even more guidelines on my conduct.

    There already too many laws and guidelines for my libertarian nature.

    Anyway, here is a good joke for someone who remembers Ford being in office sent to me by a mate of mine.

    As men age, we start seeing more and more of the medical world and its employees, which nowadays seems to have more and more women as our Physicians and Therapists ETC. and in this case a new Urologist for me.

    My family Doctor just recently referred me to a just out of medical school female urologist. I saw her yesterday, and she’s absolutely drop-dead gorgeous as well as unbelievably sexy.

    She told me that I must stop masturbating.

    I asked her why, and she said,

    “Because I’m trying to examine you……”

  • http://bobstruth.blogspot.com Bob Allen

    The other 56 states should be right behind.

    Its about time. Obama has divided the nation more than any President since the election of Lincoln precipitated the las civil war.

  • pigbenus

    lets kick it

  • Jon

    It seems that the spark is catching fire……..

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=88218

  • Davey

    This is interesting as a citizen of NH I had not seen this headline as I’ve been away for a while. Personally, I doubt it passes, but it sounds like a warning to the Feds of possible coming unrest among the peasants. I’ll post what I hear from my end.

  • Hardball1911(Revolutionary Constitutionalist)

    I am actively pursuing Florida’s legislature to do the same. WestCoastGirl and others in Florida, you need to contact your local state representatives and push them into it!

  • aboutTObegin

    Hawaii is voicing their traitor voice in it???? fuck them…if anything they should disclose the kenyans TRUE birth certificate!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

  • http://sharprightturn.wordpress.com/2009/02/09/push-for-state-sovereignty-keep-an-eye-on-it/ Push for State Sovereignty – Keep an eye on it « Sharp Right Turn

    [...] Sovereignty – Keep an eye on it Posted on February 9, 2009 by sharprightturn I found this interesting bit of news over the weekend.  Apparently several states have or are working on resolutions to basically declare their State [...]

  • Cur

    The South is Rising again. Just this time in Yankee Territory. WOOHOO! The Day of reckoning is upon.. The United States shall become Confederate states.

  • Martha

    http://www.bordc.org/list.php

    Be aware that NH is NOT alone. You may want to add this link to your article.

  • http://forum.grasscity.com/politics/334079-increasing-number-states-declaring-sovereignty-2.html#post3896818 Increasing Number of States Declaring Sovereignty – Page 2 – Grasscity.com Forums

    [...] Increasing Number of States Declaring Sovereignty Resolution Immediately Voids Several Federal Laws [...]

  • http://bomarc.org Haraam

    Bravo. And WE were non-uniformed combattants when we left British rule. So there.

  • http://www.deadkennedys.com Dead Kennedys

    It’s time for civil war. Conservatives vs. Marxist Libtards.Hell in the Cell

  • http://www.USchronology.com Jim Lorenz

    I’m glad to see this quite appropriate restoration of the IX & X Amendments to full force and effect.
    I also suggest a few vital amendments: Repeal the 17th ‘A’ and make the States responsible for their share of congressional expenses, salaries & benefits, housing expenses, per deim, etc.
    Perhaps getting their paychecks and instructions from their home States might remind them of State’s Rights; at the least the Members of Congress should not be federal employees.

  • Len

    Well after reading that, made me think about a few things.
    I always thought we was a republic of the untied states of america.
    I noticed one point in there about business, had me thinking about the banks, and how the feds, bought stock, and now telling them how to run things.

    New Hamshire has alot of banks with credit cards all over the board. So maybe they are saying thanks for the tax payers money, now back off, or else.

  • D

    From what I can glean from the government website, this is a resolution that has been introduced but not passed.

  • Retired in NJ

    They could have done this any time under GWB — Executive Signing Statements, just one example — so why now?

  • Dave

    I’m surprised this was not mentioned yet but there already is a Continental Congress forming and delegates are being organized in EVERY state as we speak. Review the complete details at:

    http://www.WeThePeopleFoundation.org
    And most important – spread this news and info all over the place! This is pure grassroots so every voice helps.

    The latest update for the continental congress for Feb 1st is: http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/UPDATE/Update2009-02-01.htm

    From the main page though if you scroll down you’ll see links to follow the whole story on the Continental Congress including videos of some of the meetings.

  • Dave

    The following links are for the (6) six, 10-minute edited segments of the San Francisco January 11th Continental

    Congress 2009 meeting. Notes below each link indicate the content of the segment:

    YouTube – WTP CC 2009, Jan 11, ’09 Meeting Part 1
    WTP CC 2009, Jan 11, ’09 Meeting Part 1
    We The People Foundation
    Right to Petition
    Section 61, Magna Carta

    YouTube – WTP CC 2009, Jan 11, ’09 Meeting Part 2
    WTP CC 2009, Jan 11, ’09 Meeting Part 2
    Declaration of Independence
    Petitions for Redress
    No Response

    YouTube – WTP CC 2009, Jan 11, ’09 Meeting Part 3
    WTP CC 2009, Jan 11, ’09 Meeting Part 3
    Additional Petitions
    Withholdings

    YouTube – WTP CC 2009, Jan 11, ’09 Meeting Part 4
    WTP CC 2009, Jan 11, ’09 Meeting Part 4
    Obama’s Ineligibility

    YouTube – WTP CC 2009, Jan 11, ’09 Meeting Part 5
    WTP CC 2009, Jan 11, ’09 Meeting Part 5
    Bailouts
    The Plan
    Continental Congress

    YouTube – WTP CC 2009, Jan 11, ’09 Meeting Part 6
    WTP CC 2009, Jan 11, ’09 Meeting Part 6
    Individual Rights
    Mass Movement

    The following (3) Google Video links are for the full, 3-hour version of the same San Francisco/Schulz CC 2009

    presentation. Each segment is approximately 45 minutes to an hour in length:

    PART 1 of 3:
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3097108301977391874&hl=en

    PART 2 of 3:
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5582995029692576550&hl=en

    PART 3 of 3:
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6014020630220801273&hl=en

  • Michael

    For once I would like to see some Constitutionalists who aren’t fecking rabid right-wingers bitching about “reverse discrimination” (gimme a break) and “hippies” calling the President a “commie” and whatnot. Seriously. If Obama is a “commie” then right-wing poster boy Ronnie Raygun sure as hell was one too (or do you really think he was above breaking the spirit, if not letter, of the Constitution? Well?). Whatever power President Obama has that is extra-Constitutional came well before 20 January 2009. He sure as hell didn’t create this mess within 3 weeks time.

  • http://N/A Graystoke

    More than just New Hampshire, my state, Oklahoma, is set to pass similar legislation withing the next month -

    Stimulus Plan: States Fire Warning Shot to Obama
    By Headline News

    States including Washington, Arizona, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma, Hawaii and New Hampshire have drafted bills reminding the Federal Government of their voluntary submission under the Tenth Amendment.

    Source – http://www.thevoicemagazine.com/headline-news/434-stimulus-plan-states-fire-warning-shot-to-obama.html

  • http://respect-authority.com lou

    i understand the impluse. truly. but what about major corporation and their multinational interests?

    jefferson’s definition of tyranny makes sense in the 18th century? But what happens when governments are afraid of banks and corporations? where do people fit in? if we don’t have something as massive as the federal government, what would take is place? or rather what’s more likely to take its place?

  • Rusty Shackleford

    This is America. NEW HAMPSHIRE IS AMERICA! This is what we were built on, this is what we’re truly made of. I hope other states tag along.

    I just wish that the rest of the world recognized this. The PEOPLE of America are just as angry as the rest of you folks, I swear. We do try to set things right, but it seems that all our ‘leaders’ need to do to get rid of us is plug their ears and walk away.

    Despite the vastly overshadowing/devastating actions of some of our people, I will still assure everyone evermore that our CITIZENS are not evil. We want peace as much as the rest of the world, and without war or unjust actions, sanctions, et cetera.

    Have some faith in us. I love you all. God loves you all, no matter your faith, sex, color, anything.

  • Craighton

    The government should be scared of the people, not the other way around. We elect these people to “DO” for us; and what do they do (they help themselves) promoting there own agendas once in office.

    The fore fathers had it “RIGHT” they wrote the constitution in a way that the people could “CHECK” ourselves. Now our “rights” are just “interpretations” They are what OUR NEW GOVERNMENT SAYS IT IS.

    one last word “WHATEVER” The powerful will always do what they want.

  • http://taoist.wordpress.com/2009/02/11/whoa-thats-a-bill/ Whoa! That’s a Bill! « Tai-Chi Policy

    [...] Jeffersonian Principles” is an astounding piece of legislation (h/t Hal Turner, The Betrayal, Pat Dollard) that refutes any Federal laws outside of the areas the constitution allows for. In other words, [...]

  • gina

    Tuna Asked:

    Is it just me or am I reading this wrong??????? If the federal government does any of those things listed,

    “and warning that certain future acts will be viewed as a “breach of peace” with the states themselves that risks “nullifying the Constitution.”

    So this would nullify the Constitution and not the government itself. Isn’t that what Obama wants, to nullify the Constitution!!!! That way they could write their own constitution without the State(the people’s) consent…….

    I think it’s saying that the powers previously given to the Federal Government will go to the states:

    “That should any such act of Congress become law or Executive Order or Judicial Order be put into force, all powers previously delegated to the United States of America by the Constitution for the United States shall revert to the several States individually. :cool:

  • ratn9ne

    :idea: This is crazy and awesome. I hope news of this gets out. I fear the fed will not let this go unpunished though :(

  • Zimzalabim

    Hi Pat. You are correct in thinking that there will be a civil war. Unfortunately, however it will not be this year. The next civil war will be after the next general election in 2012. A warning to you though: the United States or the States themselves will not survive as we know it. The rising powers in the east ultimately take advantage of this new found weakness and will annex certain states ultimately calling an end to the American super power.

  • Jimmy

    “We The People” of the America will reestablish our sovereignty, restore the Republic, & will live happily ever after.

  • Crackhutch

    To whoever said Military Training is against the law, paintball isn’t! :twisted:

  • Solomon

    At any point in time one is subject to lose forever to others rights that they are not willing to defend for themselves. On average between 80% and 85% of people are sheep and are easily lead by those that often do not have their primary interest at heart. Hence, the reason that the federal government has grown so large since the 1930′s. The socialist interest of the W. Wilson and FDR administration began the construction for and expansion of an enlarged federal government. LB Johnson was a FDR ‘new dealer” that decided to enlarge the federal government and his ego at the same time to surpass the job “big government” that his mentor (FDR) had done 30 years earlier. We now have B. Hussein O that plans to expand the encompasing powers of the federal government to form a controlling socialist state. We as residence have very little time remaining to either stand up and defend what states rights that remain and actively resist becoming minions to the socialist state or forsake ourselves and our families to remain servants forever.

  • Solomon

    PS:

    Evil is rarely as monstrous and ugly as it is alluring and subtle. Evil by its nature is very experienced at deception.

  • http://www.allamericanblogger.com/6573/this-act-by-new-hampshire-is-a-clear-warning-to-the-federal-government-that-they-could-face-being-stripped-of-their-power-by-the-states-presumably-through-civil- “This act by New Hampshire is a clear warning to the federal government that they could face being stripped of their power by the States (presumably through civil war!)” | All American Blogger

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  • http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/general-chat/66644-new-hampshire-say-live-free-die-they-mean.html#post697282 New Hampshire say Live Free or Die – And they mean it! – mcarterbrown.com

    [...] Hampshire say Live Free or Die – And they mean it! Pat Dollard | Young Americans | Blog Archive New Hampshire Fires First Shot Of Civil War – Resolutio… New Hampshire has introduced bill HCR6: HCR 0006 That introduces a resolution to declare certain [...]

  • http://www.SeedsOfTruth.org bernard b carman

    AWESOME! NH is setting a GOOD example for fighting tyranny!

    Another good example: Continental Congress 2009 — http://www.GiveMeLiberty.org

  • michael lyster

    God be thanked for a legislature with an actual spine and working pair. Would that the other 49 weren’t filled with careerist invertebrates and public parasites.
    You go, New Hampshire. Every revolution starts with one brave act.

  • Prominent Cornhusker

    To the people of New Hampshire,

    The citizens of the State of Nebraska salute you.

  • Rationalist

    BRAVO!!!!!

  • Marty Henley

    It’s about time. I’d move to NH to fight for that.

  • Jack J

    I just wish it was not only introduced into the legislature, but also passed and signed by the governor. This is perhaps the only way to prevent what the NWO conspirators have planned for us.

  • John Galt, Jr.

    Come on NH! Oklahoma is with you!

  • Steve Keith

    EVERYONE here needs to read this government report, especially the electrical grid portion. Remember what it says…

    http://www.empcommission.org/docs/A2473-EMP_Commission-7MB.pdf

  • Domino

    Praise be to God and country. It’s about time. Let the revolution begin. It’s past time to take our country back.

  • Dan

    I totally agree with the Constitutionalism take.

    DO IT.

  • http://tps-report.org/2009/02/11/us-states-are-declaring-sovereignty-from-the-federal-government/ tps-report.org » Blog Archive » U.S. States are declaring sovereignty from the federal government

    [...] The most serious and tangible of these eight are surprisingly, New Hampshire of all places.  From Pat Dollard’s blog: The New Hampshire state legislature took an unbelievably bold step Monday by introducing a [...]

  • eric

    I was on a rant a few months ago when i heard of the feds plucking a doctor out of california for selling medical marijuana which is legal in that state.

    Nobody would listen, nobody cared.

    The Supreme Court also is content to sit idle as unconstitutional laws are passed.
    You’re not that childs legal guardian.
    Just makes me sad.

    The General Government is definitely out of control and I appluad NH for speaking up.

  • http://truthalert.net Mike

    This brings a tear to my eye. I’m proud to be NH born!

    Patriots must unite against anti-Constitutional forces driving toward totalitarian democracy. Secession may be the answer.

    The global socialists are readying their next move…

    http://truthalert.net/Get%20Out%20of%20the%20Dollar.htm

  • NYCanon

    In other words, AMERICA,FUCK YEAH!!!

  • http://normanhooben.blogspot.com/ Norm

    Ref:NH
    “I was just reading more of your comments and I’m pleased to say there WILL be a second revolution in this country and Obama’s crimes will be the tipping point. It is coming soon…”

    I made my own prediction here:
    http://normanhooben.blogspot.com/2009/02/glimpse-at-history-and-prediction-and.html

  • http://darkmanblog.wordpress.com/2009/02/12/new-hampshire-legislature-files-resolution-declaring-states-rights/ New Hampshire legislature files resolution declaring state’s rights « Darkblog

    [...] Hampshire legislature files resolution declaring state’s rights From Pat Dollard: The New Hampshire state legislature took an unbelievably bold step Monday by introducing a [...]

  • http://www.nefga.org/forum/everything-else/20123-new-hampshire-fires-warning-shot.html#post187696 New Hampshire Fires Warning Shot – Nebraska Fish and Game Association

    [...] New Hampshire Fires Warning Shot Check out this bill introduced by the New Hampshire state legislature! Anybody that believes in the individual states liberty and freedom will LOVE this! Almost too good to be true in my opinion. I plan on contacting my state legislatures asking them to consider introducing such a resolution in Nebraska. Link below is to the actual bill/resolution. HCR 0006 This link is to another site discussing the bill. Pat Dollard | Young Americans | Blog Archive New Hampshire Fires First Shot Of Civil War – Resolutio… [...]

  • http://www.huntingne.com/forum/political-forum/24729-new-hampshire-fires-warning-shot.html#post82290 New Hampshire Fires Warning Shot – Hunting Nebraska Outdoor Forums

    [...] New Hampshire Fires Warning Shot Check out this bill introduced by the New Hampshire state legislature! Anybody that believes in the individual states liberty and freedom will LOVE this! Almost too good to be true in my opinion. I plan on contacting my state legislatures asking them to consider introducing such a resolution in Nebraska. Link below is to the actual bill/resolution. HCR 0006 This link is to another site discussing the bill. Pat Dollard | Young Americans | Blog Archive New Hampshire Fires First Shot Of Civil War – Resolutio… [...]

  • CorneliusJYashinbok

    You know, its hard for me to clarify where I stand on these things. On one hand I’m a farm-raised, bar-fighting ex-Marine who wandered the world in service nearly 30 years ago. I was turned against many things from my experiences – affirmative action, liberal viewpoints, government intervention and subsidies… Separation of church and state doesn’t come any clearer than fighting the requirement of state approval of a church’s ritual (marriage). On the other hand I lived off the grid for 10 years, developing the view that individuals are worth more than the whole. By that I mean I don’t care if you’re gay, straight, brown, red or whatever – I care if you’re a decent person, upright, and can contribute in some way large or small to the world.

    Reading some of these comments reinforces that I know comparatively little about the foundation of our nation, politics and policies. I think like many people in this country I’m also conflicted, even at odds with my own beliefs. I will fight hard for the right to keep and bear my assorted arms, yet preferred to focus on that fight today than on the fight for numerous other rights under attack by the last administration. I understand why it may be necessary for a physical revolt for things to change, simply because nothing else can overcome the vast $ being thrown at our ‘leaders’ to form legislation. I’m torn between a live-and-let-live philosophy and embracing my state’s motto of “Live Free or Die, Death is not the worst of evils.” I detest extremes whether liberal or conservative, extremism is generally accompanied by someone trying to force me to live the way they SAY we should and not as they DO live. As a simple farmboy I learned that the louder a man speaks the less his words stand up to examination, and thats only been affirmed over time.

    Kill them all, let God sort them out. Torture is inhumane. Help those who can’t help themselves. Put that 12-child-bearing welfare skank to death. Smoking marijuana is illegal. Marijuana is less harmful to the individual and society than government taxed alcohol and tobacco. Protect us from ourselves. Shoot the lawyers first.

    I agree the federal government is out of control in size, waste, intrusion, coersion and probably a few more ways if I think a few minutes. I am glad to see this step being taken, and hope something comes of it. Yet what do we lose if it does? While many are draconian, some federal laws offer protection that a state alone cannot. How does NH punish a company’s illegal action if it resides in several states, or overseas? How about a corrupt business exec? Without sales or wage tax where does the money come from that the federal government would stop or reduce if such a thing passes?

    Be careful what you wish for, as they say. A relatively small percentage of us are ready and capable to face how life could be with the dissolution of federal management. Just my thoughts.

  • Ed in Cali

    “America is at that awkward stage. It’s too late to change the system from within, yet too early to shoot the bastards.” – Claire Wolf

    Ms. Wolf, your prophetic statement is about to be changed!

  • Mike Lorrey

    I know Itse and Ingbretson, good guys, constitutionalist/libertarian/republican types. Problem is the Dems control the legislature in NH right now and this bill will be dead on arrival in committee.

  • Jim K

    Wow. I understand that there are already other states that have enacted similar legislation or are in the process of doing so. What state are they? This may be what it takes to wake up those idiots in Washington.

  • El Toro Verde

    WestCoastGirl. You really do your homework.

    I especially like the way the Arizona legislators put it:

    A CONCURRENT RESOLUTION

    CLAIMING SOVEREIGNTY UNDER THE TENTH AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OVER CERTAIN POWERS, SERVING NOTICE TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO CEASE AND DESIST CERTAIN MANDATES AND PROVIDING THAT CERTAIN FEDERAL LEGISLATION BE PROHIBITED OR REPEALED.

  • http://www.abovetopsecret.com Projectvxn

    This is proof that we’re all Americans regardless of the color we attach to the state. But what do you expect when people are pushed so far, and robbed so much by both parties.

  • doogle

    Maybe there really is some hope out there…and maybe, just maybe, there is change acomin’…

  • Come_and_take_it

    Echoing the comments of several other Texans – go get ‘em NH. We got your back.

    Save the Union. Evict the looters. Join or die.

  • Former WaMu Vice President

    I was a Vice President for Washington Mutual Bank in Seattle for nearly five years. I can guarantee you that this “stimulous” package will finish our economy off. A lot of us at WaMu fought for years with Senior Leadership proving to them over and over what the forecast was and laying out what changes needed to be made. Including thousands of Federal Compliance violations severe enough to shut down the bank. We were told it was not their priority they would fix it with “WooHoo free checking” The scary part those same Senior Leaders who we all saw Chase make an example of when they walked them out of the Executive Floor in the WaMu headquarters in Seattle they then quietly hired them back to run Chase with high sign on bonuses. Including the COO Steve Rotella who I personally saw his poor judgements and decisions run the bank into the ground. When a business fails it fails, that is what free enterprise is. When a person gets in over their head in debt they need to fail, learn from it and rebuild. What kind of example are we setting to the next generation spend spend spend and someone will bail you out. Well they will be the ones paying for these poor choices along with their grandchildren at the rate they are spending. I am sick of turning on CNN and Obama saying that we just don’t get it. Well I would love the opprotunity to sit him along with a lot of other people in government and give them a lesson in banking 101 since they seem to have missed it in High School. I left WaMu on my own last summer, after fighting five years of a losing battle. I wasn’t going to give up my own integrity and stay. States have to stand up to him and say NO!!!! He seems to think that winning an election made him the ultimate power of the world and no one should stand up to him.

  • StandingStrong

    Idaho will stand behind this movement. So will Montana, Texas, Arizona, and many of the MidWest and Souther states. Good luck you guys, God with us.

  • Cousin Adams

    Interesting stuff, and potentially very useful from the perspective of serving as a rallying cry to whatever segment of the public still values the rights of the individual. Please don’t forget that the rights of individuals to autonomy is what this is ultimately about… As actual law, I think this is a dead fish. It is only proposed in NH, and unlikely to pass. Perhaps it has a better chance in one of the “copycat” states, but I am skeptical. Should this pass anywhere and that State consent to adjudication by a Federal court, it will lose. Unfortunately the _form_ of the Constitution has been mostly followed (Scotus’ expansive interpretation of the Interstate Commerce clause in particular) in the course of trashing the Bill of Rights. I’d like to see the conscription exception stripped from the proposal. If a society isn’t considered worth defending by its citizenry, what useful purpose is served by an attempt to compel patriotism?

    I’d also like to remind you that most (probably all) States are currently larger (hence more unwieldy) than the entire US was in 1787. And there is no magic spell that renders State governments immune to visiting the same kind of abuses on their citizens as those articulated as grievances in this proposal. Research Shay’s Rebellion. The Boston elite disenfranchised the farmers of Western Massachusetts in order to inflict upon them an unfair share of that state’s Revolutionary War debt (taxation without representation, sound vaguely familiar?). When the farmers rebelled against this injustice, the Mass State militia crushed and captured them. The Boston elite, including (I am ashamed to admit) my ancestors John and Sam Adams imprisoned them for asserting the very rights over which the Colonies had fought the British. Sam Adams actually wanted to put them in front of a firing squad. That colossal windbag and hypocrite John Adams then proceeded to help create the Constitution, and shortly thereafter (as President) gutted it with the Alien and Sedition Acts. The moral is not to become enamored of one particular form or institution of government; all who seek power over others are inherently suspect, bear close and vigilant scrutiny, and must be kept on an exceedingly short leash, always. No matter what the outcome of this initiative, I intend to maintain my franchise to vote from the rooftops as necessary, thank you very much.

    Steve Savage: your website appears to deify Abraham Lincoln, who was the principle architect of the arrogation of State’s rights by the Federal government (not to mention his many other abuses of power and the fact that he probably has as much blood on his hands as any other tyrant in human history.) Don’t you think that Lincoln-worship is in serious conflict with support for the NH resolution?

    -Cousin Adams

  • xntrikk

    New Hampshire, We got your back here in PA. “The times they are a changin’”

  • LibertarianDiscoKitten

    God DAMN, I hope this shit sticks.

    I’m no fan of yours, Pat D, but you make some irrefutably good points and post some fine articles.

    I am all about the fascist federal government getting smacked like a dog with the rolled-up US Constitution and having their nose rubbed in their mess.

    GO NH, GO!

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  • Harley Cox

    Go New Hampshire. It is about time some one got the ball rolling and hope that a lot more states will follow suit especially my home state of Alaska. Time for new blood on capital hill and get rid of the corruption. The new president is correct, it is time for change.. on the hill that is..

  • harletrock

    where do we sign up to help our miliyart take our country back? its gonna happen if obama does not step down, tomorrow he will be the richest man in the world

  • Melody Lavers

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=88218

    So far, eight states have introduced resolutions declaring state sovereignty under the Ninth and Tenth Amendment to the Constitution, including Arizona, Hawaii, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, New Hampshire, Oklahoma and Washington.

    Analysts expect that in addition, another 20 states may see similar measures introduced this year, including Alaska, Alabama, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Nevada, Maine and Pennsylvania.

  • Michael D. Long

    New Hampshire is a little late to chime in on this issue, and as I recall it backed the wrong side the last time around. Abuse of power by the General Government of the United States of America is the sole issue that lead to the illegal war against the 11 sovereign States that formed the Confederate States of America.

    As I grow older, more knowledgeable, and perhaps somewhat wiser, it becomes apparent that freedom is an illusion. We live under the thumb of an increasingly oppressive General Government that becomes more frequent in its abuses of powers delegated by the States. While our military is off “defending freedom” abroad, our liberties are being stripped away by the Congress and President of the United States of America.

    That said, I believe we all know the outcome should any State attempt to enforce its lawful sovereignty.

    Some will read this and believe me to be unpatriotic or a general malcontent – nothing could be further from the truth. I am simply a man who recognizes the damage done by good and true men, acting in good faith, but making unsound decisions that places the welfare of our future generations in jeopardy.

  • LND of TN

    Don’t forget Tennessee! A lot of Texans are Tennesseans who migrated west–and we are the “Volunteers.” And still a RED STATE!!!

    We proudly stood up to our state officials several years ago when they tried to pass a state income tax–and it didn’t happen. We all drove around the court house for days and honked in protest, they couldn’t hold meetings, even when they tried to sneak in a vote–and it never passed.

  • Bobby Hawk

    This right is guaranteed to the states by the constitution of the United States. Remember this is a United States not a Federal Government which governs over its states.

    The Federal Government has no power not granted to it specifically in the constitution (10th amendment), All power is granted to the states and the people

    This is and was the hallmark of the civil war or war between the states. The Federal Government was at that time wanting to assume powers it did not posses.

    Unless you want to become a completely Heglen-Marxist-Socialists/Communist state, you had better be on board with this state. Unless we assert ourselves and take back our power, it will be taken from us. We have no other choice and our back is being forced against the wall by the Marxist Democratic Socialists. We did not choose this fight but we had damn well be ready with all our Christian might to follow it through. If we choose not to follow through, now that the gauntlet has been thrown to the ground, we stand the chance to loose everything we have worked so hard for.

    I personally stand shoulder to shoulder with these brave souls in their quest and will fight if need be to preserve the liberty and rights of the states and the people of those states. Even if that fight means the removal and or extreme reduction of the current federal government system and its replacement with a new system defined by the people and the states who share the want to be united as states.

    While many Democratic Socialists (Liberals) would view my actions and words as hateful, I contest to them that they are not but bloody cowards that hide behind their vast federal government system as a means of coercion and contempt all the while moving us closer and closer toward total communist state domination. Their actions are vile and their thoughts do not rest with the people of the states but rather their own personal agenda toward Socialists/Communist domination as set forth in the 49 Communist goals.

    This vial infection has dominated our colleges in the form of Philosophical thought (Kant, Hegel, Marx), with Humanism as its base religion. It has further completely infected the Democratic party of the United States with this same ideology (the humanistic philosophical theories of Kant-Hegel-Marx). These theories are the very basis of Socialism/Communism which have taken over all other countries save the United States. And in a planned arrangement with other Socialists (Party or European Socialists and Socialists International) our current Democratic regime has with malice and forethought, planned the complete collapse and demise of the United States as well as its replacement with a Communist/Socialists one state government. Evidence can be found of the planning sessions on the Party of European Socialists (PES.org) web site. You will find it interesting the Howard Dean (leader of the US Democratic Party) and Bernie Sanders (Instigator of this ideal), as well as John Podesta (planner for Barack Obamas regime), have been planning this Socialists/Communist takeover with the PES for several years now.

    We must act and act swiftly against these Socialists/Communists or we risk loosing control of our power granted to the states and the people by the constitution. We must be very serious in our resolve and never step down in our conventions. This resolution by the great state of New Hampshire needs to ring through all states of the united states, and We the people need to say said same as first a warning and second as action, that we will not tolerate a Socialist nor Communist agenda nor government action on our shores. That the rights remain in the hands of the states and the people and that no quarter will be given to those who wish us or our attempts at (life liberty and the pursuit of happiness), harm

  • Barry O

    NH do not think the power structure that lies in the shadows is not watching this one.

    You might need to close your credit card bills dc ran up for you. Nat Debt / 50.

  • http://jonesthought.wordpress.com/2009/02/17/new-hampshire-fires-first-shot-of-civil-war-resolution-immediately-voids-several-federal-laws-threatens-counterstrike-against-federal-%e2%80%9cbreach-of-pe New Hampshire Fires First Shot Of Civil War – Resolution Immediately Voids Several Federal Laws, Threatens Counterstrike Against Federal “Breach Of Peace” « jonesthought

    [...] February 17, 2009 in awareness, culture, politics, responsibility patdollard.com [...]

  • http://www.survivingdoomsday.net nathang

    I think its about time that someone stood up for the little people. Its obvious our Federal Government will not stop stripping our rights from us. I hope more states will follow suit and show the Federal Government that we will stand and fight for our rights. If no one is willing to make a stand, then we deserve whatever fate befalls us

  • ken

    lets get it on. all in say I. I I I I I I I I I I I I I :gun: !!!

  • http://udadd.com Tom Alciere

    Please see my “cartoon” at http://udadd.com/images/confed.jpg

  • Bruce

    one glitch in the process may be that there is no lawful President of the united States of America at this time being that the current inhabitant of the White house is alien born.

    Any documents signed by this current usurper will not be valid, ever.

  • Kathy, White GA

    This is the start of a FREE people … acting Free! Maybe if the Constitution was upheld by our representatives who SWEAR to uphold it .. we would not be in the mess we are in!
    Congratulations N.H. I have spread the word to everyone on my email list!

  • Mari/WI

    I want my country back… !!! GO NH!

  • Sundog6

    Our federal government is out of control and has been for some time. Way to go New Hampshire! I’d like to see texas follow suit.

    To Poe: May I suggest that you read the Geneva Convention before spouting off on something you apparently know nothing about. Warning, Poe. Higher order thinking skills will be required.

  • Nancy Lindley

    MY PRAYERS ARE ANSWERED. THE UNITED STATED OF AMERICA LONG AGO FORGOT WHO WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE. WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ILLEGALS ON OUR TEXAS BORDERS THAT WILL EVENTUALLY BANKRUPT THE COUNTRY IF WALL STREET HASN’T ALREADY DONE IT. PEOPLE SAY, WELL THEY COME HERE TO WORK. THEY ALSO SEND THE MONEY THEY MAKE BACK TO MEXICO WHERE DRUG LORDS KILL YOU FOR NOTHING IN FRONT OF TOWN SQUARE. THAT PROBLEM ALONE WILL SOMEDAY CAUSE CIVIL WAR. I’M WITH YOU NEW HAMPSHIRE.

    NANCY IN TEXAS

  • http://wildblue john vaczy

    way too much to absorb…but nothing i have read , i can diagree with.about time we stand up…

  • Indy

    zeeman

    NH used to be a great state to live in, until all the Massholes moved up and highjack it!

    Same way I feel about California.Taken over by the ivirowackos.Believe it or not, this used to be a very conservative state.We have so much oil off the coast it’s seeping up on the beach in globs of tar.Some of the old drill sites are refilling with oil. Enough oil to more than correct the budget. Instead of capitalizing on this precious resource, they raise the taxes.Liberal democrats and invirowackos destroy states.

  • http://www.technohillbilly.net/index.php/2009/02/20/nh-starts-the-civil-war The Screaming Viking » Blog Archive » NH starts the Civil War

    [...] Hampshire fires first shot of civil war, from here: The New Hampshire state legislature took an unbelievably bold step Monday by introducing a [...]

  • Jennings

    I emailed my governor and legislators here in NC. I think it’s brilliant – who knew anyone in NH had the… ahem, guts. If the South weren’t overrun with all the Yankees who fled their self-imposed liberal states (and came here to liberalize ours), we might have a shot at following in NH footsteps. The federal government and the current executive inhabitants are outrageous.

  • Mango

    This brought a tear to my eye. I didn’t dare believe it, even as my chest swelled with pride. Each year the U.S. becomes more and more alien. Big Brother grows closer; censorship by ostracization has become Standard Operation for our culture. Our government practices control, through division, deception, and fear, more and more often. Too often on it’s own citizenry.
    Secession is an ugly, expensive, and bloody word. I would rather choose self-imposed exile.
    Thank God for those damned yanks! Talk about carrying on a tradition of excellence.
    I have a pitchfork and I can make a torch. Haven’t owned a firearm in ages, but the Feds taught me to use one real well. If New Hampshire is willing to go to the wall for States Rights, I think we owe it to ‘em to help ‘em out.
    I’m in.
    -mango
    “That’s my opinion -oughta be yours.” -Mack Truck

  • Bobachek

    Sent the NH resolution to both of my representatives in the Wisconsin state legislature….As I suspected I got zero response from both of them.
    Both of them being Dems I wouldn’t be surprised if both disagreed with my position and my request for them to support a similar resolution in Wisconsin but at least acknowledge you got the e-mail.

    Nothing like self serving politicians…

  • Kevin

    Yeah, let’s attack the Federal Government by force and overthrow them. What should we use to take down the most powerful armed forces in the world? Anyone have an Air Force? Nukes? This is brilliant. New Hamshire has the right idea, and they read the constituion, which is rare among government officials these days, but armed revolt against people WE ELECTED is just a stupid idea. This isn’t 1775, and we are not subjects of king or being taxed without representation. Americans need to wake up, pay attention to how their government works, and demand that their leaders obey the Constitution. If the people lead the leaders will follow.

  • Independent Pekinite

    Not to be a downer, but has this resolution actually been passed? It sounds like it has only been “introduced”. “Crazy” leglislature is always being introduced at both the state and federal level. It doesn’t mean that anyone else in the House supports it other than the one who introduced it.

    I certainly hope this resolution will actually be adopted, but I pessimistically think it is much more likely the resolution will die a quiet death.

  • Right Wing Witch

    RE: Bill of Rights Defense Committee

    http://www.bordc.org/about/

    A quick look at the Bill of Rights this group is “naming” contains some significant omissions. Namely the one about the Right to Keep and Bear Arms shall not be infringed.

    Snipped from their website at the above link:

    Our Vision and Values

    Every person under U.S. jurisdiction or control is entitled to Bill of Rights protections. At all times and especially when federal, state, or local governments propose or enact laws or policies that threaten or deny those rights, the people organize, exercising those same rights in the service of protecting them. Most people understand that the country cannot be made safer by sacrificing some rights for all or part of its population. When the people know and exercise their rights, the liberties guaranteed by the Bill of Rights hold firm and remain self-sustaining.

    BORDC is guided by the Bill of Rights, which was adopted to limit the power of the state over individuals and to preserve basic human and individual rights for every person under U.S. jurisdiction or control, even in times of war or other national crises, and regardless of who holds elected power. The standards of the Bill of Rights define the fundamental protections for every person in our society, namely:

    First Amendment rights of freedom of speech and religion, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom to dissent;
    Liberty from unwarranted government intrusion;
    Nondiscrimination and equal protection of the law;
    The expectation of privacy, and protection from unreasonable search and seizure;
    Due process of law and freedom from arbitrary imprisonment via habeas corpus;
    A speedy and public trial by an impartial jury; and
    Protection from cruel and unusual punishment.

  • Jeff Wright

    You guys should join the revolution here in New Hampshire. Check out the Free State Project at freestateproject dot org and see why nearly 1,000 of us have come together in New Hampshire to achieve liberty in our lifetime. This is the most amazing pro-liberty movement I’ve ever seen. You will certainly find it fascinating.

  • http://www.tsrn.us/blog/2009/02/25/new-hampshire-fires-first-shot-of-civil-war-resolution-immediately-voids-several-federal-laws-threatens-counterstrike-against-federal-%e2%80%9cbreach-of-peace%e2%80% New Hampshire Fires First Shot Of Civil War – Resolution Immediately Voids Several Federal Laws, Threatens Counterstrike Against Federal “Breach Of Peace” | Sentinel Radio

    [...] New Hampshire Fires First Shot Of Civil War – Resolution Immediately Voids Several Federal Laws, Thr… February 4th, 2009 Posted By Pat Dollard. [...]

  • http://www.tsrn.us/blog/2009/02/26/the-winds-of-civil-war-illinois-driven-marxist-attempt-to-conquer-union-threatened-with-military-challenges/ The Winds Of Civil War: Illinois-Driven Marxist Attempt To Conquer Union Threatened With Military Challenges | Sentinel Radio

    [...] Hampshire fired the first shot. Although 7 other states have similar pending resolutions and bills, the Oklahoma House is the [...]

  • Eric

    If and when this gets affirmed I will surely hop the border to live there.

  • http://www.NewHampshireResolution.com Tony Dolz

    The New Hampshire House of Representatives will vote on the New Hampshire Sovereignty Resolution on Wednesday, March 4th.
    For information go to: http://www.NewHampshireResolution.com and http://www.Dolz.com
    Call and email the Representatives. The numbers and email addresses are listed in the website above.
    Thereafter, get the word out about the Continental Congress 2009 to be held later this year.

  • http://www.NewHampshireResolution.com Tony Dolz

    State of New Hampshire House of Representatives will vote Wednesday, March 4th on the New Hampshire Sovereign Resolution.
    See here: http://www.NewHampshireResolution.com
    Call the Representatives or email them. The numbers and email addresses are listed above.
    There after look for patriots in others states demanding their representatives introduce the New Hampshire Resolution in the various states.
    And later this year keep your eyes open for the Continental Congress 2009 to deal with a formal Redress of Grievance of all federal government current violations of the Constitution.

  • http://www.NewHampshireResolution.com Tony Dolz

    State of New Hampshire House of Representatives will vote Wednesday, March 4th on the New Hampshire Sovereign Resolution.
    See here: http://www.NewHampshireResolution.com
    Call the Representatives or email them. The numbers and email addresses are listed above.
    There after look for patriots in others states demanding their representatives introduce the New Hampshire Resolution in the various states.
    And later this year keep your eyes open for the Continental Congress 2009 to deal with a formal Redress of Grievance of all federal government current violations of the Constitution.
    submitted again because I am not sure it is going through.

  • http://clintdiamond.com/2009/02/11/series-of-articles-on-the-secession-of-2009/ Series of articles on the “Secession” of 2009 «

    [...] 9 States Declare Sovereignty New Hampshire Fires First Shot of Civil War [...]

  • http://baghdad-bob.com/?p=231 Is this the first “legislative” shot? | Robert Opyd (baghdad-bob)

    [...] Here is the link… [...]

  • http://www.myspace.com/Raptor_Pilot_172 Raptor Pilot

    When we say “Live Free or Die” some of us actually still mean it…

    I think I had better move back home, to my beloved New Hampshire.

  • http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NationalConstitutionalConvention06 Eric Reinhardt

    Unfortunately, even if this resolution passes, it has no teeth. The federal government can simply ignore it. The REAL POWER the states have is in Article V of the Constitution which provides for a National Constitutional Convention. This is the MEANS by which the states can reign in the federal government.

    Use Article V or lose it . . . and your way of life in the process!!

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NationalConstitutionalConvention06

  • Patriot22

    AMEN brother. I am ashamed at the current direction of this “country”. I have long felt Texas needs to secede.

    ………That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute a new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

  • http://www.brainbloggin.com jesse_b_me

    I am going to send a copy of this bill to my electected officials here in the Great State of Missouri and give it my all to get it passed here.

  • http://www.civil-war-costumes.com Bronnie

    I’m 66 years old and served 1963 – 1969 and am an American Civil War history fan as well. I’m now a fan of yours as well and think you’re right on. Thanks for fighting the fight!

  • http://thearizonasentinel.com/2009/08/11/1356/ Americans Take back your government!!!! « The Arizona Sentinel

    [...] New Hampshire takes steps to void Fed presumptive authority [...]

  • http://n/a valerie

    anyone can post anything on the net. who is ready, willing and able to commit their sacred honor, their property, and if necessary their lives to reclaim The Republic of America?

  • http://spiritlessons.com terry

    New Hampshire have gut. I wish othter states has also. I hated when the goverment want to control every aspect of our life, Obama care, killing unborns,and taking right away from parents.


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