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Mar 31, 2009 40 Comments ›› Pat Dollard

Yes, I pitched in on his title, as those of you who followed the JKH series of the same name can tell. But he was already calling it “Rules For Radicals 2.0″ so my contribution was slight, and just a bumping together of the two of us in the current Conservative collective subconscious.

And perhaps you’ll find him, and others, increasingly in agreement with our so-called “Radicalism” in ACTIVE. Listen to today’s show for a thorough review of that.

Washington Times:

Rules For Conservative Radicals
by Andrew Breitbart

A digital war has broken out, and the conservative movement is losing. Read the comment sections of right-leaning blogs, news sites and social forums, and the evidence is there in ugly abundance. Internet hooligans are spewing their talking points to thwart the dissent of the newly-out-of-power.

We must not let that go unanswered.

Uninvited Democratic activists are on a mission to demoralize the enemy - us. They want to ensure that President Obama is not subject to the same coordinated, facts-be-damned, multimedia takedown they employed over eight long years to destroy the presidency - and the humanity - of George W. Bush.

Political leftists play for keeps. They are willing to lie, perform deceptive acts in a coordinated fashion and do so in a wicked way - all in the pursuit of victory. Moral relativism is alive and well in the land of Hope and Change and its Web-savvy youth brigade expresses its “idealism” in a most cynical fashion.

The ends justify the means for them - now more than ever.

Much of Mr. Obama’s vaunted online strategy involved utilizing “Internet trolls” to invade enemy lines under false names and trying to derail discussion. In the real world, that’s called “vandalism.” But in a political movement that embraces “graffiti” as avant-garde art , that’s business as usual. It relishes the ability to destroy other people’s property in pursuit of electoral victory.

Hugh Hewitt’s popular site shut off its comments section because of the success of these obnoxious invaders. polices nonpartisan newswire stories for such obviously coordinated attacks. Other right-leaning sites such as Instapundit and National Review Online refuse to allow comments, knowing better than to flirt with the online activist left.

During the Clinton impeachment scandal, a new group out of California called employed a plan to get its members to dial into right-leaning talk radio shows with scripted talking points falsely claiming that they were Republicans. They said they would never vote for the GOP again if the case against Bill Clinton was pursued.

Rush Limbaugh was the first to isolate these “seminar callers,” whose mission during the Lewinsky mess was to fool the listening audience into believing they were outraged conservatives willing to cut their ties to the Republican Party if the GOP-led Congress continued down the impeachment path.

Eleven years later, “seminar callers” abound and call screeners are trained in the art of weeding them out. But the filtering does not always work.

“This is nothing more than the Internet version of Soviet disinformation,” Human Events editor Jed Babbin told me. “ and the little boys from ‘Lord of the Flies’ who run Media Matters want to make it appear that there’s huge dissension within conservative ranks on issues on which we’re most united.”

The left also uses disinformation to inundate the advertisers of conservative-leaning talk shows to intimidate them from financially supporting popular mainstream shows.

Media Matters even offered its services to an autism support group in its attempt to bring down talk-show host Michael Savage. It had nothing to do with Mr. Savage’s underlying offense. Would Media Matters go after Keith Olbermann if he made a tirade against the afflicted? David Brock and company certainly didn’t raise a peep when President Obama made a joke at the expense of the Special Olympics.

So now that the right is vanquished and thoroughly out of power, why doesn’t it learn from its conquerors and employ similar tactics?

The answer is obvious. The right, for the most part, embraces basic Judeo-Christian ideals and would not promote nor defend the propaganda techniques that were perfected in godless communist and socialist regimes. The current political and media environment crafted by supposedly idealistic Mr. Obama resembles Hugo Chavez’s Venezuela more than John F. Kennedy’s America.

The Huffington Post, Daily Kos and other left-leaning sites benefit from the right’s belief that there are rules and decorum in political debate and civic engagement. Of course, every now and then, a curious right-winger will go in and engage in discussion at a left-wing site, but rarely under purely disingenuous and mass coordinated means.

David Brock, John Podesta, am I missing something?

As a prolific consumer of online content, I value nothing more than the sincere expression of opinion that differs from mine. Sometimes I am even moved or swayed from my dogma. But that was not the type of communication that got Mr. Obama elected.

The American right is in a heap of trouble in a media age that doesn’t shun the goons and liars that have poisoned the political process and won the American presidency by breaking the rules of fair play. It is time to fight back, but it won’t be easy. The enemy is willing to do and say anything in order to win.

c Andrew Breitbart is the founder of the news Web site and is co-author of “Hollywood Interrupted: Insanity Chic in Babylon - the Case Against Celebrity.”

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  • Storm 0311

    We all know what true conservatism sounds like and acts like.

    This is simple, don’t beleave them.(when they say splintered, when they say McCain is the one hope.
    When they say we are out of touch with the real America. When they say Obuma has a “Mandate” from the American people.)

    When they label someone as a “Moderate republican”
    We know there a Rino or a coward.

    When they label someone a “far right winger cooke” we know there are simply expouseing Conservative values.

    And Lastly. I’m saying the people calling for blood are setting us up. (I don’t know if there obuma’s trolls trying to make us look bad or just fools to say these things openly)Because it’s not really very conservative to call for open rebellion in bloody terms.

    Calling for blood is what the mob is saying for any business execs and I don’t think thats our way.

  • Pat

    So far, “our way” isn’t working. A “new way” must come about.

  • Hawkerdriver(Pisson the Koran)

    :arrow: Storm,

    I’m not a chickenhawk-i fear it too,BUT..When we are all living the movie Road Warrior or Running Man….there WILL be violence then because we couldn’t stomach violence now.Be ready. :gun:

  • Storm 0311

    Pat I think you know what I mean.

    You know we are getting ready for BAD.
    We are working on “new ways”
    We can try to facilitate GOOD and peaceful resistance.
    We can try to facilite “Good” back to the founders intent.
    {However Bad comes very very easy. We were trained in BAD}(any dam fool can destroy)

  • American Woman

    Look what happened at the McCain/Palin rallys, people showed up by the tons to see Palin and since they werent expecting this they said we were crazy KKK mobs the extremist,racist,far right kooks, out of touch country folk :roll:

  • Pat

    Storm. Things are bad. When they got too bad for the Founding Fathers, they picked up guns. In the war of words, it’s time to use guns.

  • Pat

    It’s our message that counts, not the media’s. Don’t assume you can’t get your message across. To do so is to curl up and die.

  • drillanwr (Constitutional Crusader)

    It’s times like this I DO love having the “key” to the Spam can (pun intended) …

    Trolls and Nazis … all fat, greasy flammable waste products. :twisted:

  • Pat “The Christian”

    “Rebelion to tyrants is obedience to God” Thomas Jefferson’s life motto. I only see three outcomes and the statists giving up is not one of them. 1) They win- we lose game over. 2) We clean their clocks in the next election 3) Armed conflict. Anyone else have a clearer crystal ball?

  • Pat

    And the way to win in the next election sure as hell ain’t gonna be by waging a campaign the way we have, anymore than merely watching as the enemy fires upon us is going to win an armed conflict. We are in a whole new era of political campaigning. We are in the war era of political campaigning, we are out of the debate era of campaigning. Extrapolate from there.

  • Ji

    Those seminar callers are also paid full time wages.
    That is their job.

  • Pat

    That’s what I told Breitbart.


    :arrow: Pat
    I hope you can relate the seriousness of our resolve in your meeting with the ex-POTUS. I fear the apparatus of the left is seeking to quiet the outspoken dissenters. Remember what the soft-core republicans have contributed to the current crisis by their inaction.

  • Storm0311

    I wonder what would our polute itions and media say if we simply started a campaign that has a simple written/verbal message.

    “We have lost faith in you”

  • Steve_Montana

    We must UNITE as ONE VOICE…period… end of story.

    Only 545 people make all the difference… we are millions.

  • Joe Average

    :arrow: Storm,Hawkerdriver…Really, To All:

    I am one that posts a lot of the “time for violent action” post, like this:

    Within the next few weeks, months at the most, EVERY MSM reporter, producer, writer, copyboy NEED to be executed.
    Come on, You Marines and all, DO Your DUTY.

    I am not an “infiltrator”, or KosFuck, or “setting anybody up”. IN fact, I’m so Conservative, I hardly use my left hand.

    Face It. The Ultra-Left/Communists are winning….BECAUSE WE KEEP BACKING DOWN.

    Just look at the Republican Convention Riots, vandalism of Republican offices and even voters cars, and vandalism of Military Recruiting Offices.

    When they do a pro-ACORN, Pro-Illegal Rally, WE SHOULD have DESTROYED THOSE RALLIES with enough bullets that they would never have another one. There should be dead bodies of ACORN and LaRaza members all over the streets.

    I posted this the other day. Our Conservative Motto to TAKE THE COUNTRY BACK should be the Sean Connery line from the “Untouchables”…

    “They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That’s the Chicago way!”

    OBAMA LEARNED THAT FROM ALINKSY. Rember, if Obama (and his ACORNscum) have a chance, Consrvatives and Non-Obama Worshipers would DIE WHERE THEY STAND.



    Hopefully, the fight will not come. But what do you think?

  • in the cross hairs

    One of the first rules of engagement is to know your enemy. Understand and use your head, read Mark Levin’s Liberty and Tyranny.
    First and foremost is the need of a candidate that can articulate the conservative point of view. Next make sure you understand the principles behind the Constitution, the Federalist Papers do a good job of explaining the these principles and the founding fathers point of view. Educate yourselves and your children and friends.

  • Pat

    Excellent. But that campaign has to be ready to answer their responsive question: “Yeah, so what are you going to do about it?”

  • Pat

    Precisely. I couldn’t have put it better myself.

  • Joe Average

    A Follow-Up…..

    When WE are approximately 50% of the Citizens of this Country, but:

    Your vote is trampled by 20% of the citizens who falify another 40% of the votes from “people who don’t exist” by fruad votes of dead and fictious voters.

    Your legal system is now 60%-70% Leftist-Marxist, and most “conservative” causes are thrown out of court.

    Your press/media is 95% Ultra-Left, and there is NO VOICE for you.

    Your Accademia is 95% Ultra-Left/Marxist at best, teaching the destruction of the Constitution.

    Your local government are are almost 95% Ultra-Left/Marxist in the EAST and Major Cities, and approaching 60%-70& of forced Leftism in small Heartland of American towns.

    Your local schools are 95% Ultra-Left/Marxist and care more for Illegal Aliens than American students.

    Islam is being FORCED on us as accept or else. We know within a year, it will be join or else, and the GOVERNMENT is are allowing the destruction of Christianity and Judism.

    If we don’t have a chance to beat the left by judicial/informational/political means, what’s left?

    The answer is use the same way they came to power through the Riots/Vandalism, Initmidation/Violence/Murder, and STEALING BACK the elections by stopping them from fraud voting.

    We have already had the 21st Century version of The Boston Massacre, Concord, and Lexington with the Election Fraud, the Bailout, and Stimulus……Our Country need US.

    This is what the Declaration of Independence was all about!!!

  • Roland

    :arrow: Drill,

    It might be fun if you let one in now and again:


    Cat & Mouse

    etc. :twisted: :lol:

  • Support your local Jihadi Killer

    Want to defeat the Progressives, liberals, and Dems? Use the same tactics against them that they apply to us. Read Saul Alinsky’s book , “Rules for Radicals” It will tell you how. This IS Obama’s playbook.

    How a community organizer became President:

    Obama and the Marxist Progressive Liberal Manifesto:

    “Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.”

    “A Marxist begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the exploitation of the proletariat by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order of the dictatorship of the proletariat, and finally the last stage — the political paradise of communism.” p.10 Rules for Radicals.

    “Radicals must be resilient, adaptable to shifting political circumstances, and sensitive enough to the process of action and reaction to avoid being trapped by their own tactics and forced to travel a road not of their choosing.” p.6

    “An organizer working in and for an open society is in an ideological dilemma to begin with, he does not have a fixed truth — truth to him is relative and changing; everything to him is relative and changing…. To the extent that he is free from the shackles of dogma, he can respond to the realities of the widely different situations….” pp.10-11

    “The end is what you want, the means is how you get it. Whenever we think about social change, the question of means and ends arises. The man of action views the issue of means and ends in pragmatic and strategic terms. He has no other problem; he thinks only of his actual resources and the possibilities of various choices of action. He asks of ends only whether they are achievable and worth the cost; of means, only whether they will work. … The real arena is corrupt and bloody.” p.24

    “The means-and-ends moralists, constantly obsessed with the ethics of the means used by the Have-Nots against the Haves, should search themselves as to their real political position. In fact, they are passive — but real — allies of the Haves…. The most unethical of all means is the non-use of any means… The standards of judgment must be rooted in the whys and wherefores of life as it is lived, the world as it is, not our wished-for fantasy of the world as it should be….” pp.25-26

    “The third rule of ethics of means and ends is that in war the end justifies almost any means….” p.29

    “The seventh rule… is that generally success or failure is a mighty determinant of ethics….” p.34

    “The tenth rule… is you do what you can with what you have and clothe it with moral garments…. It involves sifting the multiple factors which combine in creating the circumstances at any given time… Who, and how many will support the action?… If weapons are needed, then are appropriate d weapons available? Availability of means determines whether you will be underground or above ground; whether you will move quickly or slowly…” p.36

    “To the organizer, imagination… is the dynamism that starts and sustains him in his whole life of action as an organizer. It ignites and feeds the force that drives him to organize for change….

    “The organizer knows that the real action is in the reaction of the opposition. To realistically appraise and anticipate the probable reactions of the enemy, he must be able to identify with them, too, in his imagination, and foresee their reactions to his actions….

    “The organizers searching with a free and open mind void of certainty, hating dogma, finds laughter not just a way to maintain his sanity but also a key to understanding life.”pp.74-75

    “…the organizer must be able to split himself into two parts — one part in the arena of action where he polarizes the issue to 100 to nothing, and helps to lead his forces into conflict, while the other part knows that when the time comes for negotiations that it really is only a 10 percent difference.” p.78

    “…the organizer is constantly creating new out of the old. He knows that all new ideas arise from conflict; [See Dialectic Process] that every time man as had a new idea it has been a challenge to the sacred ideas of the past and the present and inevitably a conflict has raged.” p.79

    “And so the guided questioning goes on without anyone losing face or being left out of the decision-making. Every weakness of every proposed tactic is probed by questions…. Is this manipulation? Certainly….” p.88

    “One of the factors that changes what you can and can’t communicate is relationships. There as sensitive areas that one does not touch until there is a strong personal relationship based on common involvements. Otherwise the other party turns off and literally does not hear….

    “Conversely, if you have a good relationship, he is very receptive…. For example, I have always believed that birth control and abortion are personal rights to be exercised by the individual. If, in my early days when I organized… neighborhood in Chicago, which was 95 per cent Roman Catholic, I had tried to communicate this, even through the experience of the residents, whose economic plight was aggravated by large families, that would have been the end of my relationship with the community. That instant I would have been stamped as an enemy of the church and all communication would have ceased.

    “Some years later, after establishing solid relationships, I was free to talk about anything…. By then the argument was no longer limited to such questions as, ‘How much longer do you think the Catholic Church can hang on to this archaic notion and still survive?’ …the subject and nature of the discussion would have been unthinkable without that solid relationship.” pp.93-94

    “From the moment the organizer enters a community he lives, dreams… only one thing and that is to build the mass power base of what he calls the army. Until he has developed that mass power base, he confronts no major issues…. Until he has those means and power instruments, his ‘tactics’ are very different from power tactics. Therefore, every move revolves around one central point: how many recruits will this bring into the organization, whether by means of local organizations, churches, service groups, labor Unions, corner gangs, or as individuals.”

    “Change comes from power, and power comes from organization.” p.113

    “The first step in community organization is community disorganization. The disruption of the present organization is the first step toward community organization. Present arrangements must be disorganized if they are to be displace by new patterns…. All change means disorganization of the old and organization of the new.” p.116

    “An organizer must stir up dissatisfaction and discontent… He must create a mechanism that can drain off the underlying guilt for having accepted the previous situation for so long a time. Out of this mechanism, a new community organization arises….
    “The job then is getting the people to move, to act, to participate; in short, to develop and harness the necessary power to effectively conflict with the prevailing patterns and change them. When those prominent in the status quo turn and label you an ‘agitator’ they are completely correct, for that is, in one word, your function—to agitate to the point of conflict.” p.117

    “Process tells us how. Purpose tells us why. But in reality, it is academic to draw a line between them, they are part of a continuum…. Process is really purpose.” p.122

    “Tactics are those conscious deliberate acts by which human beings live with each other and deal with the world around them. … Here our concern is with the tactic of taking; how the Have-Nots can take power away from the Haves.” p.126

    Always remember the first rule of power tactics (pps.127-134):

    1. “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.”

    2. “Never go outside the expertise of your people. When an action or tactic is outside the experience of the people, the result is confusion, fear and retreat…. [and] the collapse of communication.

    3. “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy. Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)

    4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.”

    5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.”

    6. “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.”

    7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Man can sustain militant interest in any issue for only a limited time….”

    8. “Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose.”

    9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.”

    10. “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.”

    11. “If you push a negative hard and deep enough, it will break through into its counterside… every positive has its negative.”

    12. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.”

    13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. In conflict tactics there are certain rules that [should be regarded] as universalities. One is that the opposition must be singled out as the target and ‘frozen.’…

    “…any target can always say, ‘Why do you center on me when there are others to blame as well?’ When your ‘freeze the target,’ you disregard these [rational but distracting] arguments…. Then, as you zero in and freeze your target and carry out your attack, all the ‘others’ come out of the woodwork very soon. They become visible by their support of the target…’

    “One acts decisively only in the conviction that all the angels are on one side and all the devils on the other.” (pps.127-134)

  • drillanwr (Constitutional Crusader)

    Roland -

    Never sure who all here has had their immunization shots.

    Besides, you let one in and they shit all over the furniture.

  • TerryTate

    When I hear a response like that Pat, I can’t help but hear this song in my head….

    Now, maybe that is a bad first response on my part, but it does make me wonder if that isn’t the intent that they have in mind to take this country down.

    If we play directly into their hands by reacting violently, then it is only a simple matter for them to demonize us as terrorists.

    Somehow, we must prevail, before they have the opportunity to capitalize upon their actions. They keep pushing us for a reason, and I doubt if it is so that they can simply roll over, or give in.

    There is more to their strategy than simply being complete assholes.

  • Joe Average

    Your advice is wonderful!

    From the Tactics…

    4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.”

    “One acts decisively only in the conviction that all the angels are on one side and all the devils on the other.” (pps.127-134)

    We believe in Law, Ethics, Goodness of Man, Principles….The Marxists hate these, they use these against us.

    They know we are respect the courts, fear God, and are afraid of shame and ridicule of our fellow man……

    To the Marxist, these are advantages over us through THEIR threats that we will have bad publicity, or be seen as having inconsistancies and contradictions in our views.

  • Storm 0311

    One of the things I see is because I live in fly over country.

    I was running a booth at a gun show in Watertown S.D. a while back and the place was packed like never before.

    People were scared shitless and mad as hell.

    People were asking intellegent questions about reloading and weapons maintenance. And talking quietly talking, like someone might be listening.
    A low angry hum like a bunch of pissed off bees in a hive ready to come out.

    The beating heart of the country is poised in a huge way. Some of the toughest familys I know (children of the 30′s and WW 2 people) Vets and familys of service men and women. ) are watching and waiting and talking.

    Things are getting rolling in a stubborn pissed off manner.
    When people are pissed at too much government in the communist mecca of Mn.were I have to travel in the week you know somethings up.

    Our local tea party is on the 15th of April in Sioux Falls, it starts…..

  • Nanny

    :arrow: To All Posters

    How do we overcome the bias in the MSM? Every time a conservative is on a program they seem to get blind sided by the liberal news person or just talked over or not allowed to finish their point. Just look at what is happening right now with the tea parties. Not one word of it in the MSM - Why? They are the cheerleaders for the Obama-bots and the liberal kooks and if we don’t get a conservative message out there to counter this shit effectively - the middle of the roaders who voted for Obama but now have buyers remorse don’t hear that their is a voice or reason out there.

    Also, one of the biggest problems today is the 99% liberal education system in this country. Obama won this election with a big 18-24 yr. old voting base - college students. They have all been indoctrinated with this 60′s hippie turned educator bull shit. Parents have no say in it anymore because it starts in pre-school and doesn’t end until they get the college degree. It is shameful! And 99% of college students are very tuned in to the electronic world so the libs took advantage of that avenue to get their point of views to them. Conservative have a lot of work to do in this area also.

    I thought Mike Steel would be great as head of the RNC to get the ball rolling but I am very saddened by his disappointing comments. Sounds more like John McCain and I have no use for him. I voted for Sarah Palin not McCain. We have no captain for this rudderless ship. I really do not see one person on the horizon as a conservative leader I can agree with 100%.

  • Pat

    Terry, we’ve discussed this a hundred times. When your concern is that they will “demonize” us as terrorist, you have already admitted defeat in your ability to project your message, at the hands of the MSM. This is surrendering without a fight. This is cowering, in cowardly fashion, at the feet of the MSM. And yes, they expect us to do something. But doing something with collateral actions they don’t expect, is a whole other ball of wax. It’s called employing the element of surprise. And doing nothing, because we’re afraid to, because we fear their planned reprisal, is a classic Sun Tszu tactic of getting you to surrender without a fight. Nowadays, we call it psyops.

    I’m all for winning on message not force, if possible. But you’ve got no right to stand up and argue for delivering a message, if you don’t have the balls to deliver the only kind that will work: an honest one, not one watered down to the point of being nearly indistinguishable from the Left’s message (because you feel you must serve a falselya politically correct master). The Left is going to do nothing but crush you, no matter how politically correct you are. Stop trying to make friends of the Jihadis, Obama. It ain’t gonna happen. And you ain’t gonna win any elelction as a conservative posing as a white Barack Obama or a Bill Clinton, or a MIchael Steele, whose blackness ain’t gonna overcome his Republicanness. That worked just swell for Condi Rice - not. STOP PLAYINIG BY THEIR RULES. THEIR RULES HAVE CUT YOUR BALLS OFF, AND PEOPLE AREN’T MUCH INTERESTED IN VOTING FOR EUNUCHS.

    Nor poseurs.

  • Pat

    Now this is what I’m taking about, in part. And so is fucking Breitbart, hardly a “radical”.

  • Pat

    I have answers to this question. Many others here do, as well. But we ain’t publishing them here.

    The short, safe, vague, slightly metaphorical answer: seize control of their cameras, mikes and keyboards.

  • Joe Average

    :arrow: PAT

    I have hate in my heart for the democrats. Even though I am a Christian, I have HATE for all the years of what I have seen in our country by them. I have lots of reasons.

    I really don’t care what you think of me on this site.

    I was listening to Glenn Beck talk about family and Friends,his Faith, and his Church. My Church, My family, my FAITH are valuable to me. So are sites like “I AM SECOND”.

    Pat, I love this site for your BOLDNESS and INTEGRITY.

    I am struggling with this and looking for an answer.

    Just saw “Left Behind”-Part I and Part 2. What are we really supposed to do? How are we really supposed to handle an Obama government?

    How do we keep the Country and the Constitution, and be Faithful at the same time? I know that Founding Fathers were men of faith, but struggling with all.

    I feel lost in that……

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  • Nanny

    :arrow: Pat

    I truly appreciate this site because we are all like minds and want nothing but the best for our country but it does get to me once in a while. I can’t believe how many people are so mesmerized by this president and his policies. I am 53 yrs. old and grew up respecting my country, flag and freedom. This is just a plain old take over by Socialist/Marxists. Like I said in an earlier post - can’t wait till I get my new handgun and I will be locked and loaded. Obama just fired the CEO of GM and I am in Michigan so it looks like Michigan will be the first for the take over. Even though I will be armed I might be the only one ready to shoot because everyone here is a liberal - I am out gunned!

  • Vanessa

    Thats why I voted for Mccain. I was voting for Palin, She will be very good for America as the President.

  • Pat

    :arrow: Joe

    I have an unsurpassed hate in my heart for them as well. It doesn’t eat me alive, it invigorates. Hate is good. It’s all about letting it know who’s boss. If you can do that, hate is a proud companion, a clear head and a deadly weapon. All three should always be kept healthy and readily available.

    Get Active.

  • Pat

    Off topic, BUT: Mark Steyn (“America Alone”) is coming on for a 2-hour “Jihadi Killer Hour”.

  • Chuck O

    If the lefties act like its a bloodsport then I do the same. When they throw insults and call names, ignore it. When they try to change the subject, take control and bring it back to the topic at hand. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. Use their talking points against them. When beaten in debate, they will fall silent.

  • tahDeetz

    It may not be the subject for an open discussion, but how do we best turn the statists’ ideals against them as they utilize our rulebook against us?

    As they use our own morals against us, how can we successfully turn that particular table?

    There has to be methods, tactics, rules for recognizing, responding, blunting then defeating their Hegelian methods.

    Our methods should be prioritized based on the effectiveness of the tactic they employ.

    One avenue I have begun to flesh out is to reacquire the inherit ‘coolness’ of the outsider.

    Paint the statist as just that, a pure statist that is absolutely antithetical to pure American libertarian ideals.

    Really now, how many Hell’s Angels would vote for his Barrackness?

    The biker counter-culture has it’s roots in WW2 and that is something we can tap into because the leftist so despises the internal combustion engine, the very life’s-blood of severe wunderlust.

    We are now the counter-culture and must embrace that label in order to attract those that have that gut feeling, but don’t fully recognize the abortion that is the modern day left.

    The disaffected ‘yoots’ of today are ripe for ideas to live by.

    Their gripes and disdain are a natural outgrowths of ridiculous government schooling that only satiates the truly ignorant.

    This internal strife can be successfully redirected to accomplish the righteous goals of freedom and liberty.

    Properly harnessing that quiet rage in the highschools’ corner can be vital to a movement.

    3% can be legion.

    We are all Brothers for Liberty because everyones’ freedom is equally threatened.

    Rock&Roll can’t be Commie. Commie kills Punk.

    Thanks for the venue and the opportunity to freely think and lend my burning ideas on re-defeating this neo-Bolshevik horde.

    In a world of compromise, PD does not.

    btw. . . If my commentary gets to detailed in revealing a possible strategy, by all means, remove.

    Thx Again

  • Fred

    I truly want nothing to do with the Left’s tactics. I’m a former Leftist (from many years ago, left the Left in ’87)and I participated very little in the activist branch of the Marxist movement. I was more of a bookish academic type on a journey that eventually brought me to a break with Marxism. Along the way I noted the ethics of expediency of those people, and I was repulsed by it. They didn’t much like me either, because I remained a Catholic instead of becoming an atheist. Plus, they are liars. I was ordered by activist types to NEVER call myself a Marxist. They told me to call myself a “progressive.” That kind of dishonesty disgusted me, and I flipped them the bird. They didn’t like my independence from groupthink.

    I’m not about to go and use the same tactics against them. I intend to do my part, sticking to solid argumentation based on fact and logic. I hope we can turn things around, starting in 2010 and going further in 2012. If we do not pull it out, we may be heading for rebellion/civil war. But before we get to that tipping point, let’s fight hard to win the political fight. If it gets to a shooting war, this old geezer will do his part; I won’t hesitate to shoot Leftists if I have to. I will not see my kids and grandkids become slaves of the State.

  • Sully

    How does having an election stolen through manufactured crises and the concerted efforts of a new ruling class of “neo-Bolsheviks” who financed that effort selling short our economy make Real America a “counter culture”?